rangertell examiner field trials

[Esteban]

In this case, you will also need fixed humidity otherwise the thing will not work.

Esteban's battery. Without humidity, this doesn't work. Here an example. Voltage is zero (or not enough for to manage the fet) without the water. Also you can comprobe that a fet can work only with few milivolts and obtain very noticeable signal. Maybe in the soil the good conductive metal show this process, in consideration humidity of the soil too.

In the diode question thread I notice that with 4 Ge high quality diodes in serie can amplify big. Maybe this don't have relation with this theme, but... sorry, I have strange ways of seeing things. I save the old parts of the experiment, you can see below the schematic.

[J_Player]

Esteban's battery. Without humidity, this doesn't work. Here an example. Voltage is zero (or not enough for to manage the fet) without the water. Also you can comprobe that a fet can work only with few milivolts and obtain very noticeable signal. Maybe in the soil the good conductive metal show this process, in consideration humidity of the soil too.

In the diode question thread I notice that with 4 Ge high quality diodes in serie can amplify big. Maybe this don't have relation with this theme, but... sorry, I have strange ways of seeing things. I save the old parts of the experiment, you can see below the schematic.

Hi Esteban,
What was the reason why you built this battery? Was it part of an experiment different than simply building a battery?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Where should we look to find a non-existing diode?

Best wishes,
J_P

Inside the RT, but without opening it.

[J_Player]

Inside the RT, but without opening it.

In the previous Examiner, I saw a silicon diode soldered inside between the coil at the brass handle pivot and the antenna. Is there a reason to think the diode will be nonexisting in the replacement Examiner?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
What was the reason why you built this battery? Was it part of an experiment different than simply building a battery?

Best wishes,
J_P

Not only battery per se. Wish comprobe is a fet can be supplied by few milivolts. And, of course, similar battery can show metals in soil.

[J_Player]

Only wish comprobe is a fet can be supplied by few milivolts. And, of course, similar battery can show metals in soil.

Interesting experiment. You found that the moisture content would determine how much voltage could be detected from the battery, which could be used to extrapolate to how voltages produced by "ground batteries" can change when the moisture content of the ground is changed.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

The replacement Examiner arrived, so I took photos today.

In the photos below you will see the replacement Examiner is the Deluxe model, not the G-T Ver 8.08B.
In an email from the Rangertell factory, they told me this model is identical to the G-T Ver 8.08B except it uses a different calculator, and the decals on the sides are different. One change they did make for me is to fix the trimmer cap so it cannot be adjusted. It will remain at the factory setting during the time I am conducting field tests without being touched. Another difference from the G-T Ver 8.08B is the Deluxe model came with a ground probe that can be used in conjunction with the Examiner if desired. This ground probe is intended to be used with a laptop computer that is running a software program to cause it to send out an audio signal to the ground probe (software is included). The signal sent out can be adjusted to whatever audio frequency you want as well as the amplitude set from 0 to the full power of your computer sound circuit. If the optional ground probe is not used, then the Examiner will work the same as any G-T Ver 8.08B model, with the exception that the calculator will not turn off after a few minutes. The Deluxe model uses a TI-36X solar calculator which always remains on until you turn it off. This means you don't need to bother with re-entering the key codes every few minutes like on the G-T Ver 8.08B.

See photos below:

[Esteban]

Interesting experiment. You found that the moisture content would determine how much voltage could be detected from the battery, which could be used to extrapolate to how voltages produced by "ground batteries" can change when the moisture content of the ground is changed.

Best wishes,
J_P

Yes, without the moisture, the fet can't be managed. Here I don't use corrosive liquid, only few drops of water (2 or 3) and a few zinc oxide. Maybe content of minerals in soil + the sand + moisture acts as the zinc + the zinc oxide (many kinds of oxides exists in the soil) + water: This is the negative pole. And the positive is the solid metal, a coin for example.

[Esteban]

The replacement Examiner arrived, so I took photos today.

In the photos below you will see the replacement Examiner is the Deluxe model, not the G-T Ver 8.08B.
In an email from the Rangertell factory, they told me this model is identical to the G-T Ver 8.08B except it uses a different calculator, and the decals on the sides are different. One change they did make for me is to fix the trimmer cap so it cannot be adjusted. It will remain at the factory setting during the time I am conducting field tests without being touched. Another difference from the G-T Ver 8.08B is the Deluxe model came with a ground probe that can be used in conjunction with the Examiner if desired. This ground probe is intended to be used with a laptop computer that is running a software program to cause it to send out an audio signal to the ground probe (software is included). The signal sent out can be adjusted to whatever audio frequency you want as well as the amplitude set from 0 to the full power of your computer sound circuit. If the optional ground probe is not used, then the Examiner will work the same as any G-T Ver 8.08B model, with the exception that the calculator will not turn off after a few minutes. The Deluxe model uses a TI-36X solar calculator which always remains on until you turn it off. This means you don't need to bother with re-entering the key codes every few minutes like on the G-T Ver 8.08B.

