Morgan and Geo's Videos

[Qiaozhi]

Hi

For me no problem to put public this LRL videos.
I not use any kind of magic
My mind is free,my presence here is not to deceive the forum members,all the tests show only that PHENOMENON is REAL.

Regards

OK - based on this post - I am placing the videos here for public viewing.
There will be 9 videos in total.
May the debate begin ...

[Qiaozhi]

Here are the other 4 videos.

[Clondike Clad]

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Here are the other 4 videos.

Ok thinks for the video.
BUT what I sew I will keep to my self.

[Fred]

Are Geo´s movies being released too ?

[hillman]

hi every body in the video of dc2008 i can see that they calibrate the device many times from the sensitive knob can you explane to me how to do it. thanks for the video morgan and geo. regards hillman

[Theseus]

Here are the other 4 videos.

Thanks for your efforts and uploading the videos. We shall see what we shall see.

[Jim]

beyond humorous

[Qiaozhi]

Are Geo´s movies being released too ?

I'm waiting for Geo to email them to me.

[WM6]

Excellent demonstration of "LRL for Dummies"

Well known tricks. Basically used from HAM radio contests, so called Amateur radio direction finding (ARDF), also known as "Fox hunting" (and such "LRL" receiver: ARDF receiver or "Fox Finder").

Such one HAM radio FoxFinder equipped with ferrite rod antenna (as those which we can see on videos of opened Mineoros) you can see on picture down:



Ferrite rod antenna antenna uses the magnetic component of the radio signals in this way means that the antenna is directive (you can test this on all MW/LW/SW portable radio by rotating).

LRL trick happens the following way: in a pile of rocks someone hide simple and weak ARDF (or LRL if you wish) transmitter (best broadband to catch different "LRLs"), near to transmitter (underneath the earth) can be buried some gold objects. Since both are in the same direction, will "LRL" already some meters away discover transmitters "gold", and comparative metal detector (Tesoro) discover real gold object in the ground in the usual way. Take video and we have "scientific evidence of working LRL devices" (with addition: for dummies). I hope that testers have a great time at least.

Of course, all written in this post can be argued by valid evidence on the ground, which is not under the control of LRL producers, sellers, promoters or believers.

[Qiaozhi]

Excellent demonstration of "LRL for Dummies"

Well known tricks. Basically used from HAM radio contests, so called Amateur radio direction finding (ARDF), also known as "Fox hunting" (and such "LRL" receiver: ARDF receiver or "Fox Finder").

Such one HAM radio FoxFinder equipped with ferrite rod antenna (as those which we can see on videos of opened Mineoros) you can see on picture down:



Ferrite rod antenna antenna uses the magnetic component of the radio signals in this way means that the antenna is directive (you can test this on all MW/LW/SW portable radio by rotating).

LRL trick happens the following way: in a pile of rocks someone hide simple and weak ARDF (or LRL if you wish) transmitter (best broadband to catch different "LRLs"), near to transmitter (underneath the earth) can be buried some gold objects. Since both are in the same direction, will "LRL" already some meters away discover transmitters "gold", and comparative metal detector (Tesoro) discover real gold object in the ground in the usual way. Take video and we have "scientific evidence of working LRL devices" (with addition: for dummies). I hope that testers have a great time at least.

Of course, all written in this post can be argued by valid evidence on the ground, which is not under the control of LRL producers, sellers, promoters or believers.

Of course this is a valid method of "trickery", if that was the intent, and we all need to guard against such devious tactics. However, in this case (unlike a certain other video, that will go unnamed here) both Morgan and Geo are honestly reporting their findings. I am certain of that. But - like all witnesses of any kind of event (like an RTA or a robbery, for example) everyone has a different perception of what happened. Devout believers of LRLs will hail the videos as a success that proves beyond all doubt the PHENOMENON exists ... while skeptics will see something different. Without double-blind testing this will always be the case. You will see what you expect to see.

So whether this is yet another example of a "trick of the mind", or the targets are really being detected from 2 meters away, becomes a matter of personal opinion. At least these videos will provide material for hot debate for some time to come.

[WM6]

Without double-blind testing this will always be the case.

Who is the third person, if Leo and Morgan represent double blind testers?

[Theseus]

The last video, where they were digging the targets(?) was the most interesting to me.

Naturally, a regulation D-B test protocol would have been ideal, but in lieu of that; I guess we will have to be satisfied with this demonstration.

