GOLD ion detector...

[Theseus]

I have seen no live demonstration to suggest that any kind of ion detector can detect the ions that are released from corroding metals in the ground. Not positive, negative, or other kinds of ion charge detector. In fact, I have never heard any evidence that corroding metal ions in the soil can be detected from a distance with any electronic device that is held in the air without contacting the soil. The only buried metal ion detection that has been proven is to make a survey by taking many soil samples over a large area, then test these samples in a laboratory to determine the parts per trillion of gold ions to find where an anomaly exists. For other metals such as copper, lead or silver, the concentration of ions can be thousands of times greater.

Best wishes,
J_P

Based on this thread, and a few others, it seems the fact that "...never heard any evidence that corroding metal ions in the soil can be detected from a distance with any electronic device that is held in the air without contacting the soil.." is falling on deaf ears.

What a waste of time, energy and financial resources; chasing random beeps emitted by "edge-tuned high gain amplifiers".

The effort is akin to those keeping track of past Lotto drawings, and then believing there is some way to predict future drawings by studying the data. A time-consuming hobby but at the same time; An exercise in futility.

[Esteban]

Etc., etc., etc.

[Theseus]

Etc., etc., etc.

Oh well, I guess there are worse things you could be wasting your time on.

[Max]

Interesting theories. But is there any locator that detects these gold ions ?

The squid based amplifier DO

Some are currently used by the US army, exactly for this purpose...

Kind regards,
Max

[GOLDENSKULL]

Hi Max,

Did you build a workable LRL or other electrostatic detector ?

Did you get any result with building LRL or other electrostatic detector, yet ?

[Max]

Hi Max,

Did you build a workable LRL or other electrostatic detector ?

Did you get any result with building LRL or other electrostatic detector, yet ?

Best I've made is based on Dr. Best design: half a mile for a gold coin

Not so bad, but I think it can go much better and sensitivity can be pushed at least 1 order magnitude more (5miles)

Just electrostatic stuff I made but with poor or no results. You need to integrate stuff, the more signals you catch the more sensitive device become.

Multi-sensing is the key to successful LRL!

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Best I've made is based on Dr. Best design: half a mile for a gold coin

Not so bad, but I think it can go much better and sensitivity can be pushed at least 1 order magnitude more (5miles)

Just electrostatic stuff I made but with poor or no results. You need to integrate stuff, the more signals you catch the more sensitive device become.

Multi-sensing is the key to successful LRL!

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,
Which antenna option did you use on your Dr. Best based LRL design?
Was it the double spiral antenna, or the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna?
How did you avoid the horrors of massive gold ion migration that turns you into a gold statue?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Hi Max,
Which antenna option did you use on your Dr. Best based LRL design?
Was it the double spiral antenna, or the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna?
How did you avoid the horrors of massive gold ion migration that turns you into a gold statue?

Best wishes,
J_P

I used both as test, but prefer the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral cause it's more directive.

No ion migration occours, if you use insulant shoes (rubber stuff) and charge your body positive respect to the soil... the metal ions are then repelled and flow to the ion sensor at middle of antenna disc.

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

I used both as test, but prefer the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral cause it's more directive.

No ion migration occours, if you use insulant shoes (rubber stuff) and charge your body positive respect to the soil... the metal ions are then repelled and flow to the ion sensor at middle of antenna disc.

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max, Thanks for the tips.
Should I connect the positive terminal of the battery supply to my ear with an alligator clip to keep me safe?
Or should I carry a small Van De Graff generator to charge me positive?

Best wishes,
J_P

[mosha]

Hi Max, Thanks for the tips.
Should I connect the positive terminal of the battery supply to my ear with an alligator clip to keep me safe?
Or should I carry a small Van De Graff generator to charge me positive?

Best wishes,
J_P

Max & J_P

some mercy please, there are who will build Dr. Best based LRL design and implement your tips.

best wishes,
Mosha

[Max]

Hi Max, Thanks for the tips.
Should I connect the positive terminal of the battery supply to my ear with an alligator clip to keep me safe?
Or should I carry a small Van De Graff generator to charge me positive?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi,
it's very easy: you must use a solid state HV generator, around 5KV.

