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  • Originally posted by Max
    sure... all he got are stamp sized! Maybe it's cause of that we never see anything useful... apart jokes about them.

    I'm reconsidering Dr. Best ultimate single chip two antennas... as more realistic LRL!

    Kind regards,
    Max
    Hi Max,
    Be careful when using the Dr. Best single chip two antenna LRL. It is very powerful.
    Be sure to take precautions shown above from our team's secret bunker experiments so you don't turn into a gold statue.

    Best wishes,
    J_P

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    • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
      Hi Max,
      Be careful when using the Dr. Best single chip two antenna LRL. It is very powerful.
      Be sure to take precautions shown above from our team's secret bunker experiments so you don't turn into a gold statue.

      Best wishes,
      J_P
      I just hope if I'll turn into a gold statue don't be so ugly and disturbing like it...

      Kind regards,
      Max

      "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
      But we dont need a reason
      "

      someone said...

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      • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
        Dell Omnitron is still in business judging from their web page and Dell's claim of a 3-month backlog. Does this mean Omnitron porducts work?

        Best wishes,
        J_P
        I like your humor.

        Being in business(?) for years and able to hawk something is probably not the only defining criteria of a "viable technology". Further, I also feel it is an insult to real technology to hint that perhaps what Dell is selling is even related to "a technology".

        But I'm glad you mentioned his products, because they (or something similar) have been around since about the late 60s or early 70s. They were a scam then and today they are still a scam. (BTW, Dell is not the only purveyor of such items dating back that far. I could list them all but it's pointless...)

        Basically, when pure snake oil can be marketed, and sold to a select number of technically-challenged individuals, it is really not a measure of the merits (or lack of merits) of the product itself; rather it is a clear indication that our US Justice system contains "holes" and is not a perfect system. (....unfortunately)

        Perhaps in the future, the State AGs (or FTC) will have enough time to investigate such items; but for now they have bigger fish to fry.

        Look at the bright side... Quadro Tracker is no longer in business and I believe Sniffex is down for the count.

        (Incidentally, if Dell makes a response here he is going to want to tell everyone that he has a clean bill of health with the BBB of Florida and zero customer complaints. When judging his retort, one should also remember that he claims his contraptions were utilized in the location of Noah's Ark. You are free to make your own decisions regarding his claims...)

        The Wallet-Miner's Creed
        Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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        • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
          Yes, in my previous research concerning these published circuits, I have come across similar schematics. My experience has been that just because schematics like this were published, does not by default make them a lucrative method to use; especially today.

          Common sense tells me that if these circuits were around in 1926, and IF they were actually that useful in doing what is claimed, than certainly the theory of operation along with the technology would not have died, but would have been advanced along with all the other electronic and technical devices that evolved in a similar nature. By that I mean we would see these advanced devices in use today. (Actually, the modern-day MDs evolved, probably from something similar to what you posted.)

          For instance, say an article was published in the 1900s showing how to talk over a length of two wires utilizing a carbon microphone and a headset consisting of a magnetic transducer. Further assume this device was called the Electromagnetic Telephone. Now over 100 years later, the device must have had some actual merit, because the world literally revolves around the telephone for instant communication. Plus, technology has advanced so that I can carry a telephone in my shirt pocket.

          Now let's say someone else published an article in the 1900s extolling the virtues of exposing the human body to certain frequencies and claiming that each malady of the human body would respond to a particular frequency and would be eradicated by the exposure from his frequency device. Let's call this fellow Dr. Fife. Today, over 100 years later, the idea, the device and indeed all traces of the procedure are gone. The idea was bogus; without merit or provable results. In fact, people attempting to treat other people with such devices have been sued and removed from business.

          I hope you can understand the analogy I am trying to convey here... and why I am doing it.
          The same circuit with tubes doesn't was used, only the principle. If you see the MD of 1921, seems a pulse induction via electromechanical vibrator, pulse induction born many years later, but seems ideas was "rediscovered" used modern words, more "bombastic", according to "science" words, for to give credibility... Seems that toward this work of the afficionated (like the MD of 1921) attention don't be payed for the "scientific cimmunity", but the principle is similar to PI.

          Hope you can understand what I trying to said... maybe my English doesn't help me...

