Large Gold Hoard Found

[Esteban]

That sounds right.
Maybe we should begin posting all those newspaper articles we read about ancient gold treasure hoards found by dowsing here.

Best wishes,
J_P

I don't understand the people... Recently, a man with absorptive pistol detect a spot, maybe 30 meters in distance. Pistol show the site, but this man also "corroborate" the mark with LRL rods... The man found a silver adorn 10 X 10 cm at 1.20 m depth...

[Morgan]

The price for one Treasure

So, any BFO or toy detector can find it. Lucky man. I noticed that in GB and other european countries museums pay the correct price for the items found.

Yes,in GB they have very clever system when one person find Treasure . Unfortunatly in my country we whait 50 years for the government to make treasure valuation,and in the end they not pay nothing,and they say all the treasures belong to them,as result they allways lose,and the colectors make colections more rich,not the museum. England is the best country for Treasure hunting.

[Max]

Yes,in GB they have very clever system when one person find Treasure . Unfortunatly in my country we whait 50 years for the government to make treasure valuation,and in the end they not pay nothing,and they say all the treasures belong to them,as result they allways lose,and the colectors make colections more rich,not the museum. England is the best country for Treasure hunting.

Hi,
yes it is... and I say half states of EU have so restrictive rules on "treasures" that even go around with an MD in your hands can bring you easy to jail also!

The archeo-guys and funny politicians know ZERO of reality but just of camel-butt-hairs-brushes maybe, and they're happy this way... so why they have change their mind !?

Just cause other half of EU have more liberal and realistic approach to treasure hunters and real heritage preservation ???

No... EU is something you can never say there's something homogeneous in e.g. laws... so what's good for me could be bad for you and maybe passable for someone else all that in the same EU!

What's that ? We have 1 coin and monetary system and 27 different set of rules !?

Seems like a big joke these guys at Bruxelles do and laugh at us, that's it!

I do agree, UK is THE ONE AND ONLY treasure hunters heaven! (and of course, a very fair country that treat citizens for what they are... not as childrens, as happens in many places...)

Where else you can go around without e.g. any document that say who are you without risk to pass some hour at local police station !?

Uk, I love that country.

And ,of course, I like Ireland , expecially Aran islands...but for other reasons...

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Hi,
yes it is... and I say half states of EU have so restrictive rules on "treasures" that even go around with an MD in your hands can bring you easy to jail also!

The archeo-guys and funny politicians know ZERO of reality but just of camel-butt-hairs-brushes maybe, and they're happy this way... so why they have change their mind !?

Just cause other half of EU have more liberal and realistic approach to treasure hunters and real heritage preservation ???

No... EU is something you can never say there's something homogeneous in e.g. laws... so what's good for me could be bad for you and maybe passable for someone else all that in the same EU!

What's that ? We have 1 coin and monetary system and 27 different set of rules !?

Seems like a big joke these guys at Bruxelles do and laugh at us, that's it!

I do agree, UK is THE ONE AND ONLY treasure hunters heaven! (and of course, a very fair country that treat citizens for what they are... not as childrens, as happens in many places...)

Where else you can go around without e.g. any document that say who are you without risk to pass some hour at local police station !?

Uk, I love that country.

And ,of course, I like Ireland , expecially Aran islands...but for other reasons...

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,

"Where else you can go around without e.g. any document that say who are you without risk to pass some hour at local police station !?"
Most English-speaking countries you can walk the streets without ID documents... like Canada, USA, and Australia, New Zealand, and other places too. In most of Central and South America don't need to carry your ID with you in order to avoid risk of being sent to the police station. I suppose in much of the world it is safe to go around without ID documents... as long as a person is not creating problems.

But even these "free" countries have some poor treasure laws. The English treasure law is the best treasure law I have heard of:
"Pieces were just literally sat at the top of the soil, at the grass," said Ian Wykes, of the county council. He said the hoard had been unearthed by recent plowing".
In England a person can dig all the treasure and will be paid collector's value to give it to a museum. But what about other "free countries"? This treasure was "unearthed" in the grass from recent plowing. In a country where treasure hunting and metal detectors are illegal, a person walking through the field could find this treasure by accident. Maybe trip over a gold sword on the ground. If this kind of treasure was found in most other countries, we would never hear about it in the newspaper or see it in a museum. It would be hidden in the treasure hunter's secret cache or sold secretly to a collector. The idea that only government regulated Archaeologists can recover treasure seems like a sure way for a country to lose most national treasures found by secret treasure hunters. The English treasure law seems a very good way for a country to keep their national treasures.

PS. Does anybody know if dowsing is illegal in countries where treasure hunting is illegal?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Ireland

Hi,
yes it is... and I say half states of EU have so restrictive rules on "treasures" that even go around with an MD in your hands can bring you easy to jail also!

