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  • Originally posted by Fred View Post
    Hi G-sani,
    I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
    You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
    But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
    As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.
    Fred, I never wrote the tests I made in everyplace because the results are interesting me more.
    Well it is sure that my other LRL(freq. generator) holds a technical proof since it gives me numbers on a meter when the material in search is present.
    Sorry I can not help in that since I don't know how it is been made or in what principle it is based.Simply I don't care and I am busy digging targets instead of trying to see why it works.Apart from that I don't want to open it.
    The only thing I can say is that whenever gave us a target we found it and proved right using our rods to follow the signal to the target.
    Of course someone can say that may be there are times that it gives us nothing and may be the material in search exists in some place and we never know it.Well this holds truth and I have to admit it.
    But then how can always proved right when the receiving signal gives as a meter reading?
    Now when it comes to examiner I have to see it first, I cannot say anything yet but let me ask you something.
    If it works for example that means I have dowsing abillities?
    Well it is only me I can judge that and the only thing I can do for you is to let you know.
    Believe me or not is a different story.
    Since the beggining of time humans discovered many things just by experimenting and without knowing always the explaination behind them.
    Of course some of them hold technical proofs but do you think that we always know it from the beggining?
    Or is that a reason to stop using them? We understand things different as time passes by and we always adjust accordingly.
    Weakness of understanting the technical point of view of a working LRL shouldn't stop us using it.
    This is completely different policy than the one of skeptics.
    Whatever they don't understand they say that it is not working and they will never try it themselves.

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    • Originally posted by g-sani
      Check out my backpack J_P.
      LRL is inside!

      Hi g-sani,

      Yes, I see excellent view of the LRL inside your backpack. But I don't see your pocket fisherman.
      The pocket fisherman is small, but it finds big fish. Not only for finding goldfish.
      --- Can catch a big fish good for breakfast and for lunch too!

      Watch video again and see the big fish at the end of the video.



      Also, Mr. Stick LRL can be modified for catching fish too, but is not as good for recovering big fish as the Pocket Fisherman.
      Good news is you only need to take Mr. Stick... no extra LRL needed!

      Best wishes,
      J_P
      Attached Files

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      • Originally posted by g-sani View Post
        A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.
        If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
        But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
        Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
        Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
        Do you want to know why?
        There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.
        Whatever..... I can see your mind is made up, and there is nothing I'm going to say that will change it in any way.

        Good luck with your Intuition Indicator. Believe me; a bent piece of wire will do the same thing for you.

        The Wallet-Miner's Creed
        Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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        • Appears Fishing is more Fun than Testing

          Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

          ...wonder what happened to that little venture?

          The Wallet-Miner's Creed
          Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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          • Originally posted by Theseus
            Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

            ...wonder what happened to that little venture?
            I don't have time for fishing.
            It is where I would be if I wasn't stuck in an office for so many hours.

            That little venture is in the same stage of progress as I stated in numerous posts above. Currently I am waiting for people to send me a PM to come and try it out with their own hands. But nobody responded. I contacted 4 Geotech forum members in my local area, and found that all four of them declined to do any testing on the Examiner, even if I came to where they are located so they could conveniently perform tests.

            At present, after trying to locate known targets with the Examiner adjusted at the factory settings, and re-adjusted to different settings, I have concluded that I am a person who is biologically impaired, and cannot perform a scientific test on an Examiner even if it is tuned perfectly. Without a person who has "normal biological signals", I cannot make an accurate adjustment of the trimmer cap.

            I have no questions other than to ask if anyone wants to try it out in thie Los Angeles area and see if they can find good response with it after making their best adjustments at the controls. If you have suggestions of how you think I should proceed next, I would be interested in hearing them.

            Best wishes,
            J_P

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            • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
              That little venture is in the same stage of progress as I stated in numerous posts above. Currently I am waiting for people to send me a PM to come and try it out with their own hands. But nobody responded. I contacted 4 Geotech forum members in my local area, and found that four of them declined to do any testing on the Examiner, even if I came to where they are located so they could conveniently perform tests.

              At present. After trying to locate known targets with the Examiner adjusted at the factory settings, and re-adjusted to different settings, I have concluded that I am a person who is biologically impaired, and cannot perform a scientific test on an Examiner even if it is tuned perfectly. Without a person who has "normal biological signals", I cannot make an accurate adjustment of the trimmer cap.

