rangertell examiner field trials

[Theseus]

So how far away from the object do you have to be? i can place a small nuggett 6 feet away on top of the ground and tell myself the nuggett is not there and the RT cannot pick it up...what is this gobbledegook about magnetic interference? at 6 feet in plain view on top of the ground? it is all in the head!!! no amount of scientific testing will bypass the fact that results are only achieved unless the operator "tells" the aerial to lock onto something. Target field of strength has absolutely nothing to do with it since i thought i found a quartz reef at 3-400 meters yet cannot find a simple nuggett or coin(s) six feet away. The last time i went back to relocate my quartz reef it was not there someone had obviously stolen it. My precious nuggett is still lost somewhere in my lounge room where the Mrs. cannot remember where she put it last(to be located by me) however i did find some coin and pins and buttons stuffed deep down in a couple of lounge chairs, found with my fingers not the RT by the way. JP is going to waste his time trying to replicate results he gets because the device does not do a thing. his head will be doing everything. Just remeber JP the early models came out without calculators stuck on top so according to Blanes they work quite well with no settings required. Now you are left with a snivelling swivelling aerial that you are going to watch going round and round and round and round and round while Blanes is laughing his head off in the comfort of his home, another sucker to lead by the nose because he knows the whole contraption is just so much Junk and his only aim is to protect his income and bank balance. 1300 RT's by average $600 equals $780,000. Rather good pocket money. There are two reasons why i have not published the results of 300 hours of testing on this site. Firstly they may be used in the future in legal proceedings. Secondly, I did not want obviously well educated persons on this site laughing at the absolute stupidity and gull;ibility that led me to buy such a ridiculously stupid device. Nothing can be proved with the device aother than it can do anything that your head allows it to do. Point it at a rock lock on...point it at a rock do not lock on, it does not lock on. point it at a mountainside tell it to lock on and it does..mountain must be full of emeralds and rubies from the Inca days. Tell it not to lock on and it does not...someone must have crept into the mountain while you were having a smoke and stole all the inca treasure. Garbage and drivel and more garbage this device is a product of a very sick mind...go back to the language that Blanes used in the past in the interests of customer service...he is very obviously a sick man, not just a con artist but a very sick paranoid. His help desk is where he invents ideas to keep you strung out till you give up...the device is not working because..the atmospherics , the ground, other minerals in the area, your body, calculator settings ..even your attitude!! he can string you out for longer than you as a rational person can handle it and you give up and he keeps your money, our money. His day has come he will be on national TV here in Australia it is just a matter of time. He is going to join all the other scam artists that lack normal human conscience and dwell in the realm of the animal kingdom.

Once again, thank you for your experiences and honest feedback.

I have to wonder if the stringing along hasn't already begun, in the case of J_Player not able to begin formal testing until he gets the go-ahead that his Examiner is not faulty or damaged. I mean, if you think about it, Blanes could keep saying the unit is damaged or faulty and that it should be sent back to him for replacement; and he could keep doing this essentially forever. Or, at least to the point that J_P gets tired of sending them back and forth. Of course each time he sends them back, that eats up no doubt another month easy.

How many of these alleged customers do you suppose went to the trouble of checking first with Blanes to make sure their unit was not damaged or faulty? I'm guessing NONE!

Stay on this, Hipopp. Don't let him (V. Blanes) off the hook.

[J_Player]

Once again, thank you for your experiences and honest feedback.

I have to wonder if the stringing along hasn't already begun, in the case of J_Player not able to begin formal testing until he gets the go-ahead that his Examiner is not faulty or damaged. I mean, if you think about it, Blanes could keep saying the unit is damaged or faulty and that it should be sent back to him for replacement; and he could keep doing this essentially forever. Or, at least to the point that J_P gets tired of sending them back and forth. Of course each time he sends them back, that eats up no doubt another month easy.

How many of these alleged customers do you suppose went to the trouble of checking first with Blanes to make sure their unit was not damaged or faulty? I'm guessing NONE!

Stay on this, Hipopp. Don't let him (V. Blanes) off the hook.

Hi Theseus,

"Stringing along"..?
So we must interject motives because there is a delay?
As I recall you were among several who decided Rangertell would not send a sample to test before it was sent. And now you are speculating that they could continue claiming replacements are faulty until until I get tired of sending them back and forth. I suppose they could, but why should I suspect that will happen? I don't even know if the one I have is faulty or not yet.

I have no reason to form opinions about Rangertell's motives. As I recall, your conclusions were incorrect about them in the past, and now you are making conclusions of what will happen in scenarios that do not exist at present. So far, Rangertell did not do what several skeptics predicted during his dealings with me.

