dr. Best Ultimate Single Chip Two Antennas LRL

[WM6]

Hi wm6,

thanks...

please tell us more about building spiral antenna sensor and show in schematic where spiral antenna connect to board ?
also please give us exactly spiral antenna dimensions and it's material to detect gold?
if possible show detail of spiral antenna with picture...
I am waiting for your answer...

L1 and L2 (here only residue from first schematic with telescopic antenna) represent both spiral antennas. You simply replace L1 and L2 by spiral coils.

To build spiral antenna nothing is critical. But ideally for gold treasure you can follow this data:

- outer coil diameter 173mm
- number of turns 17,3 (because of centered beginning mean practically 17 full turns)
- material copper tube with hole not smaller than 1,73mm (copper wire diameter 1.73 mm on a supporting plate (see picture at post # 9) will also be good.)

Coil inductivity for gold have to be bigger than 173nH.

Not to forget to wind the coils in opposite direction, and to check correct winding and resonance that no conductivity must be measured between ends of a same coil. : as we all know when in resonance impedance of a coil raise sharply.

Yes Fred, thank you. Of course we are speaking about 1730MHz on which natural gold resonate (although we do not need to worry about resonance by spiral antenna because it is wide-band in contrary of telescopic antennas). For others metal this instructions are not adequate and need adoptions.

[Fred]

Yes Fred, thank you. Of course we are speaking about 1730MHz on which natural gold resonate. For other frequencies this instructions are not valid.

Absolutely, except for all its harmonics and sub-harmonics (i think).
We could also measure amperage at coil ends, but for that we need Hung´s advice.

[J_Player]

Why use dual spiral sensor, not only one, or use of primitive telescopic antenna?

Here some scientifically based data in excerpt from Russian Physics Journal, Vol. 48, No. 9, 2005

In the present article, the design of a two-spiral flat coil intended for detecting NQR signals is described. Results of calculations of its magnetic fields and field non-uniformities are presented for windings of different types. It is demonstrated that the two-spiral coil field is localized in the near-field zone and has more uniform structure than the field of the conventional spiral coil with the same radius and winding type. It is emphasized that the two-spiral coil has higher sensitivity than the analogous conventional flat coil.

The description of methods of detecting 14N NQR signals with the use of a transceiving flat spiral coil can be found in [4–9]. In [7] windings of different types were analyzed and it was pointed out that the optimal winding for the spiral coil of a given diameter obeys the law
b = a ln(1 + k φ) ,
where b is the radial winding coordinate, φ is the current angle of the winding element in the polar system of coordinates, k is the coefficient determined by the coil dimension and the number of turns, and a is the logarithmic winding spacing.

On the other hand, the results of calculations demonstrate that the radio-frequency field of spiral coils is analogous to that of a single turn with current and radius equal to that of the coil. The denser the coil winding toward the external spiral radius, the closer the spiral winding field to that of the turn with current.As is well known (for example, see [12]), the coil with current has a wide effective directivity pattern; as a consequence, the spiral coil with the density of windings increasing toward the external coil radius will have low spatial selectivity and large noise level. The flat spiral coil with uniform winding [8, 11] has still a greater number of disadvantages than the coil with non-uniform winding.

At the same time, to increase the signal-to-noise ratio of the receiving antenna, the radio-frequency field of the coil must be localized in the volume being detected, and as already indicated above, a very uniform field must be created by the transmitting coil. In the present work, we suggest a two-spiral flat transceiving coil to improve the method and means for detecting NQR signals with flat spiral coils [8, 10]. The characteristics of this coil for a preset volume being detected are better than those of the conventional flat spiral coil with the same radius. We consider two-spiral flat coils of two types with constant winding spacing and spacing that obeys law (1) as well as give results of calculations of radio-frequency fields for coils of both types and of their average relative field non-uniformities together with measurements of NQR signal intensity with the two-spiral coils versus the distance from the examined sample.

Hi WM6,
After reading the Russian Physics Journal excerpt, I can see that the double spiral antenna (while an improvement over the single spiral), still has serious limitations in the signal to noise ratio. ie: The spiral coil must be localized in the volume of the RF field being detected, a very uniform field must be created by a transmitting coil.

Now, considering we are searching for gold, the dual spiral coil antenna will not be centered in a uniform gold RF field. Knowing that the gold signal is "shot in a signal line", a treasure hunter would have to be very lucky to be holding the antenna in the middle of this "shot signal" by chance. Therefore we can expect he will be getting a very poor signal to noise ratio with much random beeping until he gets lucky enough to cross into a gold signal line with the antenna. In addition, he will need to continually adjust the rotation, hoping to achieve proper phasing while searching for a gold signal line to position the antenna. I can see how treasure hunting could take some long time when using this dual spiral antenna.

For this reason I think it is of urgent importance to secure the design details for the advanced pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna. With the pyramidal logarithmic design, the reception will no longer be restricted to the limitations of law-1: b = a ln(1 + k φ) , and because it is a quadro design, the side-lobes of the gold signal are not lost as in the single and dual spiral designs. Is there any chance we will see some construction details for the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

You guys forgot to add an autoreversing magnetic spin accelerator.... all this stuff will not work without... I warned you!

Also, will be useful some spare plutonium rod to generate energy required....

But I think Dr. Best found alternatives already, like cold fusion cells... made of tungsten doped with cerium oxides.

btw.... I miss that issue of Russian Journal of Physics...

Kind regards,
Max

[WM6]

Hi WM6,
After reading the Russian Physics Journal excerpt, I can see that the double spiral antenna (while an improvement over the single spiral), still has serious limitations in the signal to noise ratio. ie: The spiral coil must be localized in the volume of the RF field being detected, a very uniform field must be created by a transmitting coil.

