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  • #76
    Originally posted by Esteban View Post
    If your "audience" follow you, your audience is silly. I combat you and your audience.
    Esteban that uses logic ???

    A real paradox now !

    Maybe are side effects of PaloAlto and napalm...

    Seems napalm is neurotoxic... apart the other nasty effects when burns...

    Kind regards,
    Max

    "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
    But we dont need a reason
    "

    someone said...

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    • #77
      The LRL films

      Originally posted by Jim View Post
      From the videos, it appears the targets were known. That is no big surprise.

      What is a surprise is how violently you have to swing/shake/move the locators about to make them work. Once over the target (within a few inches) they do not work. Just how in the heck do you pinpoint something when it beeps with your arm extended out to the right, but you are walking straight ahead?

      The pinpointing skills with the metal detector was so dramatic, it was ridicules. Its over here…no, its over here..no, its way over here.

      Good grief folks
      First of all :

      We not swing detectors too fast,its the digital camera problem,it makes it more fast becouse of low resolution.

      Of course the targets was located previously or instead of 40 MGb of film we will have 500 MGb.

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      • #78
        i haven't a words

        that incredible people afther the video you have only this to make and to said !!! congratulation

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Morgan View Post
          First of all :

          We not swing detectors too fast,its the digital camera problem,it makes it more fast becouse of low resolution.

          Of course the targets was located previously or instead of 40 MGb of film we will have 500 MGb.
          Sorry, but to my eye it appears that you have to violently shake the device in order for it to work. And even then, it only appears to work intermittently.

          Pinpointing the ring with your metal detector also seemed melodramatic. That's just my opinion, you may not be proficient with conventional metal detectors.

          Thanks for making the videos, and please do not confuse my constructive criticism for negativity.

          Jim

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          • #80
            Originally posted by putrechigi
            that incredible people afther the video you have only this to make and to said !!! congratulation
            I thought the videos were good. I could see there was more beeping when moving towards the buried targets, and not too much beeping when away from the targets. It did not look like random beeping to me, it looked like stronger response in the location of the treasures.

            But the videos do not show all the details, so many people will want to ask more questions so they will know answers that were not shown on the videos. It would be best to see the demonstration live where you can test the detectors with your own hands, then there will be no questions. But when we are only seeing videos, then it is normal to ask questions for things you don't understand, and things that the video did not show.

            Best wishse,
            J_P

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            • #81
              For the true LRL believer are videos evidence, because they believe in magic LRL even without video.

              For skeptics, it is much more interesting all those what video does not show as what they show.
              Global capital is ruining your life?
              You have right to self-defence!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by J_Player View Post

                I thought the videos were good. I could see there was more beeping when moving towards the buried targets, and not too much beeping when away from the targets. It did not look like random beeping to me, it looked like stronger response in the location of the treasures.
                By your best guess, would you say the distance the gizmo started beeping was Long Range? I believe the beeping should have started WAY back yonder, not as close as they were.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Jim
                  By your best guess, would you say the distance the gizmo started beeping was Long Range? I believe the beeping should have started WAY back yonder, not as close as they were.
                  Good question, Jim,
                  From what I saw on the videos, the ranged looked to be about 2 meters. Not the long range of finding a coin at a mile as claimed for the RangerTell, but longer than the range of the average metal detector.
                  If I were there at the demonstration, I would definitely start way back yonder. And I would have a non-metallic measuring tape rolled out to see where the first response was found. Then I would repeat this test at 8 compass directions to determine if anything changed when searching from different directions. Then, I would take notes on what kind of response I found as I came in closer, and I would move the detector slowly in a lot of directions and angles to see what happens to the response at different distances from the target.

                  These are a lot of things we cannot know the answers to from just watching the videos, and a good reason why it is a lot better to be there in person. If you are there in person, then you can run any kind of test you want to convince yourself these detectors are working or not. But with videos, we will see only what the lens can capture. Still, my opinion after seeing the video and knowing the character of Morgan and Geo, I have seen enough to convince me that this is worth seeing live to find the rest of the answers. While these videos won't be proof for everyone, they are still the best LRL videos I have ever seen presented in the Geotech forums.

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                    Good question, Jim,
                    From what I saw on the videos, the ranged looked to be about 2 meters. Not the long range of finding a coin at a mile as claimed for the RangerTell, but longer than the range of the average metal detector.
                    If I were there at the demonstration, I would definitely start way back yonder. And I would have a non-metallic measuring tape rolled out to see where the first response was found. Then I would repeat this test at 8 compass directions to determine if anything changed when searching from different directions. Then, I would take notes on what kind of response I found as I came in closer, and I would move the detector slowly in a lot of directions and angles to see what happens to the response at different distances from the target.

                    These are a lot of things we cannot know the answers to from just watching the videos, and a good reason why it is a lot better to be there in person. If you are there in person, then you can run any kind of test you want to convince yourself these detectors are working or not. But with videos, we will see only what the lens can capture. Still, my opinion after seeing the video and knowing the character of Morgan and Geo, I have seen enough to convince me that this is worth seeing live to find the rest of the answers. While these videos won't be proof for everyone, they are still the best LRL videos I have ever seen presented in the Geotech forums.

                    Best wishes,
                    J_P
                    Thank you for your reply.