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          • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
            The same circuit with tubes doesn't was used, only the principle. If you see the MD of 1921, seems a pulse induction via electromechanical vibrator, pulse induction born many years later, but seems ideas was "rediscovered" used modern words, more "bombastic", according to "science" words, for to give credibility... Seems that toward this work of the afficionated (like the MD of 1921) attention don't be payed for the "scientific cimmunity", but the principle is similar to PI.

            Hope you can understand what I trying to said... maybe my English doesn't help me...
            Perhaps in some "fringe" areas the scientific community tends to shy away from or ignore certain early discoveries and concepts. However, I believe that is simply a natural process of elimination that takes place as one concept (or theory) is replaced by a better or more efficient one.

            One thing I think we can be very certain of, and is a testament to the technology we have in this world today.... That is, if a theory or scientific discovery has real merit; it will not be ignored, rather it will be recognized, developed and utilized to the fullest. We aren't where we are today, by ignoring viable concepts and real technology.

            Those concepts and theories which die out and are not heard about again, do so for good reason; generally because they were based on faulty reasoning and wrong assumptions. Others were just plain "pie in the sky" in the first place, and had no chance of being accepted.

            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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            • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
              Perhaps in some "fringe" areas the scientific community tends to shy away from or ignore certain early discoveries and concepts. However, I believe that is simply a natural process of elimination that takes place as one concept (or theory) is replaced by a better or more efficient one.

              One thing I think we can be very certain of, and is a testament to the technology we have in this world today.... That is, if a theory or scientific discovery has real merit; it will not be ignored, rather it will be recognized, developed and utilized to the fullest. We aren't where we are today, by ignoring viable concepts and real technology.

              Those concepts and theories which die out and are not heard about again, do so for good reason; generally because they were based on faulty reasoning and wrong assumptions. Others were just plain "pie in the sky" in the first place, and had no chance of being accepted.
              Don't be fooled by that old magazine cover...

              I know what's inside the famous double coil MD... and it's not PI as he claims.

              But he probably is just making a mistake... he think it's related to PI and it isn't... I told him already... now I'm on his ignore list and so he can't see my posts... god for me , god for him...

              It's an IB electric metal detector: no electronics inside it , just electric stuff... and electromechanical... the vibrator he wrote is not some oscillating Palo Alto, but an electromechanical device easy to find in 20's cause used in early cars... and similar things.

              Kind regards,
              Max

              "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
              But we dont need a reason
              "

              someone said...

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              • Originally posted by Esteban
                The same circuit with tubes doesn't was used, only the principle. If you see the MD of 1921, seems a pulse induction via electromechanical vibrator, pulse induction born many years later, but seems ideas was "rediscovered" used modern words, more "bombastic", according to "science" words, for to give credibility... Seems that toward this work of the afficionated (like the MD of 1921) attention don't be payed for the "scientific cimmunity", but the principle is similar to PI.

                Hope you can understand what I trying to said... maybe my English doesn't help me...
                Hi Esteban,
                The articles you read from old magazines were written to describe projects built by experimenters. These projects were not standard technology at the time, only some experiments that a few people made. This is the same as the kind of experiments that Alonso and you made. Not standard technology... only experimental stuff. The difference is you do not show your experiments and schematics in magazines like other experimenters did. Maybe this is the reason many readers don.t believe.

                It always helps when writing in your native language, but you seem to be less handicapped than others whose multi-language skills are not as well developed. We see the modern words you posted like "according to science" or "backed up by science" posted in this forum by the esteemed Dr. hung in many of his posts. And you are also correct when using the modern word "bombastic". This word often comes to mind while reading Dr. hung's posts that are not factual, and contain extraordinary claims that he is not prepared to answer challenges to.

                I suppose if extraordinary claims that are said to be "backed up by science" could be actually shown to be factual, {such as showing the reference to the science proof and scientists that are backing it up), then extraordinary claims would not seem so much like bombastic BS.

                best wishes,
                J_P

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                • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  Hi Esteban,
                  The articles you read from old magazines were written to describe projects built by experimenters. These projects were not standard technology at the time, only some experiments that a few people made. This is the same as the kind of experiments that Alonso and you made. Not standard technology... only experimental stuff. The difference is you do not show your experiments and schematics in magazines like other experimenters did. Maybe this is the reason many readers don.t believe.