Now, considering we are searching for gold, the dual spiral coil antenna will not be centered in a uniform gold RF field. Knowing that the gold signal is "shot in a signal line", a treasure hunter would have to be very lucky to be holding the antenna in the middle of this "shot signal" by chance. Therefore we can expect he will be getting a very poor signal to noise ratio with much random beeping until he gets lucky enough to cross into a gold signal line with the antenna. In addition, he will need to continually adjust the rotation, hoping to achieve proper phasing while searching for a gold signal line to position the antenna. I can see how treasure hunting could take some long time when using this dual spiral antenna.

For this reason I think it is of urgent importance to secure the design details for the advanced pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna. With the pyramidal logarithmic design, the reception will no longer be restricted to the limitations of law-1: b = a ln(1 + k φ) , and because it is a quadro design, the side-lobes of the gold signal are not lost as in the single and dual spiral designs. Is there any chance we will see some construction details for the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P

You are right.

But for now we have only complete data for flat spiral sensor.

Dr Best is allowed only to publish picture of (from previous medium development phase), conical testing sensor without any data. But maybe someone can try to build this sensor too, according picture.

[Max]

Hi J_P

You are right.

But for now we have only complete data for flat spiral sensor.

Dr Best is allowed only to publish picture of (from previous medium development phase), conical testing sensor without any data. But maybe someone can try to build this sensor too, according picture.

I wonder what will be next step..

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

I have been experimenting and found that after your non-conductive waveguide i could make also a non-conductive spiral antenna, by ionising gas.
Actually the antenna istself and ionising circuits are already done :



It has certain advantages at night, and it is a proven fact that with it you dig less empty holes (for small targets) than with spiral coils made of conventional materials.
Note that this is a double spitral antena, not triple like yours.

[WM6]

You guys forgot to add an autoreversing magnetic spin accelerator.... all this stuff will not work without... I warned you!

Also, will be useful some spare plutonium rod to generate energy required....

But I think Dr. Best found alternatives already, like cold fusion cells... made of tungsten doped with cerium oxides.

btw.... I miss that issue of Russian Journal of Physics...

Kind regards,
Max

It seems strong to me that your faith in this magnificent project is not strong enough?
I guess Estebans doubt to him undermine you?
Don't forget that LRL community count on your support.

[WM6]

I have been experimenting and found that after your non-conductive waveguide .

Hey Fred, this is not nonconducting waveguide, this is Hi Tech carbon shielding (delicate litz wire inside).

As you stated, triple spiral, middle conductor connected to ground point for shielding role.

But there is quite considerable reason in your proposal.

But at last, all data was given, go on work boys!

[Fred]

The nonconductive ((flexible) waveguide i was referring to are the ones you used to connect both spirals in the picture of your post #24 :



I have noticed the your pictures are shrinking and will soon reach the stamp size- synonym of supreme perfection in the LRL world.

[J_Player]

The nonconductive ((flexible) waveguide i was referring to are the ones you used to connect both spirals in the picture of your post #24 :

I have noticed the your pictures are shrinking and will soon reach the stamp size- synonym of supreme perfection in the LRL world.

Hi Fred,
I see your version of the spiral coil seems to show some degree of radiant EM energy, probably caused by heavy ionization in the vicinity of the coil/nonconductive flexible wave guide. I also see the image of the Dr. Best pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna is radiating in several colors and only using carbon-litz technology (personally I think there is a flexible nonconductive wave guide concealed under the cone). Are these flexible non-conductive wave guides secret technology taken from space alien ships? Is this what causes these antennas to radiate colors and to shrink to the size of supreme perfection in the LRL world?

If these antennas continue to shrink, then they will eventually reach the dimensions of quantum energies, and will take on a timeless character which allows to travel to the past for viewing the original time of burying the metal. This is the ultimate form of the LRL perfection. Maybe we need to be careful with these flexible non-conductive wave guides, so we can return to the correct present time with the treasures?

Best wishes,
J_P

[nelson]

I had build this too has an antenna for hams bands
Can anyone, tell me how to cennect this spiral antena to the divice show here, cause for hamradio, you use aligator clips to conect the antenna. One goes to the coax shield and the other goes to the center of the coax. But in this divise seems that the te start pont of the spiral and the end of the spiral for one side, connects to L1 and the other connects to L2, is this correct?
Regards
Nelson

Ok ,
already built this one from your picture,
Is this close enough ?
I detect many things but not sure of size of treasures.
There is gold everywhere in my house and i suppose it is making interferences.
The closer one coming from the coaxial connectors that connect to the antenna itself
Tried to scrap it but surely some atoms remains.
Please help me i need to find a treasure urgently!

[nelson]

Hi Fred.
About this divice, have you got any succsess.
Today i just order the chip for this project, so please let us know more about your expirencies.
Kind regards
Nelson

Ok ,
already built this one from your picture,
Is this close enough ?
I detect many things but not sure of size of treasures.
There is gold everywhere in my house and i suppose it is making interferences.
The closer one coming from the coaxial connectors that connect to the antenna itself
Tried to scrap it but surely some atoms remains.
Please help me i need to find a treasure urgently!

[Fred]

Hi Fred.
About this divice, have you got any succsess.
Today i just order the chip for this project, so please let us know more about your expirencies.
Kind regards
Nelson

Just´kidding Neslon, dont waste your time !

[nelson]

Hi Fred, so you didn´t made the divice?
Well, i think that must be something of thru on this, but if no one mede it, it will be impossible to know if is a fake or if it really have a chance to work.
Regards
Nelson

Just´kidding Neslon, dont waste your time !