The facts are Rangertell was notified one or two days before Christmas to look at some test results, and he was unable to download some large files to look at the results. After several failed attempts, I did not hear from them again (at least not yet). But then, we're in the middle of the season where most English-speaking people are busy with holiday activities, or on trips to visit friends and family, etc.

Before I speculate that there is any particular concealed motive other than "too busy to get to it at the moment", I am assuming the process will continue after holiday season is over and people are back to business. One thing I won't do is to be rushed. I have time invested into the test program that I watch closely to avoid wasting too much of it. I have plenty of things to keep me busy until I hear back from Ragertell. Timing will not become important to me until I set dates for actual test events. Then I will need to take measures to insure the schedule is kept.

But in the case of people who are simply watching, there is no investment of time or effort.
You can simply watch like you watch a TV program, or turn it off when there's nothing interesting happening.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Hi J_P

as I understand, you do not trust the instructions attached to Rangertell?

Or you do not trust your ability to understand instructions and taken it into account?

Would you also tested the eyeglasses in such way: that you would not dare to look through glasses, until your optical rangertell would not have acknowledged that you have read the instructions properly?

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

as I understand, you do not trust the instructions attached to Rangertell?

Or you do not trust your ability to understand instructions and taken it into account?

Would you also tested the eyeglasses in such way: that you would not dare to look through glasses, until your optical rangertell would not have acknowledged that you have read the instructions properly?

Hi WM6,
I have no issues with trust for the Rangertell instructions. I see them as instructions that are suggested to get the best results when using the Examiner. It is true I do not understand all the concepts that are published in the Rangertell instructions. But this will not stop me from following these instructions.

I do not use eyeglasses, so I never read the instructions for eyeglasses, and I don't know how eyeglass instructions will impact the Examiner.
The times when I tried borrowed eyeglasses, I couldn't see very well.
The only exception is when I use sunglasses. I can see better when wearing sunglasses in the bright sunlight.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

So how far away from the object do you have to be? i can place a small nuggett 6 feet away on top of the ground and tell myself the nuggett is not there and the RT cannot pick it up...what is this gobbledegook about magnetic interference? at 6 feet in plain view on top of the ground? it is all in the head!!! no amount of scientific testing will bypass the fact that results are only achieved unless the operator "tells" the aerial to lock onto something. Target field of strength has absolutely nothing to do with it since i thought i found a quartz reef at 3-400 meters yet cannot find a simple nuggett or coin(s) six feet away. The last time i went back to relocate my quartz reef it was not there someone had obviously stolen it. My precious nuggett is still lost somewhere in my lounge room where the Mrs. cannot remember where she put it last(to be located by me) however i did find some coin and pins and buttons stuffed deep down in a couple of lounge chairs, found with my fingers not the RT by the way. JP is going to waste his time trying to replicate results he gets because the device does not do a thing. his head will be doing everything. Just remeber JP the early models came out without calculators stuck on top so according to Blanes they work quite well with no settings required. Now you are left with a snivelling swivelling aerial that you are going to watch going round and round and round and round and round while Blanes is laughing his head off in the comfort of his home, another sucker to lead by the nose because he knows the whole contraption is just so much Junk and his only aim is to protect his income and bank balance. 1300 RT's by average $600 equals $780,000. Rather good pocket money. There are two reasons why i have not published the results of 300 hours of testing on this site. Firstly they may be used in the future in legal proceedings. Secondly, I did not want obviously well educated persons on this site laughing at the absolute stupidity and gull;ibility that led me to buy such a ridiculously stupid device. Nothing can be proved with the device aother than it can do anything that your head allows it to do. Point it at a rock lock on...point it at a rock do not lock on, it does not lock on. point it at a mountainside tell it to lock on and it does..mountain must be full of emeralds and rubies from the Inca days. Tell it not to lock on and it does not...someone must have crept into the mountain while you were having a smoke and stole all the inca treasure. Garbage and drivel and more garbage this device is a product of a very sick mind...go back to the language that Blanes used in the past in the interests of customer service...he is very obviously a sick man, not just a con artist but a very sick paranoid. His help desk is where he invents ideas to keep you strung out till you give up...the device is not working because..the atmospherics , the ground, other minerals in the area, your body, calculator settings ..even your attitude!! he can string you out for longer than you as a rational person can handle it and you give up and he keeps your money, our money. His day has come he will be on national TV here in Australia it is just a matter of time. He is going to join all the other scam artists that lack normal human conscience and dwell in the realm of the animal kingdom.