Clearly, the digging and discovery process raised very important questions in my mind:

After unearthing two pieces of junk or scrap metal, then a silver ring was found.

1.) Since there were at least 2 or more pieces of scrap metal in the same area as the ring, was the Pistol detector reacting to the scrap metal, the ring, or all the various metal items in the area?

2.) After the ring was found, no further digging was done. Were there other pieces of scrap metal in that area? Were there other precious metals in the area?

3.) Once all the possible targets (scrap metal, ring, etc) were removed, it would have been interesting to scan the area again with the Pistol detector. Perhaps it was initially reacting to a mineralized or hot rock in that general area, and it was a coincidence that the other metals were found.

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Nevertheless, I commend those who took the time to create the demonstration and to post the videos here. Thanks

[J_Player]

The last video, where they were digging the targets(?) was the most interesting to me.

Naturally, a regulation D-B test protocol would have been ideal, but in lieu of that; I guess we will have to be satisfied with this demonstration.

Clearly, the digging and discovery process raised very important questions in my mind:

After unearthing two pieces of junk or scrap metal, then a silver ring was found.

1.) Since there were at least 2 or more pieces of scrap metal in the same area as the ring, was the Pistol detector reacting to the scrap metal, the ring, or all the various metal items in the area?

2.) After the ring was found, no further digging was done. Were there other pieces of scrap metal in that area? Were there other precious metals in the area?

3.) Once all the possible targets (scrap metal, ring, etc) were removed, it would have been interesting to scan the area again with the Pistol detector. Perhaps it was initially reacting to a mineralized or hot rock in that general area, and it was a coincidence that the other metals were found.

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Nevertheless, I commend those who took the time to create the demonstration and to post the videos here. Thanks

Hi Theseus,
I wondered that too. My best guess is they did continue digging the remaining targets, and found only more trash. But they cut off that part of the video in order to keep the file sizes to a minimum for downloading. I remember Morgan saying he needed time to cut out the best segments of video to send from hours of video footage.

This is why I think it is better to be there in person. If you are watching the hunters abandon the search area after finding the ring, you could yell out "Hey... there's more targets there, let's see what else we find." Or if they did dig the rest of the targets, and found them to be trash stuff, then you would be satisfied that the ring was the only good target found at that site, and not guessing with questions from a video.

From what I understand of the pistol detector, it is said to discriminate, and will show strong response to certain classes of targets. This may explain why its response is not the same as the VLF detector. Also, it is said to be poor at pinpointing or detecting anything at close range like a conventional detector can. It seems to me the pistol detector directional properties begin to decay in the same range where a conventional detector begins to pick up a signal.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Well known tricks. Basically used from HAM radio contests, so called Amateur radio direction finding (ARDF), also known as "Fox hunting" (and such "LRL" receiver: ARDF receiver or "Fox Finder").

Such one HAM radio FoxFinder equipped with ferrite rod antenna (as those which we can see on videos of opened Mineoros) you can see on picture down:



Ferrite rod antenna antenna uses the magnetic component of the radio signals in this way means that the antenna is directive (you can test this on all MW/LW/SW portable radio by rotating).

LRL trick happens the following way: ...

Hmmm....
Interesting concept.
Here is a new LRL trick that anybody with a pistol detector can try.
This trick can be used in places where treasure hunting is restricted, and will allow treasure hunters to hunt freely without annoying government agencies interfering with the fun of recovering fabulous treasures. First you must disguise your pistol detector to look like the RDF pistol above. Then you get your friends to do the same with their pistol detectors. Then post a website showing your amateur radio foxhunting group with the names and pictures of all your friends posted, and the big upcoming transmitter hunt to be held in the location where you want to treasure hunt. Of course, you will take a small transmitter to the site and bury it beforehand, but I doubt your pistol detectors will find it, especially when it is turned off. Any government officials will ignore your activities in the hunt site, because they know you are having good clean fun looking for the elusive transmitter. They can see on your web page this is a legitimate hunting activity. Be sure to carry a large burlap sack to conceal any gold statues uncovered.

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

Eeehhhmmm!

Prevaricate...!?
Seems i was stupid enough to say directly what was on my mind!
But so as i see; all my remarks will be repeated one by one here, slowly and in a pleasant tone!
I am wandering how come that always, by the rule, someting obstruct our chances to get the final truth!? Always!
Never mind! Who cares!? Me? Nooooooo!