                    Thank goodness the cars parked a few meters behind the target did not hinder the operation

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Jim View Post
                      By your best guess, would you say the distance the gizmo started beeping was Long Range? I believe the beeping should have started WAY back yonder, not as close as they were.
                      This is an interesting question. If 2 meters is the long range detecting distance, then it would be quicker and easier to cover this distance with a normal metal detector, considering the imprecise nature of the beeping. The claimed advantage (I think) is that the Tesoro was unable to detect the medal in the pile of stones.

                      Question for Morgan:
                      How deep was the medal buried?

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                      • #86
                        Hi friends.
                        Nice effort, Morgan and Geo!!
                        Luckily done, thank you for dedicating your valuable time. it's a detection, clear without doubt at least for people has taken
                        PD in hand, but again as was expected some cynical skeptics think and judge as they like, this was the reason I gave up to prepare movie of PD reaction on big treasure location cos is a useless work and at last confront with such cheap sarcastic words, so dedicate time, take risk and...... to prepare movie file for what? for who? to make another road on my nerves?

                        As I said in past, about small objects I don't know enough, but I know on a real treasure site PD becomes crazy.of course not with shaking hands fast( as some point here that I don't see in movies), you can imagine after passing hundreds meters with silent PD abrubtly near a specific location signals appears and very close to point enters to continuous beep. The reaction that even some powerful PIs are unable and remain silent.
                        the distance of signal appearing depends on target size, in my PD first signals for our biggest target appears from 50-60 meters and from 20-30 meters of the edge of target it becomes crazy and for smaller targets appears from 15-20 meters and from 7-8 meters it becomes crazy.
                        so it's a real LRL ( you like or dislike), and a good LRL for serious treasure hunters for monitoring an vast area to gather information of location.
                        and after that check there by precious pinpointer (MD or GPR), cos not efficient to pinpoint very old buried and deep treasures.

                        Anyway, those guys who always groan and complain as I see mostly are from Europe and easy for them to go there be eyewitness of PD working why didn't answer to Morgan invitation to go there, wouldn't you fear of something?
                        wouldn't you fear of demonstrating something that is in opposite of your life believes?
                        Morgan innocent invitation of you is another reason of his honesty, of course if you believe him or not, will never harm him or influence PD efficiency.

                        BTW, Morgan, please e-mail me other parts of movie that are interesting of your PD detection have not been attached here. I like add them in my archive.

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                        • #87
                          Afer all the years the B?S is still going strong.

                          No working circuits that anyone can get working .
                          No proof that anyone can test
                          No DB testing
                          No
                          No NO
                          People I hope are not that stupit.
                          It is amost 2010 and still no working LRL that WORKS.

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                          • #88
                            Hi Michael
                            Originally posted by michael View Post
                            you can imagine after passing hundreds meters with silent PD abrubtly near a specific location signals appears and very close to point enters to continuous beep. The reaction that even some powerful PIs are unable and remain silent.
                            That i would really like to see .The hundred meters of silence , althrough could be considered uninteresting, is the best part in my opinion. Of course the target should be identified too.

                            Originally posted by michael View Post
                            Morgan innocent invitation of you is another reason of his honesty, of course if you believe him or not, will never harm him or influence PD efficiency.
                            I think nobody doubts of Morgan and Geo´s word. But while the videos are interesting, they cannot be seen as a proof of what is being detected by the PD.
                            Originally posted by michael View Post
                            BTW, Morgan, please e-mail me other parts of movie that are interesting of your PD detection have not been attached here. I like add them in my archive.
                            I would like that too, and i am expecting Geo´s video too, to try to get an idea of how the PD responds "naturaly" in the field.

                            Regards,
                            fred.

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                            • #89
                              Target near the road

                              Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                              Good question, Jim,
                              From what I saw on the videos, the ranged looked to be about 2 meters. Not the long range of finding a coin at a mile as claimed for the RangerTell, but longer than the range of the average metal detector.
                              If I were there at the demonstration, I would definitely start way back yonder. And I would have a non-metallic measuring tape rolled out to see where the first response was found. Then I would repeat this test at 8 compass directions to determine if anything changed when searching from different directions. Then, I would take notes on what kind of response I found as I came in closer, and I would move the detector slowly in a lot of directions and angles to see what happens to the response at different distances from the target.

                              These are a lot of things we cannot know the answers to from just watching the videos, and a good reason why it is a lot better to be there in person. If you are there in person, then you can run any kind of test you want to convince yourself these detectors are working or not. But with videos, we will see only what the lens can capture. Still, my opinion after seeing the video and knowing the character of Morgan and Geo, I have seen enough to convince me that this is worth seeing live to find the rest of the answers. While these videos won't be proof for everyone, they are still the best LRL videos I have ever seen presented in the Geotech forums.

                              Best wishes,
                              J_P
                              Lets see again the LRL film"Target near the road"

                              1-I get the first signals maybe 2m or more from the target(unfortunatly silverpaper). Then i return back a few steps and detection STOP,and go to front again(south direction) and detection start again,THIS MEANS NOT RANDOMIC BEEPS,I DETECT SOMETHING.

                              2-I continue detection of the target,i walk over the target,i left the target behind and detection STOP.

                              3-I return to target again,this time south to north and catct the target again,but more short distance. becouse PHENOMENON irradiate more to North,it as eliptical shape.

                              THIS PART OF THE FILM IS THE PURE EVIDENCE THAT PHENOMENON IS REAL,two witness saw and recorded in film,BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE

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                              • #90
                                The LRL criticism

                                Originally posted by putrechigi View Post
                                that incredible people afther the video you have only this to make and to said !!! congratulation
                                I´m realy not worry with all this critics,but when they say so big nonsense i start laug to myselve

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