Unusually LRODS

[Dell Winders]

If you have not field tested the device how do you know it is operating strictly on Ideomotor response? I watched the video and I didn't see any indication of Ideomotor response. Pushing a button to power an electric motor, possibly.

Your Scientific approach based on your assumption, in my opinion is totally irresponsible Pretend Science. Let's see your field, or laboratory test results, or at least some indication you have Dowsing experience and know what you are talking about? Thanks! Dell

[Fred]

I don't take any prescription medications, I don't use drugs, I don't drink alcoholic beverages, and I dont smoke. Get help, Sam. Dell

I am glad you are so much better.
I remember a post where you were saying you are a poor man spending all of its pension into medication ...

[Qiaozhi]

If you have not field tested the device how do you know it is operating strictly on Ideomotor response? I watched the video and I didn't see any indication of Ideomotor response. Pushing a button to power an electric motor, possibly.

Your Scientific approach based on your assumption, in my opinion is totally irresponsible Pretend Science. Let's see your field, or laboratory test results, or at least some indication you have Dowsing experience and know what you are talking about? Thanks! Dell

It would be obvious to a blind man with a black bag over his head on a totally dark foggy night. No field or laboratory test needed here.

Anyway ... dowsing gadgets are incapable of successfully detecting anything, except gravity, in a properly controlled double-blind test, as you have found out to your detriment in the past.

And why would you surmise that there may be an electric motor in the device? What purpose could that possibly serve? Except to create the illusion of actually detecting something. In which case it's designed as a scam to fool the unwary ... or naive.

[Dell Winders]

However, second you are a simple Forum Troll, trying desperately to taunt those who have exposed your scam schemes, and get them removed from the forum.

Theseus, you say you have exposed me, put me out of business and yet I'm still here 24 years later still asking for you to show whatever legitimate proof you have to all your peers, and viewers.

I know you can't do this because there is nothing to expose. You have concocted stories from an irrational imagination and you have not exposed any thing but your self as being a chronic liar with mental disabilities.

I could care less, if Carl, allows you to use his forum, that's his business. But as long as you continue to use his forum as your personal media to bash me, and call me a Scammer, wallet miner, and other names of your choosing, rest assured that I will continue to defend my lifetime reputation of honesty and integrity against your false allegations as long as Carl, permits you to use his forum for that purpose.

Your extraordinary accusations require legitimate proof, so if you have any such proof, after 15 years of accusations, it's time you showed the world the years of scientific field testing you have conducted on mine and Tim Williams, products that legitimately substantiate your accusations against us.

Go ahead Theseus, show that you are a credible Scientist skilled in Earth Science physics, and not just a Scientific Pretender crackpot. Now, and everyday for 15 years you have had your chance to prove you are not a chronic Liar. I'm waiting for you to prove your allegations. Hopefully the Skeptics are interested in your Scientific field testing of Dell & Tim Williams LRL products also? Dell

[Dell Winders]

I remember a post where you were saying you are a poor man spending all of its pension into medication ...

Nope! I have never said anything about spending money on medication. Do you just sit around and make up things to say? Dell

[Theseus]

Theseus, you say you have exposed me... Dell

And, I have. Of course I'm not alone in my findings or my opinions, there are many others who are aware of your business(?) and what you are up to. Perhaps I have been a little more vocal and to the point, than some of the others.

If bashing me and making up lies to place on this forum (and others) makes you feel good; go right ahead and do what you think is in your best interests. Likewise, I intend to keep publishing the truth about your products as my research and testing confirms.

Just realize that bashing the investigators, making up lies and trying to stifle the truth they publish in no way validates your products or your business schemes.

Have a nice day....

[Theseus]

It would be obvious to a blind man with a black bag over his head on a totally dark foggy night. No field or laboratory test needed here.

I could not have said it better.

[Dell Winders]

It would be obvious to a blind man with a black bag over his head on a totally dark foggy night. No field or laboratory test needed here.

