Another Study to confirm LRL Detection of Buried Metals

[Seden]

Rota and Maby are on to something

First off taking a break from the pretty girl as there is no since lathering up if you don't have no place to shave!

I want to buy a copy of J.C Maby's- Physical Prinscipals of Radiesthesia; 1966 if anyone knows where I could get one. I read through many of the Rota papers and the guy who recieved them and his synopsis was that it appears that Rota was detecting the magnetic vector or scalar wave.

I can't see discrediting all 3 of these guy's who spent decades working with Telluric Currents without really looking over ALL their data. I especially liked the simple schematic of a neon detector that the new owner of Rota's papers feels it recovers the same signal albeit up to date circuitry.


Randy

[Max]

First off taking a break from the pretty girl as there is no since lathering up if you don't have no place to shave!

I want to buy a copy of J.C Maby's- Physical Prinscipals of Radiesthesia; 1966 if anyone knows where I could get one. I read through many of the Rota papers and the guy who recieved them and his synopsis was that it appears that Rota was detecting the magnetic vector or scalar wave.

I can't see discrediting all 3 of these guy's who spent decades working with Telluric Currents without really looking over ALL their data. I especially liked the simple schematic of a neon detector that the new owner of Rota's papers feels it recovers the same signal albeit up to date circuitry.


Randy

Hi,
I read from wikipedia:

"Radiesthesia is the paranormal or parapsychological ability to detect "radiation" within the human body. According to the theory, all human bodies give off unique or characteristic "radiations" as do all other physical bodies or objects. Such radiations are often termed an "aura"."

So you're talking of an "Aura" detector ???

And what do you mean for "neon detector" ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Seden]

Link to all you want to know RE:L.Rota

Max,

Not to worry about the term used "Radiesthesia", the book contains a collection of his works over decades. Some out there, some plain old Telluric Current study,whatever.

In my earlier post I said here's the motherlode site for Rota and then forgot to post it

OK, here it is:

http://wikirota.org/en/Main_Page

Go down the page till you see the link to The Universal Currents just above earth antenna and there you shall see the schematic for the simple neon bulb detector. This paper has the summation of Rota's theory and is worth serious study. Rota's no idiot and this is where the magnetic vector is mentioned.

Print it out and let me know what you think,

Randy

[WM6]

Rotaviruses on WikiRota

"Louis Rota was very secretive about his work and published very little."

Understandably, they are also found very little, actually nothing.

"Rota did not use any electronic equipment, only a stop watch and a hight impedance headset connected to a ground or/and aerial antenna network."

As first amateur radio enthusiast did, and found many times the same "theluric" effect. Metal rods in soil work as weak battery, metal rods in air collect atmosheric, airflow and environment charge and this is all of thelurity.

[J_Player]

Max,

Not to worry about the term used "Radiesthesia", the book contains a collection of his works over decades. Some out there, some plain old Telluric Current study,whatever.

In my earlier post I said here's the motherlode site for Rota and then forgot to post it

OK, here it is:

http://wikirota.org/en/Main_Page

Go down the page till you see the link to The Universal Currents just above earth antenna and there you shall see the schematic for the simple neon bulb detector. This paper has the summation of Rota's theory and is worth serious study. Rota's no idiot and this is where the magnetic vector is mentioned.

Print it out and let me know what you think,

Randy

Hi Randy,
The Roda pages are very interesting to read. The theory that there are 5 currents, only two of which have been discovered by people other than Roda is intriguing. But there is one problem with the Roda theories.

After reading every paper on that site, nobody has been able to use that information to make any practical apparatus that serves a useful function. We read about stories of people who did great things with these theories in decades past. but nobody is reporting any success today. For example, Nobody has been successful at building the airplane that defies gravity and high winds. No doctors or medical suppliers are providing the therapeutic mattresses with treated metal sandwiches to cure people. Nobody is out locating distant vehicles and other objects as are claimed to have been done by Roda. It seems everyone is using conventional air travel, vehicle locating tools, and conventional medicines. And the list goes on.

Is it possible that the essential details were omitted from Roda's works? Perhaps he did this intentionally due to wartime spy activity during his studies. But it doesn't matter what the reason. The fact is nobody has been successful at producing apparatus that we can use to competently accomplish anything useful.

There is one possible exception if the reports are true about ground antennas. I read some reports where people are claiming they get good radio signals from pushing a metal rod and other metal antennas in the ground.