                  It always helps when writing in your native language, but you seem to be less handicapped than others whose multi-language skills are not as well developed. We see the modern words you posted like "according to science" or "backed up by science" posted in this forum by the esteemed Dr. hung in many of his posts. And you are also correct when using the modern word "bombastic". This word often comes to mind while reading Dr. hung's posts that are not factual, and contain extraordinary claims that he is not prepared to answer challenges to.

                  I suppose if extraordinary claims that are said to be "backed up by science" could be actually shown to be factual, {such as showing the reference to the science proof and scientists that are backing it up), then extraordinary claims would not seem so much like bombastic BS.

                  best wishes,
                  J_P
                  The silly stuff is that's not PI !

                  But he still think so...

                  what to say... let him think what he want...

                  Kind regards,
                  Max

                  "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                  But we dont need a reason
                  "

                  someone said...

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                  • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                    Perhaps in some "fringe" areas the scientific community tends to shy away from or ignore certain early discoveries and concepts. However, I believe that is simply a natural process of elimination that takes place as one concept (or theory) is replaced by a better or more efficient one.

                    One thing I think we can be very certain of, and is a testament to the technology we have in this world today.... That is, if a theory or scientific discovery has real merit; it will not be ignored, rather it will be recognized, developed and utilized to the fullest. We aren't where we are today, by ignoring viable concepts and real technology.

                    Those concepts and theories which die out and are not heard about again, do so for good reason; generally because they were based on faulty reasoning and wrong assumptions. Others were just plain "pie in the sky" in the first place, and had no chance of being accepted.
                    Most of the time because most of these persons aren't doctors or recognized autorithies in the matter...

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                    • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                      Hi Esteban,
                      The articles you read from old magazines were written to describe projects built by experimenters. These projects were not standard technology at the time, only some experiments that a few people made. This is the same as the kind of experiments that Alonso and you made. Not standard technology... only experimental stuff. The difference is you do not show your experiments and schematics in magazines like other experimenters did. Maybe this is the reason many readers don.t believe.

                      It always helps when writing in your native language, but you seem to be less handicapped than others whose multi-language skills are not as well developed. We see the modern words you posted like "according to science" or "backed up by science" posted in this forum by the esteemed Dr. hung in many of his posts. And you are also correct when using the modern word "bombastic". This word often comes to mind while reading Dr. hung's posts that are not factual, and contain extraordinary claims that he is not prepared to answer challenges to.

                      I suppose if extraordinary claims that are said to be "backed up by science" could be actually shown to be factual, {such as showing the reference to the science proof and scientists that are backing it up), then extraordinary claims would not seem so much like bombastic BS.

                      best wishes,
                      J_P
                      Of course, I think that to experiment is the first step. And, of course, the experimenters just can describes that what happens since his "poor perspective", no relevant for the "scientific community". From the first moment they are condemned by the "wise"...

                      Regards

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                      • Originally posted by Esteban
                        Of course, I think that to experiment is the first step. And, of course, the experimenters just can describes that what happens since his "poor perspective", no relevant for the "scientific community". From the first moment they are condemned by the "wise"...

                        Regards
                        Hi Esteban,
                        The early experimenters were not condemned. They did not hide their experiments in secret bunkers, they published them in hobby magazines. Other experimenters continued to modify these designs, and eventually they were improved to the point of being used as a standard technology. This happened to the experiments that you posted from old magazines. We can see this because of modern metal detectors were first experimented with before 1900, and went through many design changes before reaching the sophistication we see today. Not even Alonso could make improvements if he did not see these published articles for his beginning point.

                        But what would have happened if those same experimenters never published their work? Suppose they hid their secrets so nobody would steal their idea? Then their idea would die when they died. There would be no improvements from others with diverse ideas and new methods to add to the original experiments and make the evolutionary improvements.

                        I see the "secret technology" "free energy" websites insisting energy from a vacuum is there for free, This is all very secret, and no usable demonstrations are available. Also no free energy is available for use to power cities as a standard technology. I see posts in Geotech about a secret anti-corrosion substance produced by gold DNA, but the person who posted refuses to say where this technology was discovered, or what science supports it. We can see none of this secret gold DNA produced substance is available to protect other metals as a standard technology either. It seems to me that most secret technology which is never explained or demonstrated to be factual or put into practical use is doomed to oblivion.