Anyway ... dowsing gadgets are incapable of successfully detecting anything, except gravity, in a properly controlled double-blind test, as you have found out to your detriment in the past.

And why would you surmise that there may be an electric motor in the device? What purpose could that possibly serve? Except to create the illusion of actually detecting something. In which case it's designed as a scam to fool the unwary ... or naive.

Nope! I did not surmise anything, just mentioning a possibility for you to ponder since I saw no evidence of an Ideomoter response in the video.

There's certainly not any Science to your approach. "Stupid is, as pretend Scientist does". Dell

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[Qiaozhi]

Nope! I did not surmise anything, just mentioning a possibility for you to ponder since I saw no evidence of an Ideomoter response in the video.

So you're saying that it's a scam?

[Qiaozhi]

AND This LRL
http://www.izlesene.com/video/amator-golden-dream-alantarama-video-goruntusu/1010554

Another waste-of-time dowsing contraption with do-nothing electronics on top of a swivel handle. More mind tricks.

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Nope! I did not surmise anything, just mentioning a possibility for you to ponder since I saw no evidence of an Ideomoter response in the video.
So you're saying that it's a scam?

Nope! I'm not saying that either. Like you, I have no way of knowing just by looking at it, and I have no ego to appease, or skeptic agenda to interfere.

I would have to field test it to ascertain the facts. Unlike you, I have the experience, and field knowledge to know what to look for, and what type of testing would be appropriate. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Another waste-of-time dowsing contraption with do-nothing electronics on top of a swivel handle. More mind tricks.

It looks very similar to other LRL's developed, and built by Electronic Engineers, or Techs.

Because this device is being balanced in a horizontal position it could easily be moved by an ideomotor response. But the question, Is it? Even a bent coat coat hanger held in a human hand can react to, and even lock onto the surrounding "field" of a buried anomaly.

Again, I have no way of knowing if that is what is happening, just by looking at a picture. I can only knowif I personally Field tested the device myself.

By the way, did you build, and test the cheap calculator, scotch taped on top of a cheap AM radio, that detects metal from a distance, as demonstrated on the link I posted. Is the concept a worthless scam Dowsing device, or does it work as described? Dell

[Qiaozhi]

Nope! I'm not saying that either. Like you, I have no way of knowing just by looking at it, and I have no ego to appease, or skeptic agenda to interfere.

But you do have a blind belief in the ancient mystical practice of dowsing, which is highly likely to cloud your judgment in these matters. The ideomotor effect is an interesting psychological phenomenon that has absolutely nothing to do with detecting treasure.

I would have to field test it to ascertain the facts. Unlike you, I have the experience, and field knowledge to know what to look for, and what type of testing would be appropriate. Dell

The blind man with the black bag on his head thinks otherwise.

[Qiaozhi]

It looks very similar to other LRL's developed, and built by Electronic Engineers, or Techs.

In other words, you're saying it's a scam device.

Because this device is being balanced in a horizontal position it could easily be moved by an ideomotor response.

More likely than not.

But the question, Is it? Even a bent coat coat hanger held in a human hand can react to, and even lock onto the surrounding "field" of a buried anomaly.

The so-called "locking on" is a figment of the imagination. There is no such thing as a signal line or buried anomaly.

Again, I have no way of knowing if that is what is happening, just by looking at a picture. I can only knowif I personally Field tested the device myself.

Try looking again on a foggy dark night. It might become clearer.

By the way, did you build, and test the cheap calculator, scotch taped on top of a cheap AM radio, that detects metal from a distance, as demonstrated on the link I posted. Is the concept a worthless scam Dowsing device, or does it work as described? Dell

Your calculator/radio-based metal detector has been posted on Geotech several times in the past. This is nothing new. It's basically a very inefficient BFO and is an interesting gimmick. It has absolutely no relationship to another device that has a cheap calculator glued on top of a doing-nothing box of electronics and fixed to a swivel handle, if that was your intimation.