Hipopp, I cannot disagree with your assessment of the Ranger Tell Examiner. I have personally never used, or field tested one. If I were to evaluate the Examiner, I would probably be far less impartial than J Player is being only because I have had many years of Treasure Hunting Field experience and comparative testing of LRL's, so I already know the differences in performances, what to expect, how they should function, and the conditions and limitations in which they will, or will not function accurately, or at all.

I don't put much stock in advertising hype.

I can only speak from my own experience. First and foremost, is that LRL's are dumb, stupid, devices. They have no intelligence of their own. Any of them, including my own will only be as good as the intelligence, knowledge, experience, and sometimes luck of the person operating it.

My own products are totally dependent on the success, and satisfaction of my customers. Informing costumers of a products limitations, BEFORE they buy, so the consumer does not have Un-realistic expectations is all important. Apparently this didn't happen in your case, and for that I can sympathize with your predicament.

From the photo of the Examiner, and the swivel handle, I can see where it would be very easy to mentally influence the direction the Examiner points by tilting the hand one way , or other, via a sub-conscious ideomotor muscle response. This can take some learning to overcome, but it is not to say the examiner does not detect, or discriminate the "field" of a target. I don't know. I would have to conduct my own tests.

I can state with assurance, and from experience, there are conditions when any LRL, electronic, or non-electronic, will function poorly, or not at all, and that includes the ones I make. Always use a test target, and keep checking the strength of Field. It does not matter if you are checking from 1 foot away, or 30 feet away. If you don't detect the test target, you won't detect an unknown target.

You are already ahead of the Skeptics on this forum. They claim LRL operators will always detect a visible test target, but never a hidden or unknown target. It appears that has not been your experience, and it's certainly not mine.

I'm truly sorry your experience with the Ranger Tell company, or their product has been an unpleasant one. Dell

[J_Player]

...From the photo of the Examiner, and the swivel handle, I can see where it would be very easy to mentally influence the direction the Examiner points by tilting the hand one way , or other, via a sub-conscious ideomotor muscle response. This can take some learning to overcome, but it is not to say the examiner does not detect, or discriminate the "field" of a target. I don't know. I would have to conduct my own tests.

Hi Dell,
Hung made a modification to his Examiner to improve it by stopping the swivelling action at the handle.
This is an easy modification to make in the field.

You are already ahead of the Skeptics on this forum. They claim LRL operators will always detect a visible test target, but never a hidden or unknown target. It appears that has not been your experience, and it's certainly not mine...

This is your chance to show everyone that what you say is the truth with live videos instead of just talk. I have a new Examiner that you can use when we hide targets for you to locate. You can also locate them with your other tools that you have experience with. I am sure there will be some time during the day when we will find conditions are not deteriorated to make detection impossible.

Should I make arrangements for you to conduct LRL tests during the test program for the Rangertell Examiner?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi Dell,

This is your chance to show everyone that what you say is the truth with live videos instead of just talk.
Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
What are you mean?????
To send a video....... and what with it???????
We know the rest
Video is fraud.... there was magnet... or transmiter near the device signals was erratic etc..

I am sure you understand what i mean!!

Regards

[Dell Winders]

That sounds interesting, Does that mean that all expenses are paid, and some compensation for the pain I will have to endure to make a trip in my present condition? Dell

[J_Player]

Hi J_P.
What are you mean?????
To send a video....... and what with it???????
We know the rest
Video is fraud.... there was magnet... or transmiter near the device signals was erratic etc..

I am sure you understand what i mean!!

Regards

Hi Geo,
I saw what happened after your testing of the Alonso PD. I helped to get those videos released and shown so anyone who wants can see them. I remember how most people had a strong opinion of whether they were good tests or not, but none of the people complaining went to where Morgan was testing and make their own tests except you.

But I am not Morgan. I really don't care what people say about videos I make. If people say my videos prove nothing, that's find with me. My purpose is not to prove anything. It is only to show what I saw for people who could not be here. I strongly suggest that anyone who wants to see a particular test done with the Examiner should make arrangements to come to Southern California and test out this new Examiner. See for yourself... don't rely on somebody else's video of a test you did not see in person. Run your own test. Hold it in your hand. See for yourself if it finds treasure or not.

Tell me Geo...
When you went to the Morgan demonstration and used the PD in your own hands, did you get the feeling that you know for sure how well the PD works?

Or do you think you can tell how well the PD works just as well from watching the video... and it was a waste of your time and money to go to try it out with your own hands?



P.S. Anyone who wants to try out the Examiner can send me a PM and I will make arrangements.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

That sounds interesting, Does that mean that all expenses are paid, and some compensation for the pain I will have to endure to make a trip in my present condition? Dell

Hi Dell,
I don't know if it means all that you said. Maybe I can give you an answer if you explain what is involved.

