Bionic 01 Video

[Geo]

Thank you Geo,
You answered most of my question.
From what you say it can find a shovel at 10 m distance if long time buried. I presume this is the same distance you usually see for non-ferrous metals. Correct?

But before it was properly tuned, it found a steel door at 2.5-3 m when working only as a metal detector? This seems like far distance for a normal metal detector, and yours was not tuned well. So it was giving some better distances than a regular metal detector even when not tuned well as regular metal detector. Am I wrong?

Best wishes,
J_P

Maybe you are not wrong, but you forgot the conditions....
The PD worked oposite!!!! maybe from bad null ( i used a concentric coil, not Omega), so i had the led just bright and when i detected the door then the led stopped to bright. I wrote about it!!!!, and yes the led stopped to bright, at a distance of 2.5....3 m.
But it is a big difference between MD and LRL, i think that you know it.

Regards

[Geo]

Geo it is a good time for sure.
Please attach your photos!

You cannot expect all people to believe in what you believe.

Regards

[Geo]

I am wondering if i should have ever used the word "esoteric" .

For me it is a "simple" word

[J_Player]

Maybe you are not wrong, but you forgot the conditions....
The PD worked oposite!!!! maybe from bad null ( i used a concentric coil, not Omega), so i had the led just bright and when i detected the door then the led stopped to bright. I wrote about it!!!!, and yes the led stopped to bright, at a distance of 2.5....3 m.
But it is a big difference between MD and LRL, i think that you know it.

Regards

Yes, I remember.
This is why I am surprised. Maybe my metal detectors do not detect a metal door so far because they have a faraday shield on the coil.

But I was not aware that when working as LRL it can be tuned to find iron the same distance as non-ferrous. I thought it found iron at lesser distances. This is what I wanted to know. I guess you tune it to see only non-ferrous, but if you wanted to find iron, you could make a change in the tuning to use it for 30 m when looking for long time buried iron the size of a shovel.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

But regarding another post, J_P doesn't have interest... the crude reality???

My interest in the pistols is to see them recovering treasure with my own eyes, and to see them make beeps at "the phenomenon" with my own hands.

I am not interested in building the secret pistol circuits. I have never had an interest in building any of the secret circuit parts that were shown in the forums, nor have I built any of them. I think it would be interesting to see other people build the secret circuits and watch them demonstrate these live. You know this is my interest because you saw me help to encourage the Morgan demonstration where Geo saw with his own eyes and tested with his own hands. That is the reality of historical facts.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

But I was not aware that when working as LRL it can be tuned to find iron the same distance as non-ferrous. I thought it found iron at lesser distances. This is what I wanted to know. I guess you tune it to see only non-ferrous, but if you wanted to find iron, you could make a change in the tuning to use it for 30 m when looking for long time buried iron the size of a shovel.

The concentration of Earth's magnetic field around Iron is strong, so it is easily detectable with LRL, or Magnetometer at greater distances.

The concentration of Earth's magnetic field around Gold, is weak, and less detectable at greater distances. The "field" of Iron has to be filtered out in order to Discriminate to Gold.

Enough said! I'm not here for argument, or discussion so don't bother. Let a word to those of you intelligent enough to understand simple physics, be sufficient. Dell

[putrechigi]

hi

Hi
I have not problem if Pistols have esoteric technology or not. I know that Pistols detects the "phenomenon", and "phenomenon" is very strong!!!!.
If you will understand this, then you will understand how the Pistols working. If some people will spend, for understanding how pistols working, the half time than they spend to tell that Pistols don't work, then they will construct a good Pistol.
But if they will construct a Pistol, Then what they will have to say!!!
So the things are simple!!! No "phenomenon", no "Pistols"......

Regards

I AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Geo]

Yes, I remember.
This is why I am surprised. Maybe my metal detectors do not detect a metal door so far because they have a faraday shield on the coil.

But I was not aware that when working as LRL it can be tuned to find iron the same distance as non-ferrous. I thought it found iron at lesser distances. This is what I wanted to know. I guess you tune it to see only non-ferrous, but if you wanted to find iron, you could make a change in the tuning to use it for 30 m when looking for long time buried iron the size of a shovel.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Sorry but i don't know, so i can't answer.
I have not so big experience with my PD.

Regards

[J_Player]

The concentration of Earth's magnetic field around Iron is strong, so it is easily detectable with LRL, or Magnetometer at greater distances.

The concentration of Earth's magnetic field around Gold, is weak, and less detectable at greater distances. The "field" of Iron has to be filtered out in order to Discriminate to Gold.

Enough said! I'm not here for argument, or discussion so don't bother. Let a word to those of you intelligent enough to understand simple physics, be sufficient. Dell

Hi Dell,
I understand you are not posting in the forum for the purpose of opening a discussion.
But I am making also making a reply without expecting any answer because your post is a little out of context.

We all know about the magnetic properties of iron. And we know that it is not seen the same by magnetometers as non-ferrous metals are.
The PD that Geo uses is not a magnetometer or and MFD tye LRL. It uses an IB metal detector circuit as a base circuit with a ferrite receiver added for long range operation. It does not work by injecting molecular "treasure frequencies" into the circuit as your LRLs do. It is a completely different type of locator that operates with a metal detector coil at around 120KHz. According to people who use these PDs, they can operate in either a metal detector mode or an LRL mode.

The questions I made are concerned with some unusual reports I heard about the response of these PD locators. The reports I heard are not entirely consistent, but they certainly do not follow the concept proposed by some LRL enthusiasts. I was only asking to see what kind of response he observed with his particular PD, not to learn how the magnetic properties of iron are different than other metals.

Thank you for your input,
J_P

[Geo]

The PD that Geo uses is not a magnetometer or and MFD tye LRL. It uses an IB metal detector circuit as a base circuit with a ferrite receiver added for long range operation. It does not work by injecting molecular "treasure frequencies" into the circuit as your LRLs do. It is a completely different type of locator that operates with a metal detector coil at around 120KHz. According to people who use these PDs, they can operate in either a metal detector mode or an LRL mode.
J_P

Hi J_P.
I must tell you that my modification PD, don't use ferrite as antenna for the second receiver........

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P.
I must tell you that my modification PD, don't use ferrite as antenna for the second receiver........

Regards

You are detecting non-ferrous at 30m with only a modified IB metal detector?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

You are detecting non-ferrous at 30m with only a modified IB metal detector?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Where i say about 30m distance????

Regards

[Esteban]

So how did it went ?


Actually many are tired of circus, what the want is serious discussion matter and some evidences of what you are talking about...

I am wondering if i should have ever used the word "esoteric" .

When starting serious discussion, you and others re-start the mockeries. This is the field of your "serious" discussion. So, is better the "esoteric" position.

[Fred]

When starting serious discussion, you and others re-start the mockeries. This is the field of your "serious" discussion. So, is better the "esoteric" position.

I have never mocked you. And when i am in a serious discussion, i expect serious answers.
Esoteric is the point where we are right now.It depends on you to make it different, and it should not be difficult.
Unless you prefer to keep it esoteric

[Esteban]

I have never mocked you. And when i am in a serious discussion, i expect serious answers.
Esoteric is the point where we are right now.It depends on you to make it different, and it should not be difficult.
Unless you prefer to keep it esoteric

I don't believe... By experience, I know this is not true.