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  • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
    Hi hung,
    I can't read the Mineoro page because my anti-virus alert will not let me load their page. But I saved a graphic of their idea for gold ions moving up in the air 7.2 feet above a buried treasure before my previous installation of Windows crashed. So I know they showed 7.2 feet in the air.

    But they did not talk about how blowing wind can cause electrons to vanish and cause my favorite radio station to be lost. Is this your idea?
    I know you understand a lot about radio wave transmission. I learned from you the principle of the RangerTell for find treasure with an RF carrier:
    "This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned".

    Can you explain the dynamics of rising gold ions 7.2 feet in the air above buried gold for me?

    Best wishes,
    J_P
    As Esteban said:

    Damásio and Alonso comprobe the verticality (column) over a chair and (because the "phenomenon" going more above) over a stairs. This comprobation they made 25 years ago, maybe before technology of today that uses the ions for to find metal into Earth.

    Earth has gone into some changes in 25 years. Also after 2004 Tsunami.
    It could still be at 7 feet, taller or shorter. Even frequency could now present some slight variation, but the aproach and method in which it manifests will always be the same.


    Also, don't try to be silly on me on subjects you complete ignore.
    Perpetrating your infant jokes and irony here will not help you...
    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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    • Originally posted by hung View Post
      How naive...

      It this was so, every time wind would blow, also electrons would vanish and your favorite radio station 'would be lost' for sometime.
      Do you loose that signal?

      You need to read Mineoro's explanation 4 times more. This time memorize the sentences and use glasses. If this was a school test, you would grade F...
      One more post you would better had kept for yourself
      DR Hung cannot make difference between ions and electromagnetic field?
      One more for the archives...
      And i suppose we should read mineoros explanations 4 more times because there is 4 new trojans in their page...

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      • Originally posted by J_Player
        I learned from you the principle of the RangerTell for find treasure with an RF carrier:
        "This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned".

        Can you explain the dynamics of rising gold ions 7.2 feet in the air above buried gold for me?


        Originally posted by hung:
        Earth has gone into some changes in 25 years. Also after 2004 Tsunami.
        It could still be at 7 feet, taller or shorter. Even frequency could now present some slight variation, but the aproach and method in which it manifests will always be the same.

        Also, don't try to be silly on me on subjects you complete ignore.
        Perpetrating your infant jokes and irony here will not help you...
        Hi Dr. hung,
        There is nothing silly about my questions, I am dead serious.
        I cannot be ignorant about the subject because I quoted what you taught us in this forum about the RangerTell shooting signal lines.
        Why are you calling it silly?

        But you have not answered my question. You talked about how some natural disasters could present some "slight variation" in the past 25 years, but the aproach and method in which it manifests will always be the same.

        So where is your explanation of how gold ions are found at 7.2 feet (with slight variations) in the air above buried gold?

        Best wishes,
        J_P

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        • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
          The answer is simple. What they detected was not ions, but a different a secondary effect from the buried metal. It is not possible for a cloud of ions to remain stationary in the air whether above something buried or not. As soon as a small breeze blows, the ions will blow away with the wind too. But Gold ions do not exist in a stationary location in the air. They exist in extremely small trace amounts that are scattered all over the air, and cannot be measured with any normal instruments. Special measuring methods must be used to find any gold in the air. And most of it is particulate, not ions. Similar to the trace amount of gold that is found in sea water. It has only been measured by special instruments because it is in such rare trace amounts.

          Now, look at the signal that LRL believers are reporting. The "phenomenon" is strong... can burn transistors. Was measured on stairs...
          Ions in the open air cannot burn transistors in a metal detector. But a strong enough electric field or magnetic field at a coil could do that. Maybe a secondary effect could cause a response to a detector at those locations, But I think not ions in the air. This is also not hard to prove. First, What proof do Damásio and Alonso have that what they were measuring is ions? Did they prove it they found a column of ions up to 7.2 feet? Or did they prove they recorded some response up to 7.2 feet? What method did they use to identify the response they recorded was caused by ions located in the air? Is it possible they simply assumed the signal was caused by the ions, but did not take an ion sample to prove it? Are you aware that scientists have already proved that the small trace of metal ions in the soil become neutralized before they reach the surface of the ground? Only Mineoro is claiming a concentration of gold ions are remaining in the air, but they have never shown proof using a standard test instrument to prove it.

          This is simple to prove... Go to the location where the strong signal is located in the air 7.2 feet above the ground and take the air sample through a drift tube to measure actual ions. This instrument will not respond to other signals that Alonso's machine sees, only ions. You will quickly find that there are no measurable gold ions or other metal ions there other than a few trace random ones that may blow by. You will see the drift tube is very accurate for finding a concentration of gold ions. You will also find it does not report anything more than small amounts of scattered trace ions which are the same in open air above the buried metal as away from it.

          This is easy to prove.. why not try?

          Best wishes,
          J_P
          Of course... secondary effect, and this I called "phenomenon", I think is electrical/magnetic... Here also RF is affected... this mean the "phenomenon" can be detectable via RF.

          The feet don't know, but "medition" was made with pistol. But as pistol catch the secondary effect is possible that 7.2 feet can be exceeded easily.

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          • Originally posted by Esteban
            Of course... secondary effect, and this I called "phenomenon", I think is electrical/magnetic... Here also RF is affected... this mean the "phenomenon" can be detectable via RF.