At present, I am taking time away from a profitable business and losing income to make tests as a public service with no compensation. This is my own decision to spend part of my time learning something in the field instead of earning money. I figure that as long as it doesn't cost anything extra, I can also share all that I see with others who aren't here to see what I see in the field tests.

But to answer your question about "all expenses paid "and "compensation for the pain", I would need to have some idea of how much money worth of pain you are talking about, and how much the expenses will total.

For example, if your pain is alleviated with a free lunch, I can handle that.

But I have no clue what expenses you are asking me to pay for. Does "all expenses" include a chauffeured limousine from Florida along with an extra emergency vehicle following with medical supplies to assist with whatever condition is causing the pain? Will I need to pay for hospital visits along the way and surgery?

Hmmm... Are you able to walk?
If not, then maybe it is not a good idea for you to attempt to test the Examiner. I read that health can be a factor in getting good results with the examiner. (You are right-handed, aren't you)?

If you can give me a dollar amount, I can give you a yes or no about paying your way.

Best wishes,
J_P

[g-sani]

One thing I cannot understand about all this is the behaviour from rangertell to ask J_P to wait them to confirm if the examiner used was a faulty one or not.
If I was a potential buyer many bad things could come up to my mind and as you understand not in favour of rangertell and their products.
It is like if they want to disadvertise their products the way they behave in such a situation.
In the other hand another thing suprises me in their favour this time.
It is so many people that bought their lrls but it is very difficult to find a secondhand one on sale in the web.

[hipopp]

blanes finally decent? no way...

rangertell (blanes) is on its best behaviour since finding out they will be on national TV here in australia. I suspect JPLAYER was sent a free to try RT to make them look good. look back over their sick responses to the general public on this forum and they haver undergone a massive change of heart. JPLAYER i am sure you will be strung out with the RT not being calibrated properly send it back trick or your body mass exudes onerous bi-frequencies interfering in the tri-frequencies fed back from the gravitational pull of Sirius on my Dog's hind quarters thus nullifying your testing protocols. And you can keep returning the device to swap for a better one untill your bank account cannot keep up with the postage. Mr. blanes has all the time in the world to fob you off. you have my support if you need it for tests to double check any findings. The reason you will not find any of these RT's on ebay second hand for sale is because the owners in all conscience would not dupe any unsuspecting purchaser like blanes does without conscience.

[Fred]

One thing I cannot understand about all this is the behaviour from rangertell to ask J_P to wait them to confirm if the examiner used was a faulty one or not.

I don´t think this is rangertell decision, but more like J_P´s one to be sure his tests are valid.

[osman]

Hi Geo,
I saw what happened after your testing of the Alonso PD. I helped to get those videos released and shown so anyone who wants can see them. I remember how most people had a strong opinion of whether they were good tests or not, but none of the people complaining went to where Morgan was testing and make their own tests except you.

But I am not Morgan. I really don't care what people say about videos I make. If people say my videos prove nothing, that's find with me. My purpose is not to prove anything. It is only to show what I saw for people who could not be here. I strongly suggest that anyone who wants to see a particular test done with the Examiner should make arrangements to come to Southern California and test out this new Examiner. See for yourself... don't rely on somebody else's video of a test you did not see in person. Run your own test. Hold it in your hand. See for yourself if it finds treasure or not.

Tell me Geo...
When you went to the Morgan demonstration and used the PD in your own hands, did you get the feeling that you know for sure how well the PD works?

Or do you think you can tell how well the PD works just as well from watching the video... and it was a waste of your time and money to go to try it out with your own hands?



P.S. Anyone who wants to try out the Examiner can send me a PM and I will make arrangements.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi j player

proposal; test sample, a piece of copper for 1 kg or higher,
-Even the most novice person, can be easily detected.
-signal strength is directly proportional to weight.
-test area, excluding the signals may occur.

Best wishes
osman

[Theseus]

Hi Theseus,

"Stringing along"..?
So we must interject motives because there is a delay?
As I recall you were among several who decided Rangertell would not send a sample to test before it was sent. And now you are speculating that they could continue claiming replacements are faulty until until I get tired of sending them back and forth. I suppose they could, but why should I suspect that will happen? I don't even know if the one I have is faulty or not yet.
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Best wishes,
J_P

Yes, I'm speculating. And, I'm basing my speculations on past history and how VB thinks.

I'm not the only one here that is not as trusting of him, as you seem to be.

I'm all for giving him a chance, and giving the Examiner a fair chance too; but it's really hard to ignore what he's said, what he's lied about and where we've been before getting to this point.