What I think about all the stuff on the Wikiroda is it is interesting to read, but worthless to waste time experimenting with because the odds of accomplishing anything useful is very slim. I suppose if I had nothing else to do, it might be fun to experiment with that stuff.

Best wishes,
J_P

[sweatofglory]

he he he he he ...........

No Doubt as usual max knows everything especially with sexy girls!

[Qiaozhi]

I want to buy a copy of J.C Maby's- Physical Prinscipals of Radiesthesia; 1966 if anyone knows where I could get one.

The Physical Principles of Radiesthesia (Collected Papers: 1944-65) by Joseph Cecil Maby is listed on Amazon but is currently unavailable. If it's any help, the ASIN is B0000CN5E9

[Qiaozhi]

Or ... you could buy one of these -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TESLA-GOLD-TAC...item19b84598f2

[Mike(Mont)]

Randy,

I searched the country for it and found there are a few libraries that have a copy but will not loan it out. I think they said it was a home printing or something like that so there are very few copies. There are a few copies in libraries in UK and France, but I didn't check on the availability. Anyway, I read somewhere the papers are hard to follow and poor quality printing, and Tromp's "Psychical Physics" is much better. Don't know this as a fact as I've never read either of them.

[Seden]

Another Study to confirm LRL Detection of Buried Metals

Thanks for your level headed input and yeah no one to my knowledge has done anything with Rota's work.

To be specific, my interest in Rota,Maby+Franklins work is that they all found different sounds(as seen on the O'Scope pictures) from different metals used as the Ground Antenna posts. I don't care about anything else these gentlemen worked on but that and to be able to use this to locate buried metal deposits in prospecting for gold.

The patent I listed by Anthony Barringer does in fact utilize telluric currents for mineral exploration using standard electromagnetic detection. I would like to see what a scalar detector at those frequencies would show.

Randy

[J_Player]

Thanks for your level headed input and yeah no one to my knowledge has done anything with Rota's work.

To be specific, my interest in Rota,Maby+Franklins work is that they all found different sounds(as seen on the O'Scope pictures) from different metals used as the Ground Antenna posts. I don't care about anything else these gentlemen worked on but that and to be able to use this to locate buried metal deposits in prospecting for gold.

The patent I listed by Anthony Barringer does in fact utilize telluric currents for mineral exploration using standard electromagnetic detection. I would like to see what a scalar detector at those frequencies would show.

Randy

Hi Randy,

You're right. The geotechnical aspects of Rota and the other experimenters are what caught my interest, along with the "ground antenna" work. There is a body of evidence as well as a technology associated with these. Their theories and discoveries could be useful for building experimental instruments to locate ore deposits or other buried things.

Also, the telluric currents were used to power telegraph signals in the days before radio and telephones. As I recall, there were specialists who could choose good places to drive rods into the ground that would produce enough current to drive telegraph lines without using batteries. They could simply string a single wire and let the ground rods provide the return path as well as the power. In places where telluric conditions were poor, they had to use batteries with a 2-wire transmission line. It seems these "ground battery" driven telegraphs became stronger with age, same as what Roda says. If I had the time I would be experimenting with these things too.

P.S. Don't forget to answer your emali.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Astrodetect]

Hi all
Take a look at what I have found.This detector is very sensitive to electromagnetic fields up to 100microTesla. This is the sensors that OKM Manufacturer uses in their
Detectors for imaging what is in the ground. What do you think, will this work for detecting electromagnetic anomalies Esteban?

[hung]

Although the FLC100's primary purpose is to actually detect leaking EM emanations and from very close distances, yes it could be converted to the purposes you mention.
But for this, some mods would have to be done such as different frequency span, narrower bandwidth (for pinpointing) and possibly a bigger coil to match wavelengths better.

IMO there are other more effective ways to long distance metal detecting if this is what you mean.

Also, how do you know this is the Rover C sensor?

Regards.

[Astrodetect]

Welcome Hung
About the rover c unit once upon a time I bought it and I opened it up and saw this sensor.Anyway I also bought this same sensor and made a duplicate rover c.It was easy to clone.It uses a microcontroller called C-Control and this FLC sensor.
It didnt work.......as advertised.
So tell me Hung what is another way that you suggest we can detect Long range targets?
Please give your experience and opinions.
Thanks

[Esteban]

This kind of sensor is not useful for long range (some meters). You need a more big coil here for to detect the magnetic anomalies caused by buried metals in the soil. A small coil is not good for detect at distance. A big coil is influenced by all kinds of magnetic interferences. An adequate coil is medium size, few turns. Or loop-core system low in ohms.