              I have no questions other than to ask if anyone wants to try it out in thie Los Angeles area and see if they can find good response with it after making their best adjustments at the controls. If you have suggestions of how you think I should proceed next, I would be interested in hearing them.

              Best wishes,
              J_P
              I would like to offer something constructive here. Could we start with you explaining to me (and anyone else the could help) exactly what you mean by... and how you determined.... you were biologically impaired? What, exactly are normal biological signals? Can you get a standard L-rod to respond to targets in plain sight? I can, and I've found very few who can't get that kind of response. Maybe that's not the response you are talking about... please enlighten me.

              There must have been something in the information you received from R-T that is different from the advertising I've seen. I was under the impression the Examiner was STRICTLY a electronic device, thus any and all reactions had nothing to do with the operator or the characteristics of the operator.

              Now obviously I've gotten a wrong impression, so I wish you could refer me to the public information that states it WILL NOT work if the operator has certain characteristics or attributes. And, what about members of your immediate family? A son, a daughter or perhaps your wife? Maybe a sister or brother, aunt or uncle. Have they also been determined to be biologically impaired?

              Also, I'm really surprised that forum members in your immediate area would not be willing to give it a try. Unfortunate indeed. If I was that close, you can bet I would have tried it.

              Thanks for the update....

              The Wallet-Miner's Creed
              Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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              • Originally posted by Theseus View Post
                I would like to offer something constructive here. Could we start with you explaining to me (and anyone else the could help) exactly what you mean by... and how you determined.... you were biologically impaired? What, exactly are normal biological signals? Can you get a standard L-rod to respond to targets in plain sight? I can, and I've found very few who can't get that kind of response. Maybe that's not the response you are talking about... please enlighten me.

                There must have been something in the information you received from R-T that is different from the advertising I've seen. I was under the impression the Examiner was STRICTLY a electronic device, thus any and all reactions had nothing to do with the operator or the characteristics of the operator.

                Now obviously I've gotten a wrong impression, so I wish you could refer me to the public information that states it WILL NOT work if the operator has certain characteristics or attributes. And, what about members of your immediate family? A son, a daughter or perhaps your wife? Maybe a sister or brother, aunt or uncle. Have they also been determined to be biologically impaired?

                Also, I'm really surprised that forum members in your immediate area would not be willing to give it a try. Unfortunate indeed. If I was that close, you can bet I would have tried it.

                Thanks for the update....


                hi Theseus

                a long time, it hangs.
                I tried yesterday, where a very wet much, I received an incorrect signal.
                little thing, turned to the left.
                was better, now does not find the stone.
                What do you suggest?


                good work. osman

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                • [quote = Theseus; 107.906] Ben burada yapıcı bir şey sunmak istiyorum. Sizinle benim için (ve herkesten yardımcı olabilir) tam olarak ne demek istediğinizi açıklayan başlayabileceğini ... ve nasıl belirlenir .... were you biyolojik engelli? Ne, tam olarak normal biyolojik sinyaller? Standart bir L alabilir miyim-hedefler düz görme yanıt için çubuk? I can, ve çok az olan tepkisi bu tür can't get bulduk. Belki de bahsediyorsun sen cevap değil ... Beni aydınlatmak edebilirsiniz.

                  Orada RT o I've seen reklam farklıdır alınan bilgi bir şey olmalıdır. Ben Examiner KESİNLİKLE bir elektronik cihaz, böylece her türlü reaksiyonlar operatörü veya operatörün özellikleri ile ilgisi vardı izlenim altındaydı.

                  Şimdi açıkça ben de size genel bilgiler eğer operatör bazı özellikleri veya özniteliklerine devletlerin o değil iş OLACAKTIR beni bakın isterdim yanlış bir izlenim gotten ettik. Ve sizin yakın aile üyeleri ne olacak? Bir oğlu, bir kızı ya da belki senin karın? Belki bir kız veya erkek kardeşi, halası veya amcası. Onlar da belirlenmiştir biyolojik engelli mi?

                  Ayrıca, ben gerçekten sizin yakın bölgede forum üyeleri bunu denemeye istekli olmayacağını şaşırttı. Gerçekten Unfortunate. Eğer bu yakın olduğunu, bunu denedim olurdu bahse girebilirsiniz.