See photos below:

Thanks. Did you try the Examiner sometimes?

[J_Player]

Thanks. Did you try the Examiner sometimes?

I have not tried it yet. I am ready for finding volunteers to take it into the field for testing. Anyone who wants to try it in the Los Angeles area can send me a PM.

Best wishses,
J_P

[Jim]

It does not make you appear any closer to correct about how resonance works, or whether FCC registration is required even when you try to obfuscate the facts.

Best wishes,
J_P

Facts? Good grief. Its a friggen calculator...sitting on top of a do nothing box, for Christs sake! Of course it is not a transmitter.

Lets just agree we disagree. Lowering yourself to Dell Winders tactics is neither warranted or wanted.

[WM6]

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+ water: This is the negative pole. And the positive is the solid metal, a coin for example.

You only need to modulate this weak soil battery current and receive signal at location of highest signal concentration. To do this soil battery have to be treated as semiconductor.

[Theseus]

I have not tried it yet. I am ready for finding volunteers to take it into the field for testing. Anyone who wants to try it in the Los Angeles area can send me a PM.

Best wishses,
J_P

So, are you still maintaining that "you" are not able to fairly test the device, because of your prior nerve damage? Therefore, any testing will need to be done by volunteer operators, and you will only be recording the proceedings?

Perhaps I asked you this before; have you ever tried to use a simple bent wire L-rod, over a target in plain sight? What were your results?

[J_Player]

Facts? Good grief. Its a friggen calculator...sitting on top of a do nothing box, for Christs sake! Of course it is not a transmitter.

Lets just agree we disagree. Lowering yourself to Dell Winders tactics is neither warranted or wanted.

Lower myself to Dell Winders level?
The only thing I am guilty of is lowering myself to giving a fair argument to a person of your level.
You pretend to have facts while you try to obfuscate the facts. You make posts here with an agenda you want to prove with innuendos based on false information, then when you are shown to be wrong, you look for ways to prove it is someone else's fault, and call people names.

Isn't that what Dell sometimes does?

For example, before starting in on me, you called hung the "the gossiping Nancy".
Then, when I explained how your innuendo that the Examiner may not be compliant with Part 15 of Fedaral Law seems to have no basis in fact, because you erroneously assumed it is a transmitter, You continued to call the Examiner a transmitter, which It is not. Then you tried to prove it is subject to the FCC ID because according to you, it is required for even sticks that you rub together as long as the sticks are called a transmitter.

But when You discovered I wouldn't pretend the Examiner is a transmitter to help your innuendo, then you switched to trying to a new innuendo also based on erroneous facts, stating that resonant frequency amplification circuit is an awesome feat of engineering, as if it had not been done before. When I also pointed out this error, you then switched to a new way to prove your point --- focus the blame for your errors on me!
All you needed to do is to somehow prove I gave a bad explanation, then you could easily obfuscate the fact that you had no clue whether the Examiner has any FCC ID requirements, nor do you have any idea whether it is claimed to be a transmitter or receiver. You came here to advance your agenda regardless of the basic fact that has been known for some time:

The Rangertell factory claims the Examiner is a receiver that is tuned through small signals that are induced from outside the enclosure.
The manufacturer never claimed it was a transmitter.

Only hung and you made the claim the Examiner is a transmitter, and used that argument to advance your own agendas.

Sure, you proved something. You proved you preferred to use false information to prove your point rather than to admit you were were wrong from the beginning.
Based on your original faulty information that the Examiner is a transmitter, I can safely say you did not read what the Rangertell factory published on their website or what I repeated from their manual. Instead you chose to believe hung's version of how it works in order to support your innuendos that it is subject to FCC ID.

Now you are hoping I will drop your whole argument because you think I am lowering myself to Dells level?
Hahahahahaa...

No, I don't simply agree to disagree with you. I believe you are one of the few people who is willing to use false information to prove whatever agenda you have at the moment and call people names, rather than to use facts and evidence to support what you are saying. And when you are shown to be wrong, then you are happy to look for ways to obfuscate the facts so readers will loose tract of how you began with false information to begin with. As I said, I will keep your pretentious attitude in mind in all your future posts.

But I will run some tests on the calculator as soon as I get a chance.


Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

So, are you still maintaining that "you" are not able to fairly test the device, because of your prior nerve damage? Therefore, any testing will need to be done by volunteer operators, and you will only be recording the proceedings?

Perhaps I asked you this before; have you ever tried to use a simple bent wire L-rod, over a target in plain sight? What were your results?

Hi Theseus,
I am looking for people who want to test the Examiner in thier own hands to see how well it works for them. I will be documenting the public testing done.

On the occasions I tried dowsing with bent wires, I was not successful.

Best wishes,
J_P