rangertell examiner field trials

[J_Player]

A length of tube makes a great circuit. I guess the same could be said for sea shells.

Some calculator signal tests would be nice, kinda surprised you didn't do any with the first Examiner.

Later, Jim

Tubes are only used for resonant cavities in a very few electronic circuits that are not generally related to passive receivers. Tubes are more commonly used in acoustic applications such as pipe organs, xylophones, shotgun microphones and other acoustic applications where a sound frequency is to be boosted by a resonating tube. It is amazing people will post technical BS in a technical forum such as tubes and sea shells making a great circuit. It brings to mind the quality of teachings from the famous post where we were told that gold DNA produces a substance that coats the metal to fight rust and oxidation.

Actually I did make some tests on the calculator with the first Examiner. When the new Examiner arrives, I will put it and the calculator on the scope to see what signals are there.

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

No. I did not contradict myself. You will eventually have your answers in the long run if you study it and make tests.

How are you going to measure signals and emissions?
Answer: The same way you would in the case of radionics machines.

[Jim]

Tubes are only used for resonant cavities in a very few electronic circuits that are not generally related to passive receivers. Tubes are more commonly used in acoustic applications such as pipe organs, xylophones, shotgun microphones and other acoustic applications where a sound frequency is to be boosted by a resonating tube. It is amazing people will post technical BS in a technical forum such as tubes and sea shells making a great circuit. It brings to mind the quality of teachings from the famous post where we were told that gold DNA produces a substance that coats the metal to fight rust and oxidation.

Actually I did make some tests on the calculator with the first Examiner. When the new Examiner arrives, I will put it and the calculator on the scope to see what signals are there.

Best wishes,
J_P

Sorry....you brought up the sound frequency/ tube BS and I was just rolling with it. Whatever it takes to find treasure :::shrugs:::

[J_Player]

Sorry....you brought up the sound frequency/ tube BS and I was just rolling with it. Whatever it takes to find treasure :::shrugs:::

What I brought up was not BS, I described a principle that is used regularly in acoustics, and a well known scientific principle. It is analogous to the principle of electronic resonance in a passive electronic circuit. You know this as well as most of the educated people who read this forum. If you are attempting to pretend you are too dum to know that, it didn't work on me, or I doubt on any other person who passed high school science classes.

I will keep in mind your pretentious attitude against well established science when considering any posts you make in the future.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

No. I did not contradict myself. You will eventually have your answers in the long run if you study it and make tests.

How are you going to measure signals and emissions?
Answer: The same way you would in the case of radionics machines.

I can easily measure induced polarization phase angles. The problem is there is no induced polarization equipment on the Examiner for me to connect to and measure.

If you are certain you did not contradict yourself, then I do not have any instruments that can capture shot or returned signal lines or any radionic signals. Therefore I have no way to measure them. I can only measure signals that are electronic or magnetic in nature with the instruments I have. Maybe you could post something like a schematic of an instrument I can use to measure shot signal lines or returned signal lines. I will also need to know the tuning instructions for this alleged method and instructions for finding consistent measurement results from signals in the radionic spectrum.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Hi Fred,

I was told They will send a unit that has a fixed trimmer cap.

In this case, you will also need fixed humidity otherwise the thing will not work.

[J_Player]

In this case, you will also need fixed humidity otherwise the thing will not work.

Can you elaborate?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Jim]

What I brought up was not BS, I described a principle that is used regularly in acoustics, and a well known scientific principle. It is analogous to the principle of electronic resonance in a passive electronic circuit. You know this as well as most of the educated people who read this forum. If you are attempting to pretend you are too dum to know that, it didn't work on me, or I doubt on any other person who passed high school science classes.

I will keep in mind your pretentious attitude against well established science when considering any posts you make in the future.

Best wishes,
J_P

Wow. I feel as though I just got a Dell Winders lambasting.

I make mention "I read that the device has a resonant frequency amplification circuit" and get some sort of spin-off about sound frequency and a hollow tube. One has nothing to do with the other.

Yes, please keep in mind not everybody is grasping for straws, when discussing flawed logic

[J_Player]

Wow. I feel as though I just got a Dell Winders lambasting.

I make mention "I read that the device has a resonant frequency amplification circuit" and get some sort of spin-off about sound frequency and a hollow tube. One has nothing to do with the other.

Yes, please keep in mind not everybody is grasping for straws, when discussing flawed logic

Are you now claiming you have no knowledge that a resonating acoustic tube is an analogy to a passive resonating circuit? Are you claiming this is the reason why you posted BS that a tube and a seashell make a good circuit? Shall we take it that you cannot understand any analogy of resonant frequencies and how they can be utilized to make a signal stronger than without resonating apparatus?

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Can you elaborate?

Yes I can, but need detailed used calculator specifications first.

[J_Player]

Yes I can, but need detailed used calculator specifications first.

I don't think the calculator has a trimmer cap on it. Maybe it is not effected by humidity?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Jim]

Are you now claiming you have no knowledge that a resonating acoustic tube is an analogy to a passive resonating circuit? Are you claiming this is the reason why you posted BS that a tube and a seashell make a good circuit? Shall we take it that you cannot understand any analogy of resonant frequencies and how they can be utilized to make a signal stronger than without resonating apparatus?

Best wishes,
J_P

I guess I am calling shenanigans on your BS analogy. I am not claiming anything. A non-existing circuit is just that, not something else that "maybe" the same...but in a different application.

[J_Player]

I guess I am calling shenanigans on your BS analogy. I am not claiming anything. A non-existing circuit is just that, not something else that "maybe" the same...but in a different application.

Well then you better get your facts straight. First, I never said a tube is a circuit. You are the person who made that reference. I only talked about a length of tube as an example of how it resonates with sound waves of the same frequency as the tube. If you think that is BS, you are mistaken. Any high school science student knows you are wrong about that.

If you want to try to imply I consider a tube an electronic circuit, you are also wrong. I didn't make any statement to that effect. You did. This is where you introduced BS into the concept of resonance. And it is analogous to passive resonant electornic circuits such as a coil and a capacitor. If you doubt that, you could ask any acoustic engineer who knows the answer. They are very familiar with the concepts of tuning the frequencies and impedance matching in acoustics, just as electronic engineers are familiar with resonant tuning and impedance matching in electronic circuits.

I have not introduced shenanegans into the concept of resonance, you did the moment you claimed tubes and seashells make a good circuit. I only made an analogy of resonance in two different mediums, and questioned your implications that the Examiner may be subject to FCC registration. The fact is the Examiner does not contain any transmitting equipment or power amplifiers that I am aware of, nor is it capable of creating any EMI/RFI interference above the background levels present in the air. It is claimed to be a passive receiver circuit that amplifies minute external signals through the principle of resonance. If it does indeed create EMI/RFI interference problems, then I am not aware of these problems or any FCC registration requirements.

It does not make you appear any closer to correct about how resonance works, or whether FCC registration is required even when you try to obfuscate the facts.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

If you want to make serious measurements first you need a non-existing diode.
Then some more hands.

[J_Player]

If you want to make serious measurements first you need a non-existing diode.
Then some more hands.

Where should we look to find a non-existing diode?

Best wishes,
J_P