You must wear a conductive rubber bracelet (like in anti-static work) to the positive pole of generator.

The trick is at the shoes: you must put a conductive layer under your rubber shoes, like a fine metallic mesh and glue it down the bottom. Then with wires you'll connect the negative pole to the shoes, so the negative will be in contact with soil.

Remember: this works good if there's enough humidity and moisture in soil, otherwise you don't get good electrical contact.

If you follow that rules the gold ions will be easy repelled from your body and so sniffed by device handheld probe very easy.

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Hi,
it's very easy: you must use a solid state HV generator, around 5KV.

You must wear a conductive rubber bracelet (like in anti-static work) to the positive pole of generator.

The trick is at the shoes: you must put a conductive layer under your rubber shoes, like a fine metallic mesh and glue it down the bottom. Then with wires you'll connect the negative pole to the shoes, so the negative will be in contact with soil.

Remember: this works good if there's enough humidity and moisture in soil, otherwise you don't get good electrical contact.

If you follow that rules the gold ions will be easy repelled from your body and so sniffed by device handheld probe very easy.

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,
Thanks for the tips. I think I will attach stainless steel mesh to the bottom of my shoes using hot melt glue. The stainless steel should hold up well when climbing over rocks and trash. And the poor conductivity of staniless steel will not matter at 5Kv.
But I have one question:
Suppose I step on a nail that is pointing up from the ground, which penetrates my shoe and goes into my foot while I am detecting a large gold ion cloud hovering in the air in front of me. Will I change into a gold statue at that moment?

Best wishes,
J_P

[GOLDENSKULL]

Hi to all,

I complete my ion detector, and can detect TV emitted signals
from about 2 meter ... it is good isn't it ?!!!
I use telescopic antenna for this device...

I want know that,can i detect metal emitted ions by this device... ?

[Max]

Hi Max,
Thanks for the tips. I think I will attach stainless steel mesh to the bottom of my shoes using hot melt glue. The stainless steel should hold up well when climbing over rocks and trash. And the poor conductivity of staniless steel will not matter at 5Kv.
But I have one question:
Suppose I step on a nail that is pointing up from the ground, which penetrates my shoe and goes into my foot while I am detecting a large gold ion cloud hovering in the air in front of me. Will I change into a gold statue at that moment?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi,
yes, you can fix that using sturdy shoes, like I do, the kind used by workers inside construction sites... these shoes have extra safety bottom cause it's internally reinforced with a strong steel layer that virtually eliminate the danger of nails and other penetrating harmful bodies in the foot tissue.

So you'll not change into a gold statue, but you have to use device properly... e.g. don't walk over water or conductivity of it will make electrical contact appears between your skin and soil, thus discarging the 5KV potential at soil and let you be covered with eccess gold ions. Be careful , avoid too humid places.
Sometime dry is better...

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Hi to all,

I complete my ion detector, and can detect TV emitted signals
from about 2 meter ... it is good isn't it ?!!!
I use telescopic antenna for this device...

I want know that,can i detect metal emitted ions by this device... ?

If you are detecting TV emitted signals from 2 meters, this indicates your Dr, Best single chip LRL is working properly. Of course you can improve the detection distance when using the double spiral antenna with the flexible nonconductive wave guide. But the real improvement will come after you switch to using the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna. This advanced antenna will work even when the double spiral antenna is making random beeps, because it does not need to be placed in the middle of a treasure signal line like the double spiral or single spiral antenna.

Even with the telescopic antenna, you may find some treasure at close distance, but expect to find many random beeps that will cause you to dig hundreds of empty holes. If there is any large cloud of hovering metal ions in the air close in front of you, the Dr, Gest detector you built will find them. This is guaranteed. But if there is a metal ion cloud floating in the distance, then you will probably not find it using a telescopic antenna. Also you will not be able to discriminate. It will beep the same for TV signals as for electric fence or large gold ion cloud in the air. Maybe it is time to make improvements to your antenna.

Remember to be careful when near metal ions clouds.... read Max's tips above.

Best wishes,
J_P