Bionic 01 Video

[Morgan]

OKM

Hi Manolo.
Sorry, but your sentence in bold is wrong information. Either you misunderstood it or your friend misexpressed himself.
The Bionic 01 mode of searching is performed as an horizontal axis scan.
The early model did not feature the laser pinpointer and the target always had to be pinpointed by triangulation.
So this information is not correct.

Now, if the new model features a laser pinpointer that can be only used in the vertical axis, this simply does not make sense. Scanning the laser in both axis would be very simple by using a pentaprism for instance and it would just plain absurd having one axis limitation in the pinpointing after the device has detected a long distance target.

Imagine if this happened to the IR leds in the FG80...

I'll be in contact with one of the tech guys in OKM Germany and have him clarify this.

Regards.

Happy new year for all forum members

Hello Hung

Let me tell you that i visit OKM in Germany some years ago,when the LRL production center was near the feunf minuten strass (five minute stret).
After the OKM lrl field demonstration i come to the conclusion this products are not good. They fail completly,not found 1kg of silver objects (i buried 30 cm near the OKM factury), They said its becouse ground conditions...

[J_Player]

...That still doesn't prove it is only detecting gold, just that the operator is not pressing a switch to activate the lights.

Next would be to try and move a small dental inspection mirror into the beam, or perhaps other shiny metal objects.

I know of ways to cause a detector with a laser to respond only to gold seen in the air. It is not necessary to cause the laser illuminator to operate at the "gold frequency" or any other frequency designated for a particular metal. The laser is only an illuminator, while discrimination is done by processing signals that are returned from receiving optics.

A more important question for this locator is "Can it find buried treasures?"
To see if this locator can detect buried gold, you would need to bury a gold item at least a few inches under the ground, wouldn't you?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

01

[quote = appeso; 103.739] Hi Manolo.
Ci dispiace, ma la tua frase in grassetto è l'informazione sbagliata. O si frainteso o il tuo amico misexpressed stesso.
The Bionic 01 modalità di ricerca è effettuata come un asse di scansione orizzontale.
Il modello iniziale non ha la funzione di pinpointer laser e il bersaglio doveva essere sempre individuato con una triangolazione.
Quindi questa informazione non è corretta.

Ora, se il nuovo modello dispone di un pinpointer laser che può essere utilizzato solo in verticale, questo semplicemente non ha senso. Scansione laser in entrambi gli assi sarebbe molto semplice utilizzando un pentaprisma, ad esempio, e sarebbe semplicemente assurdo che un asse di limitazione della individuazione dopo che il dispositivo ha rilevato un obiettivo a lunga distanza.

Immaginate se questo è accaduto per il led a infrarossi in FG80 ...

Sarò in contatto con uno dei ragazzi tech OKM in Germania e hanno lo chiarire questo punto.

Saluti. [/ Quote]
hello hung as you know I believe in lrl and I just said what I said to my friend Mark, 01 bionic 'a new lrl in Italy as soon as anyone has proven the poster' results, I also believe he can 'do errors since it has not done many tests
reguards manolo

Hi Manolo

Yes,but the first big error he have done, was to buy this useless and expensive device...
Many of my TH friends from Germany know bionic is a fraud.

Regards

[Morgan]

B-01

I know of ways to cause a detector with a laser to respond only to gold seen in the air.
A more important question is "Can it find buried treasures?"

To see if this locator can detect buried gold, you would need to bury a gold item at least a few inches under the ground, wouldn't you?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P

I know how it works OKM,some products are resonable if ground conditions are good,but this bionic is worst than mineoro,i have friends who try this near HOT places and find nothing,this is expensive LRL for rich people,not TH tool.

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

I know how it works OKM,some products are resonable if ground conditions are good,but this bionic is worst than mineoro,i have friends who try this near HOT places and find nothing,this is expensive LRL for rich people,not TH tool.

Regards

Hi Morgan,
I don't know what electronics are in this detector, but I am speculating it will detect gold you place in plain sight, and not detect any buried metal that is under the ground more than a few cm. Maybe it is useful for finding the gold necklace mixed in with junk metal that you have spread out on the table.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

B-01 and the challenge

new video in country

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akO1jzVEds8&feature=channel

if there aren't joke i think that every metal industries is finished

Hi Manolo
Tell to your friend Marco, to go to America and get the Karl´s Mega price,the Challenge...