The archeo-guys and funny politicians know ZERO of reality but just of camel-butt-hairs-brushes maybe, and they're happy this way... so why they have change their mind !?

Just cause other half of EU have more liberal and realistic approach to treasure hunters and real heritage preservation ???

No... EU is something you can never say there's something homogeneous in e.g. laws... so what's good for me could be bad for you and maybe passable for someone else all that in the same EU!

What's that ? We have 1 coin and monetary system and 27 different set of rules !?

Seems like a big joke these guys at Bruxelles do and laugh at us, that's it!

I do agree, UK is THE ONE AND ONLY treasure hunters heaven! (and of course, a very fair country that treat citizens for what they are... not as childrens, as happens in many places...)

Where else you can go around without e.g. any document that say who are you without risk to pass some hour at local police station !?

Uk, I love that country.

And ,of course, I like Ireland , expecially Aran islands...but for other reasons...

Kind regards,
Max

About Ireland,i know two friends from there,Desmond and Roland,they are MINELAB dealers,they told me Ireland is a forbiden country for Treasure Hunting,i think its also forbiden to search in the beach...Nice country but so diferent from UK.

[Carl-NC]

Carl, do you know the model???

Eagle Spectrum.

Then the british laws suit the scenario with wonderful and reasonable rules that make all win.

Yes, the UK have the best treasure laws I know of.

All OK, but what are doing this thread in remote sensing if the ancient treasure was found with regular MD?

I think mostly to point out that, even though Britain has many dowsers, ordinary metal detectorists are making all the great finds. Dowsers aren't finding anything, unless you count ley lines.

- Carl

[putrechigi]

hi

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212031/10-000-Roman-coins-unearthed-amateur-metal-detector-enthusiast--treasure-hunt.html

[putrechigi]

hi

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212031/10-000-Roman-coins-unearthed-amateur-metal-detector-enthusiast--treasure-hunt.html

[J_Player]

Hmmm... And he didn't use dowsing rods....

A massive haul of more than 10,000 Roman coins has been unearthed by an amateur metal detecting enthusiast - on his first ever treasure hunt. The finder, Nick Davies, bought his first metal detector a month ago and this is his first find made with it. The silver and bronze 'nummi' coins, dating from between 240AD and 320AD, late in the reign of Constantine I, were discovered in a farmer's field near Shrewsbury, in Shropshire, last month. In total the coins and the pot weigh more than 70lb. Finder Nick Davies, 30, was on his first treasure hunt when he discovered the coins, mostly crammed inside a buried 70lb clay pot buried in the ground about 1,700 years ago..

Ok, maybe Esteban is right. So let's see all the newspaper articles about the large hoards found by dowsers.

Best wishes,
J_P

[michael]

Hi.
one lucky find nothing more, as you all know no professional work.
just luck (god providence) and again demonstration of British beautiful fair laws for THing and THers, shame on other countries governments.

..... Does anybody know if dowsing is illegal in countries where treasure hunting is illegal?

Dear J-P, here they will confiscate every tool that is suspect to use in THing. even a pair of L-rods.

[Esteban]

In Islamic countries seems is illegal, but maybe only for archaeologists investigations.

[Esteban]

Yes, the UK have the best treasure laws I know of.


- Carl

In UK, if you found a coin valuated, for example, US$ 150,000, the museum pay the price. They exhibit this coin in special and tourism and local stores wins.

[putrechigi]

hi

In UK, if you found a coin valuated, for example, US$ 150,000, the museum pay the price. They exhibit this coin in special and tourism and local stores wins.

hi esteban for italian people is dream

[Mike(Mont)]

Of course "pure" metal detectors are going to have more finds. I mean look at T-net--There are tens of thousands of MD'ers and about ten dowsers (if that many). I put "pure" in quotes because this is an unknown. When five percent of the people find ninety-five percent of the treasure, it's a whole lot more than dumb luck. What it is exactly is up for conjecture, but there is definitely a positive attitude among them as well as dowsers, in stark contrast to any skeptic.

[Theseus]

Of course "pure" metal detectors are going to have more finds. I mean look at T-net--There are tens of thousands of MD'ers and about ten dowsers (if that many). I put "pure" in quotes because this is an unknown. When five percent of the people find ninety-five percent of the treasure, it's a whole lot more than dumb luck. What it is exactly is up for conjecture, but there is definitely a positive attitude among them as well as dowsers, in stark contrast to any skeptic.

Your inference is that all skeptics lack a positive attitude. Do you have actual data to support that statement, or are you just making comments at random.

I fail to see the association between being skeptical about something and a person's attitude; be it positive or negative.

If we view your basic comments posted here, one might think that all dowsers suffer from extreme paranoia, are suspicious by nature and completely abhor rational science. But it would be erroneous to make such a silly association, because there are probably a lot of dowsers that are not paranoid, are not suspicious and fully accept the axioms of rational science.

Perhaps you do have data to support your inference. It would interesting to see it.