                  Güncelleme için teşekkürler ....[/ quote]

                  [quote = osman; 107.908]hi Theseus

                  uzun bir süre, duruyor. Dün, burada çok fazla ıslak, ben yanlış bir sinyal aldı çalıştı.
                  küçük şey, sola döndü.
                  daha iyi, şimdi taş bulamaz oldu.
                  Ne tavsiye edersiniz?

                  iyi iş. osman[/ quote]


                  merhaba resim eklemek değil thesus.
                  bahsediyorum.lütfen yardımdan goldbeam

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                  • Originally posted by Theseus
                    I would like to offer something constructive here. Could we start with you explaining to me (and anyone else the could help) exactly what you mean by... and how you determined.... you were biologically impaired? What, exactly are normal biological signals? Can you get a standard L-rod to respond to targets in plain sight? I can, and I've found very few who can't get that kind of response. Maybe that's not the response you are talking about... please enlighten me.
                    How I determined I am biologically impaired?
                    Well, that's a long story, starting back in the days when I worked with high voltage, and was accidentally electrohuted due to a careless person who did not connect the grounding straps before we went in to service the power equipment. Luckily, I survived, but I had nerve damage to my right arm, which was first to touch the high voltage conductor. My right arm is working ok now, but the nerves in that arm are not the same as they were before this accident. It is only my speculated opinion that there is some biological impairment due to the nerve damage that occurred in the right arm. The doctor only diagnosed nerve damage, not biological impairment. If there is a licensed biologist or medical doctor in Geotech, then maybe they could contribute some insight into whether this injury could constitute "biological impairment".

                    The second way I can explain how I concluded I am biologically impared, came from an observation I made when an aquaintance tried the examiner to see if it would point to a sample placed where he could see it. After over an hour of trying it out, we discovered that when he set the sensitivity to a certain setting, then he observed it pointing toward the treasure nearly every time when he walked past it, but when I tried it at the exact same setting, it seldom pointed toward the target. The difference I noted are historical facts, but the method was subjective. So There is no scientific basis to prove anything based on what we observed, unless a large amount of other people were also to perform the same routine as we did to provide a meaningful statistical basis.

                    In answer to your question, I have never gotten any response whatsoever from standard L-rod, other than a coat hanger wire L-rod tends to swing toward the direction of a magnet that is held in close proximity.

                    Finally, there are countless hours of making adjustments and more adjustments, without seeing any notable changes in performance when I tried to locate a known target. Of course, the nerve damage to my right arm, and observing a significant difference in response between me and another preson who has no nerve damage does not prove I am biologically impaired. But it is the conclusion I arrived at for the purposes of testsing. So I am relying on others to come try it and see if it works, because I can't be able to insure valid tests on my own. This also works out well because I really need to be holding a camera to show exactly what is seen during the tests. I am probably more proficient than most people operating a camera, and I know what the forum members want to see in a video.

                    Originally posted by Theseus
                    Also, I'm really surprised that forum members in your immediate area would not be willing to give it a try. Unfortunate indeed. If I was that close, you can bet I would have tried it.
                    I am surprised too.
                    I would have thought everyone would be anxious to get a shot at it without needing to send in their cash first. But all declined. Hopefully, g-sani will keep his Examiner to let other Greek treasure hunters try it out regardless of what kind of response he finds. (Maybe nobody in Greece besides Geo will want to try it out, same as happened here)
                    Originally posted by Theseus
                    There must have been something in the information you received from R-T that is different from the advertising I've seen. I was under the impression the Examiner was STRICTLY a electronic device, thus any and all reactions had nothing to do with the operator or the characteristics of the operator.
                    Now obviously I've gotten a wrong impression, so I wish you could refer me to the public information that states it WILL NOT work if the operator has certain characteristics or attributes. And, what about members of your immediate family? A son, a daughter or perhaps your wife? Maybe a sister or brother, aunt or uncle. Have they also been determined to be biologically impaired?
                    None of my relatives touched a high voltage conductor that caused nerve damage in their right arm, nor did I have occasion to send them to a doctor to determine whether there is nerve damage to thier right arm or whether they are biologically impaired.

                    You are mistaken. All of what is in the instruction manual is posted for all the public to see except for some proprietary key code sequences.

                    The Examiner is not a strictly electronic device. According to what is published, it is an electronic device that operates in conjuction with electromagnatic signals originating at the target, electromagnetic signals originating at the calculator, and biological signals originating from the body of the user. Furthermore, the user must be standing on the ground (earth ground) in order to complete the circuit that allows detection of a target. Of course you know this if you read the public literature. Here are some public references that you can read to this effect, as well as some little known facts from a "Geotech expert" on the Rangertell Examiner:

                    Examiner facts posted by the Rangertell factory:
                    "Your body is a major component in the use of these instruments. It literally becomes part of the receiving component due to that fact that your body has an electrical charge which in turn emits an electromagnetic field or flux around it. The polarities around the body were determined by R-T using an Examiner tuned to the body frequency (between 6 and 7Hz)..."