I fell sorry for your friend in desperate atempt to prove Bionic works as LRL,i´m sure he wants to sell this device,videos are to impress people...


Regards

[hung]

Think again Morgan

Happy new year for all forum members

Hello Hung

Let me tell you that i visit OKM in Germany some years ago,when the LRL production center was near the feunf minuten strass (five minute stret).
After the OKM lrl field demonstration i come to the conclusion this products are not good. They fail completly,not found 1kg of silver objects (i buried 30 cm near the OKM factury), They said its becouse ground conditions...

Hi Morgan,

A few points to clarify.

1 - I had the proof that the Bionic 01 works when a thunter here told me he had been in an expedition with a peruvian friend who had one. My friend had his FG80 with him. They located several pounds of gold at long range. The Bionic 01 apparently in that occasion detected it first and then the FG80 followed it making my friend conclude the OKM device had more range. The FG80 was used to pinpoint the target as the Bionic at that time could not except by employing triangulation as their site shows.
Even with this apparent limitation, my friend was impressed at the detecting capabilities of the device.
Well, this was the old model.

2 - The device appearing in the videos is obviously an upgrade model with several enhancements, such as a more stable and precise circuit, for what I could see and a laser pinpointer.
The detector now features the laser pinpointer to overcome the limitation it had for pinpointing the object. The laser is absolutely not the detector itself.
It is modulated at the receiver's probes same frequency to be used in the pinpointing process.

3 - It's easy claim some detector does not work if you have not found anything with it.

I trust my friend and got a detailed report of the device behavior.
So although I'm not familiar with the device itself, I'm familiar with the technology it might employ and based on that, I can safely say they have made their homework and there is no reason at all to think that the person in the video is making everything up.

So, please change your mind.
The PD is a reality. So is the OKM's BIONIC 01.
Regards.

[Morgan]

01~Bionic

Hi Morgan,

A few points to clarify.

1 - I had the proof that the Bionic 01 works when a thunter here told me he had been in an expedition with a peruvian friend who had one. My friend had his FG80 with him. They located several pounds of gold at long range. The Bionic 01 apparently in that occasion detected it first and then the FG80 followed it making my friend conclude the OKM device had more range. The FG80 was used to pinpoint the target as the Bionic at that time could not except by employing triangulation as their site shows.
Even with this apparent limitation, my friend was impressed at the detecting capabilities of the device.
Well, this was the old model.

2 - The device appearing in the videos is obviously an upgrade model with several enhancements, such as a more stable and precise circuit, for what I could see and a laser pinpointer.
The detector now features the laser pinpointer to overcome the limitation it had for pinpointing the object. The laser is absolutely not the detector itself.
It is modulated at the receiver's probes same frequency to be used in the pinpointing process.

3 - It's easy claim some detector does not work if you have not found anything with it.

I trust my friend and got a detailed report of the device behavior.
So although I'm not familiar with the device itself, I'm familiar with the technology it might employ and based on that, I can safely say they have made their homework and there is no reason at all to think that the person in the video is making everything up.

So, please change your mind.
The PD is a reality. So is the OKM's BIONIC 01.
Regards.

Hi
In this video we can see Manolo´s friend detect at considerable distance one gold item previously buried,this means the new BIONIC is able to locate fresh buried gold at several meters distance. And if Marco is a serios person,he have one amazing LRL device,superior than my PD.
But we need to know if its all true...Yes i can change my mind

[J_Player]

Hi
In this video we can see Manolo´s friend detect at considerable distance one gold item previously buried,this means the new BIONIC is able to locate fresh buried gold at several meters distance. And if Marco is a serios person,he have one amazing LRL device,superior than my PD.
But we need to know if its all true...Yes i can change my mind

Hi Morgan,
I see a video that has the appearance of detecting a shovel handle in the air at considerable distance.
Wouldn't it be better to see the OKM detect only the buried gold with nothing else on the surface nearby?

Best wishes,
J_P

[putrechigi]

hi morgan

hi morgan nice to see you again in the forum next saturday if MARCO can go at my house i test bionic two hears ego i tell him if is possible to buy bionic and he said me that was not good lrl now is different with dis bionic 01 he tell me is very simple to find gold i not watc personali bionic at work and i said only what he said me but is serious man ha sel metal fro many ears and if wrong in italy he stopped his work you know what i want to said

P.S. in october you tell me that go in italy for to find a treasure you was?