            The feet don't know, but "medition" was made with pistol. But as pistol catch the secondary effect is possible that 7.2 feet can be exceeded easily.
            Of course,
            secondary effect. This effect is derinitely not gold ions in the air. It is something different.
            The fact is nobody knows what it is. This is why we hear people call it "phenomenon". Same as when people claim strong signal with a metal detector that disappears after they dig a coin, they call it "halo". They don't know what caused it, only that they detected it.
            Maybe "phenomenon" is seen same as "halo". Both are claimed to be detected, and for both, nobody knows exactly what is detected.
            People only assume it is electric or magnetic, but not sure.
            The only test that was made with standard instruments was to check it is not ions in the air. But instruments did measure ions in the ground above buried metal.
            So we are sure there are ions below the ground

            Best wishes,
            J_P

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            • Originally posted by Max View Post
              Here's the preview...

              as always... unfortunately... stamp-sized!

              BUT CHINESE OF ALL PLANET STAY TUNED...

              INTERESTING THINGS WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY...

              AND MAYBE COMPLETE RELEASE OF ALL

              PD SECRETS HERE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM FOR ANYONE

              for now... please...be patient....

              Kind regards,
              Max


              Ahahahahahahahahah! Max that is funny!
              ......
              How about this secret project?!

              Attached Files
              http://www.infowars.com

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              • Originally posted by ivconic View Post

                Ahahahahahahahahah! Max that is funny!
                ......
                How about this secret project?!

                Hmmmm... it's stamp sized...must be good then!

                "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                But we dont need a reason
                "

                someone said...

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                • Originally posted by hung View Post
                  How naive...

                  It this was so, every time wind would blow, also electrons would vanish and your favorite radio station 'would be lost' for sometime.
                  Do you loose that signal?
                  Such dribble. Obviously you need to read about basic radio transmission theory.

                  HH Rudy,
                  MXT, HeadHunter Wader


                  Do or do not. There is no try.
                  Yoda

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                  • Originally posted by Rudy
                    Originally posted by hung
                    How naive...

                    It this was so, every time wind would blow, also electrons would vanish and your favorite radio station 'would be lost' for sometime.
                    Do you loose that signal?

                    Such dribble. Obviously you need to read about basic radio transmission theory. __________________

                    HH Rudy,
                    MXT, HeadHunter Wader


                    Do or do not. There is no try.
                    Yoda
                    Hi Rudy,
                    I kinda thought radio waves could travel through a vacuum without needing ions or electrons to propagate. I guess I was wrong.
                    Who needs to learn about basic radio transmission theory? Doesn't the esteemed Dr. hung know it inside and out?
                    He knows transmission principles that are over my head... that's for sure:
                    Originally posted by hung
                    This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned.


                    Best wishes,
                    J_P

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                    • Last News

                      Dr. Best decided to upgrade Ultimate Single Chip Spiral Antenna LRL to Ultimate Single Chip Spiral Antenna Quartz controlled LRL.

                      It is well known that quartz crystal oscillators operating in the thickness shear mode (TSM) are widely used to detect mass and viscosity changes in thin films and to monitor adsorption from gas and liquid phases of elements.

                      The precision and detection limits attainable are constrained by the baseline response of the bare crystal.

                      Dr Best show here that using a conductive adhesive (Eccobond 56C) to fix the spiral antennas directly to the quartz oscillator results in significant improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio in measurements of the conductance of the bare crystal and a net increase in the baseline conductance over the temperature range 5-75 °C.

                      But, very important (!!!): the baseline frequency and frequency versus temperature remain the same or change only slightly. The conductive adhesive improves the stability, precision, and reproducibility in quartz crystal microbalance measurements.

                      So dr. Best can now to upgrade Ultimate LRL to quartz crystal microbalanced detection of gold only by put some gold on back spiral antenna and search for balance with gold in soil.
                      Global capital is ruining your life?
                      You have right to self-defence!

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                      • Originally posted by Rudy View Post
                        Such dribble. Obviously you need to read about basic radio transmission theory.
                        It really does no good for Hung to read about wave propagation concepts, if he refuses to accept and understand them.

                        I guess like Dell and the other LRL/MFD advocates, it's a whole more fun to live in the world of pseudo science where they can make up their own rules of physics and other strange (as yet undiscovered) phenomenon.

                        The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                        Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                        • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                          It really does no good for Hung to read about wave propagation concepts, if he refuses to accept and understand them.

                          I guess like Dell and the other LRL/MFD advocates, it's a whole more fun to live in the world of pseudo science where they can make up their own rules of physics and other strange (as yet undiscovered) phenomenon.
                          Some do not "make their own laws," only looking for "secondary manifestations".

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                          • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                            Some do not "make their own laws," only looking for "secondary manifestations".
                            For Hung it is diferent:I already told you, he lives in a parallel dimension.He only uses internet to explain how laws of Physics works "over there".

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                            • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                              Some do not "make their own laws," only looking for "secondary manifestations".
                              Generally, it is thought to be only reasonable to first have established a correct and valid primary manifestation; before wandering around looking form the secondary ones.

                              Perhaps you (or someone else) could explain in basic terms what the primary manifestation is.

                              The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                              Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                              • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                                Generally, it is thought to be only reasonable to first have established a correct and valid primary manifestation; before wandering around looking form the secondary ones.

                                Perhaps you (or someone else) could explain in basic terms what the primary manifestation is.
                                The primary manifestation is magnetic and electric (or conductive properties for each metal). This primary manifestation can distort a little the magnetic lines of Earth, this occurs with iron and also with non ferrous metals. Action of water in soil, particle migration, chemical process in situ and possible redadiated RF signals can produce the secondary manifestation.

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