                    "The left side of the body and thus hand is much weaker electromagnetically than the right. You can also prove this by holding the electrodes of a multimeter and measuring the millivolts holding the electrodes one way then the other.There is a marked difference as you have reversed the polarities and can now see the flow of electricity in millivolts through both sides of the body".


                    "the Examiner makes use of resonance techniques and longitudinal wave coupling to boost the energy to a level necessary for long range detection. The human component is also an essential part of the design". http://www.rangertell.com/frequently...uestions-a.htm

                    "...Out of about 1000 units sold very few users have returned it and received a refund due to anything but mechanical reasons. Health and difficult left-handedness have been the only factors". http://www.rangertell.com/faq.html

                    Geotech forum member contribution to a Rangertell website:
                    "...The human component is also an essential part of the design. Just as a tuning fork..."


                    Advanced Rangertell facts from Mike(Mont):
                    ...you want to be several feet away from the target. If you are too close, your energy field will interact with the target's field and you won't feel it...
                    ...Typically the beginner is going to have mental interference. This might be more than you can overcome, so you are going to have to work hard at eliminating negative thoughts and doubts. If you can get the meditation down, your mind will be still and it won't be "your own worst enemy".


                    Advanced Rangetell facts from Dr. hung:
                    "This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned".


                    "The Examiner is clearly a radionic device".


                    The final clue is where Dr. hung accidentally tells us his secret discovery of a substance produced by gold DNA:
                    This anti-oxidation substance that coats gold metal is important to those who theorize the new calculator key codes Dr. hung uses are actually detecting the genetic makeup of this DNA-produced substance, not the gold metal that is hidden beneath the coating.
                    "Gold is the most powerful 'self defensive' metal when it comes to avoid any harm to its structure, such as rust, oxidation, etc. Its DNA produces a substance which coats the metal to fight against those 'threats'"


                    With your constructive motive in mind, how do you think I should proceed?

                    Best wishes,
                    J_P

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                    • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                      How I determined I am biologically impaired?
                      Well, that's a long story, starting back in the days when I worked with high voltage, and was accidentally electrohuted due to a careless person who did not connect the grounding straps before we went in to service the power equipment. Luckily, I survived, but I had nerve damage to my right arm, which was first to touch the high voltage conductor. My right arm is working ok now, but the nerves in that arm are not the same as they were before this accident. It is only my speculated opinion that there is some biological impairment due to the nerve damage that occurred in the right arm. The doctor only diagnosed nerve damage, not biological impairment. If there is a licensed biologist or medical doctor in Geotech, then maybe they could contribute some insight into whether this injury could constitute "biological impairment".

                      The second way I can explain how I concluded I am biologically impared, came from an observation I made when an aquaintance tried the examiner to see if it would point to a sample placed where he could see it. After over an hour of trying it out, we discovered that when he set the sensitivity to a certain setting, then he observed it pointing toward the treasure nearly every time when he walked past it, but when I tried it at the exact same setting, it seldom pointed toward the target. The difference I noted are historical facts, but the method was subjective. So There is no scientific basis to prove anything based on what we observed, unless a large amount of other people were also to perform the same routine as we did to provide a meaningful statistical basis.

                      In answer to your question, I have never gotten any response whatsoever from standard L-rod, other than a coat hanger wire L-rod tends to swing toward the direction of a magnet that is held in close proximity.

                      Finally, there are countless hours of making adjustments and more adjustments, without seeing any notable changes in performance when I tried to locate a known target. Of course, the nerve damage to my right arm, and observing a significant difference in response between me and another preson who has no nerve damage does not prove I am biologically impaired. But it is the conclusion I arrived at for the purposes of testsing. So I am relying on others to come try it and see if it works, because I can't be able to insure valid tests on my own. This also works out well because I really need to be holding a camera to show exactly what is seen during the tests. I am probably more proficient than most people operating a camera, and I know what the forum members want to see in a video.