                        But maybe I'm wrong about that. You think so? Ok, then show me some examples. I would like to see.

                        Best wishes,
                        J_P

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                        • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                          Hi Esteban,
                          The early experimenters were not condemned. They did not hide their experiments in secret bunkers, they published them in hobby magazines. Other experimenters continued to modify these designs, and eventually they were improved to the point of being used as a standard technology. This happened to the experiments that you posted from old magazines. We can see this because of modern metal detectors were first experimented with before 1900, and went through many design changes before reaching the sophistication we see today. Not even Alonso could make improvements if he did not see these published articles for his beginning point.

                          But what would have happened if those same experimenters never published their work? Suppose they hid their secrets so nobody would steal their idea? Then their idea would die when they died. There would be no improvements from others with diverse ideas and new methods to add to the original experiments and make the evolutionary improvements.

                          I see the "secret technology" "free energy" websites insisting energy from a vacuum is there for free, This is all very secret, and no usable demonstrations are available. Also no free energy is available for use to power cities as a standard technology. I see posts in Geotech about a secret anti-corrosion substance produced by gold DNA, but the person who posted refuses to say where this technology was discovered, or what science supports it. We can see none of this secret gold DNA produced substance is available to protect other metals as a standard technology either. It seems to me that most secret technology which is never explained or demonstrated to be factual or put into practical use is doomed to oblivion.

                          But maybe I'm wrong about that. You think so? Ok, then show me some examples. I would like to see.

                          Best wishes,
                          J_P
                          Spot on the mark!

                          The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                          Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                          • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                            Hi Esteban,
                            The early experimenters were not condemned. They did not hide their experiments in secret bunkers, they published them in hobby magazines. Other experimenters continued to modify these designs, and eventually they were improved to the point of being used as a standard technology. This happened to the experiments that you posted from old magazines. We can see this because of modern metal detectors were first experimented with before 1900, and went through many design changes before reaching the sophistication we see today. Not even Alonso could make improvements if he did not see these published articles for his beginning point.

                            But what would have happened if those same experimenters never published their work? Suppose they hid their secrets so nobody would steal their idea? Then their idea would die when they died. There would be no improvements from others with diverse ideas and new methods to add to the original experiments and make the evolutionary improvements.

                            I see the "secret technology" "free energy" websites insisting energy from a vacuum is there for free, This is all very secret, and no usable demonstrations are available. Also no free energy is available for use to power cities as a standard technology. I see posts in Geotech about a secret anti-corrosion substance produced by gold DNA, but the person who posted refuses to say where this technology was discovered, or what science supports it. We can see none of this secret gold DNA produced substance is available to protect other metals as a standard technology either. It seems to me that most secret technology which is never explained or demonstrated to be factual or put into practical use is doomed to oblivion.

                            But maybe I'm wrong about that. You think so? Ok, then show me some examples. I would like to see.

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P
                            Simple, when such experiments was made by hobbyist, his name and experiments are buried... Only a doctor in Physics emerges! Alonso told a friend this: "If I ventilate the secret, other will to obtain the merit". And he know this, because you must to be doctor or master, and convert it in formulas (but I think we can't, at first sight, due conditions as mineralization and excess of wet in air, wet in air dispersse much the phenomenon, except when very light rain, because micro-drops acts as a "bridge" –this I have observed!!!–).

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                            • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                              Spot on the mark!
                              I'm not very triumphalist like you!

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                              • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                                Simple, when such experiments was made by hobbyist, his name and experiments are buried... Only a doctor in Physics emerges! Alonso told a friend this: "If I ventilate the secret, other will to obtain the merit". And he know this, because you must to be doctor or master, and convert it in formulas (but I think we can't, at first sight, due conditions as mineralization and excess of wet in air, wet in air dispersse much the phenomenon, except when very light rain, because micro-drops acts as a "bridge" –this I have observed!!!–).
                                Esteban,
                                There is plenty of inventors that where made famous by their discoveries-and they were not Doctors...
                                But yes , you need a scientifical explanation for your discovery.I guess this is why you´re here, but you have dificulties in dosing what you want to give for what you want to know
                                Regards,
                                Fred.

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