[Fred]

You mean like a laser range-finder?

Best wishes,
J_P

Yes, or ultrasound , could be also an IR thermometer :
ULTRASONIC ROOM MEASURE DISTANCE METER WITH LASER POINT:



Non-Contact IR Infrared Thermometer Laser Gun

[Qiaozhi]

There is no indication in the video that it is able to detect a target using a horizontal sweep. In fact, an vertical sweep is used on the two gold targets, but then to "prove" that no other targets on the shelf are detected, a horizontal sweep is employed. Very suspicious.

Also, during "calibration", the user cannot keep the laser steady and it often misses the target. So what is it "calibrating"?

During "target detection" the blue LED illuminates before the laser hits the target. What's that about then?

Even if this gadget was actually capable of detecting gold at a distance, could you imagine scanning a large terrain using a small laser beam. It would take forever!

Theseus is correct. A better test would be to keep the device stationary while moving selected targets in front of the beam.

[Morgan]

Travel to Germany

hi morgan nice to see you again in the forum next saturday if MARCO can go at my house i test bionic two hears ego i tell him if is possible to buy bionic and he said me that was not good lrl now is different with dis bionic 01 he tell me is very simple to find gold i not watc personali bionic at work and i said only what he said me but is serious man ha sel metal fro many ears and if wrong in italy he stopped his work you know what i want to said

P.S. in october you tell me that go in italy for to find a treasure you was?

For personal reasons i could not go to Germany in the last october.My friends found the treasure,it was hidden during the WW II.

Well,if your friend Marco tell the true about this new BIONIC,its time for you to tell us about HOW IT WORKS, DISTANCE(single gold coin) and Depht,its very good that you can see this device working,no need to pay for plain tickets

[J_Player]

Yes, or ultrasound , could be also an IR thermometer :
ULTRASONIC ROOM MEASURE DISTANCE METER WITH LASER POINT:
Non-Contact IR Infrared Thermometer Laser Gun


Originally posted by Qiaozhi
...Even if this gadget was actually capable of detecting gold at a distance, could you imagine scanning a large terrain using a small laser beam. It would take forever!

Theseus is correct. A better test would be to keep the device stationary while moving selected targets in front of the beam.

Hi Fred,
Sure, Ultrasonic rangefinders use laser pinpointers to show what you are aiming at. But there are also laser rangefinders that do not use ultrasound. These work by measuring time of flight of laser pulses, with the advantage of better range and penetration through haze and fog. Some laser rangefinders come equipped with a monocular so you can see your target while reading the distance. The more advanced versions can display the distance of several objects at the same time. Some can even measure the distance of moving targets. These are popular with hunters, and with and golfers who want to know how far away their golf ball is.
Hmmm... If there are laser ranging optics that can identify a moving target in the OKM, then moving a gold target in front of the OKM would not show a change in its response when the target is moved..

Does the OKM use laser ranging electronics?
Maybe... didn't you see how the user kept it pointed at the top of the shovel handle right up to the final steps when he turned it off?

But suppose it is more advanced than simple laser rangefinding... Maybe it is identifying the material that the laser beam strikes. If this is the case, then we can see it identified the material in the shovel handle from at a considerable distance. It certainly was not pinpointing at the ground where the gold was buried. The video clearly shows him pinpointing the shovel handle, conveniently placed a few feet above the ground where the laser beam could hit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akO1jzVEds8&feature=channel

I think I can locate all treasures buried below a shovel in the air without using a laser to help me.
I wonder if the OKM can identify buried gold when there is no shovel to aim at?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Bionic 01-for TH dreamers

For personal reasons i could not go to Germany in the last october.My friends found the treasure,it was hidden during the WW II.

Well,if your friend Marco tell the true about this new BIONIC,its time for you to tell us about HOW IT WORKS, DISTANCE(single gold coin) and Depht,its very good that you can see this device working,no need to pay for plain tickets

This girl,owner of BIONIC 01,said i can find TREASURE 15 Km distance and buried 20 m . Its amazing I think the TH Odissey need this new device