                      I am surprised too.
                      I would have thought everyone would be anxious to get a shot at it without needing to send in their cash first. But all declined. Hopefully, g-sani will keep his Examiner to let other Greek treasure hunters try it out regardless of what kind of response he finds. (Maybe nobody in Greece besides Geo will want to try it out, same as happened here)
                      None of my relatives touched a high voltage conductor that caused nerve damage in their right arm, nor did I have occasion to send them to a doctor to determine whether there is nerve damage to thier right arm or whether they are biologically impaired.

                      You are mistaken. All of what is in the instruction manual is posted for all the public to see except for some proprietary key code sequences.

                      The Examiner is not a strictly electronic device. According to what is published, it is an electronic device that operates in conjuction with electromagnatic signals originating at the target, electromagnetic signals originating at the calculator, and biological signals originating from the body of the user. Furthermore, the user must be standing on the ground (earth ground) in order to complete the circuit that allows detection of a target. Of course you know this if you read the public literature. Here are some public references that you can read to this effect, as well as some little known facts from a "Geotech expert" on the Rangertell Examiner:

                      Examiner facts posted by the Rangertell factory:
                      "Your body is a major component in the use of these instruments. It literally becomes part of the receiving component due to that fact that your body has an electrical charge which in turn emits an electromagnetic field or flux around it. The polarities around the body were determined by R-T using an Examiner tuned to the body frequency (between 6 and 7Hz)..."


                      "The left side of the body and thus hand is much weaker electromagnetically than the right. You can also prove this by holding the electrodes of a multimeter and measuring the millivolts holding the electrodes one way then the other.There is a marked difference as you have reversed the polarities and can now see the flow of electricity in millivolts through both sides of the body".


                      "the Examiner makes use of resonance techniques and longitudinal wave coupling to boost the energy to a level necessary for long range detection. The human component is also an essential part of the design". http://www.rangertell.com/frequently...uestions-a.htm

                      "...Out of about 1000 units sold very few users have returned it and received a refund due to anything but mechanical reasons. Health and difficult left-handedness have been the only factors". http://www.rangertell.com/faq.html

                      Geotech forum member contribution to a Rangertell website:
                      "...The human component is also an essential part of the design. Just as a tuning fork..."


                      Advanced Rangertell facts from Mike(Mont):
                      ...you want to be several feet away from the target. If you are too close, your energy field will interact with the target's field and you won't feel it...
                      ...Typically the beginner is going to have mental interference. This might be more than you can overcome, so you are going to have to work hard at eliminating negative thoughts and doubts. If you can get the meditation down, your mind will be still and it won't be "your own worst enemy".


                      Advanced Rangetell facts from Dr. hung:
                      "This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned".


                      "The Examiner is clearly a radionic device".


                      The final clue is where Dr. hung accidentally tells us his secret discovery of a substance produced by gold DNA:
                      This anti-oxidation substance that coats gold metal is important to those who theorize the new calculator key codes Dr. hung uses are actually detecting the genetic makeup of this DNA-produced substance, not the gold metal that is hidden beneath the coating.
                      "Gold is the most powerful 'self defensive' metal when it comes to avoid any harm to its structure, such as rust, oxidation, etc. Its DNA produces a substance which coats the metal to fight against those 'threats'"


                      With your constructive motive in mind, how do you think I should proceed?

                      Best wishes,
                      J_P
                      Thanks for all that.... it's late and I been busy with other projects all evening. Let me cogitate on what you said; and I'll try to get back to you with something positive.

                      Later....

                      The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                      Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                      • Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                        The only thing I can say is that whenever gave us a target we found it and proved right using our rods to follow the signal to the target.
                        This is the point we are unable agree on. You cannot "prove" that a target was found by using rods, particularly since there is no such thing as a signal line.

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                        • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                          "the Examiner makes use of resonance techniques and longitudinal wave coupling to boost the energy to a level necessary for long range detection. The human component is also an essential part of the design". http://www.rangertell.com/frequently...uestions-a.htm

                          Geotech forum member contribution to a Rangertell website:
                          "...The human component is also an essential part of the design. Just as a tuning fork..."
                          http://www.rangertell.com/to_the_skeptic.htm

                          I see they are still quoting from my spoof article on the RT Scaminer!

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                          • Originally posted by Qiaozhi

                            I see they are still quoting from my spoof article on the RT Scaminer!
                            Actually, I was not aware you were so knowledgeable in the principle of operation for this circuit until I discovered you wrote that detailed description. Of course, you realise the new model has a different circuit, but it interacts with the same forces of magnetism and frequency as the older circuits.

                            What is interesting is I don't see you make any reference to the carrier signal line being shot and returned. Maybe this principle only applies to the diodes model and is not actually put into practice in the current model. I suspect you have held back a couple of key technical secrets so the average experimenter would not be able to produce a working model, which is a wise thing to do. But even if all the technical details were given, the circuit would not work unless the user was able to enter the proprietary calculator key sequences.

                            I am thinking the codes to detect the substance that gold DNA produces are probably the most valuable of all the codes. If you think about it, every person who hoarded gold must have had some of this substance rub off the gold surface on their hands and become embedded in the ground where they were digging to bury their treasure. And even non-buried gold that is hidden from sight will have telltale traces of this substance everywhere the gold touched. Can you imagine the implications?

                            At present, I am re-reading Mike(Mont)'s posts to refresh my understanding of the basics of meditation. The "scarecrow position" could be tiring and cause undue strain to the arm muscles after awhile, but his other suggestions seem less rigourous.

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P

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                            • With your constructive motive in mind, how do you think I should proceed?

                              J_Player,

                              Well, I've had a chance to think some about helping you with how to proceed, with the Examiner testing.

                              First, I'm very sorry to hear about your nerve damage from a previous accident. Of course if you cannot get a typical dowsing response from a bent L-shaped wire, over a target in plain sight, then I would not expect you to get a typical response from an Examiner either. In all my years of testing and observing various dowsers, I've not run across a single individual who, after being shown what the typical response should look like over a garden hose or a known underground pipe, or a coin thrown on the ground; could not themselves get a similar or like response.

                              Of course, if the nerve connections between the brain and the hand (or arm) are damaged, then the ideomotor response could fire in the brain, but be blocked from getting to the hand.

                              I have but one single suggestion for you to try. Realizing that "apparently" using the device in your left hand, there will be a reduction "supposedly" in the the response; is it possible for you to try it several times in your left hand, and just see what you might get. Perhaps over the course of several tries you might be surprised at what you could train your left hand to do.

                              Now, to get down to some "brass tacks", so to speak. I have decided there is probably nothing that I can offer you in the way of constructive suggestions for how to proceed from this point. And, here is why I can't offer anything:

                              From your recent posting and several others in the past, concerning the RT Examiner; YOU seem to be "buying into and entertaining all of the RT marketing BS as IF it were True and Valid". Whether this is how you truly think or not, I cannot tell for sure. I can't believe you do, in your heart, but I can't tell at this point.

                              I, on the other hand, will not and cannot buy into a single iota of the RT marketing BS concerning the operation of the Examiner, the stated theory of operation, or any of the other nonsense perpetrated simply to snow the gullible and technically-challenged. I'm sorry, but I can't do that. Neither could I "make-out" like I believe it, just so it would appear that I am trying to give the device every opportunity for it to work and do what it is supposed to be able to do.

                              I know how the device operates. It is nothing more than a plastic box mounted atop a swivel handle, which responds to simple ideomotor responses from the operator. And, certainly, it WILL operate that way whether you hold it in your right hand or your left hand, it does not make a difference. The calculator and the "secret" codes to be plugged into it have not a single input or influence as to how the device will respond. There are NO signal lines traveling out to a target and back to the device or to the operator.

                              Since these are my opinions and understanding, I really cannot offer you anything constructive, especially in light of the "apparent" understanding and approach you are taking to the device. If you want to believe that a box full of do-nothing components with an Asian calculator stuck to it is somehow doing something constructive in terms of enhancing your own biological dowsing response, that is YOUR business. Frankly, I'm shocked that a man of your "seeming" intelligence would present yourself as harboring this kind of belief or understanding about such an obvious ruse. I still suspect it is an "act", but I can't prove it... I can only suspect it, since I never thought you qualified as a "gullible or technically-challenged".

                              I will consider the once bally-whoed testing of the Examiner as permanently closed, and will promise to quit "bugging" you about getting on with it. I was really looking forward to some meaningful conclusions to come out of your testing, as I'm sure many others were.... sorry it has to be shelved this way.

                              I suppose you will be sending it back to RT, in the not too distant future.

                              The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                              Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                              • Thanks to JP, what is now clear to me is that RangerTell adverts are lies, that it is NOT simple and straightforward to use their device, and that NOT everyone can use it.

                                So i will NOT buy this LRL.
                                Thanks JP for helping us making our choice.

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