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  • Originally posted by Fred
    Ok, those devices don“t rely on ion emanations to detect gold. I understand.


    My conclusion is that they only detect non-buried gold.
    Hi Fred,

    Have you forgotten they also detect non-buried shovel handles? Maybe they detect anything you can hold in the air.
    Maybe this is why German treasure hunters say they don't find buried treasure ...
    things in the air are not buried treasures, and do not need to be located.
    They can buy locators from Leica and Carl Zeiss that also locate things in the air for a lot less money.

    Here is a magician's guide to the youtube video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akO1jzVEds8&feature=channel
    Attached Files

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    • hi at hall

      ok perfect I see that many have 'drawn the conclusions, I respect but do not share them, I apologize to anyone who wanted more news, but the tests we do "positive or negative will be" soon will not be posted, if you're interested contact me in mp


      regardless of what you think if bionic not work, I'd be the first to say, just waiting to do tests before coming to conclusions
      reguards

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      • Originally posted by putrechigi View Post
        regardless of what you think if bionic not work, I'd be the first to say, just waiting to do tests before coming to conclusions
        I agree. Like the Mineoro, the Bionic "seems too good to be true," so cautious skepticism is certainly warranted. But, also like the Mineoro, I'll wait to see it in person before I make a conclusion.

        I've called Frank Casser, OKM rep in the US, and he has a Bionic 01 in hand. However, he's in south Florida, I'm in Oregon, and right now neither of us have travel plans that put us close together. But we are going to stay in touch and eventually arrange a demonstration.

        I had hopes that someone else in the US might own one by now, but he did not know of anyone who's bought one.

        - Carl

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        • Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
          I agree. Like the Mineoro, the Bionic "seems too good to be true," so cautious skepticism is certainly warranted. But, also like the Mineoro, I'll wait to see it in person before I make a conclusion.

          - Carl
          ...And you intend to test it on your electric dog fence as you did with the FG80, I suppose?

          You see Carl, this is just one of the reasons experienced LRL users bash you over TNET.
          You simply discard owners and LRL user testimonies if it does not fit your agenda.

          I don't have the slightest doubt the Bionic 01 works. So does Mineoro, Electroscope, RT, you name it.
          Why? Because in the case of Mineoros and RT, I found gold with them many times.
          In the case of the Electroscope, there's David Villanuevas' testimony. In the case of the previous Bionic 01 model, I have my friend's testimony.

          When you discard all our testimonies, you start to act as irrational and altist, ignoring evidences of sucessful users. And by doing that, you infer we are all liers.

          The question in debate is how good the BIonic 01 performs.

          You still keep 'hammering' your old motto regarding if some device works or not. C'mon, wake up! We are in 2010!
          When you had the opportunity to get a FG80 in your hands, I came forward to offer all my help because I knew that with the device, you would find gold if you were true in your cause and if you wished to find gold indeed. I wanted to see your sincerity.

          We all know how it ended, don't we Carl?
          That's why you have never been taken seriously by the experienced LRL users over TNET.

          It's clear as fresh water...
          "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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          • Originally posted by hung View Post
            << comedy routine snipped >>
            That's why you have never been taken seriously by the experienced LRL users over TNET.
            Who exactly are these experienced LRL users over on Tnet?

            Would that be Art and Mike?

            Surely, you jest!




            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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            • Originally posted by hung
              The question in debate is how good the BIonic 01 performs.
              Hmmm...

              If the question of the debate is how good the Bionic 01 performs, then the answer can best be determined by watching a Bionic 01 perform live in front of you, and trying it out with your own hands. I agree with Carl. Putrechigi has the right idea... He is going to live a demonstration to see how good it works right in front of him with a chance to try it out himself. I can't think of a better way than that.

              Expecting us to believe your second-hand reports from your friend who says his friend located several pounds of gold with a Bionic 01 won't work. Only a fool would buy an expensive locator that not even you would buy, yet you urge us to believe it works because a friend of a friend say it works.


              Originally posted by hung
              I don't have the slightest doubt the Bionic 01 works. So does Mineoro, Electroscope, RT, you name it.
              Why? Because in the case of Mineoros and RT, I found gold with them many times.
              It almost sounds like you have some motive to get people to believe all LRLs work.
              BTW, aren't you a friend of employees and owners of the Mineoro LRL factory near your home in Brazil?


              Best wishes,
              J_P

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              • Originally posted by putrechigi View Post
                ok perfect I see that many have 'drawn the conclusions, I respect but do not share them, I apologize to anyone who wanted more news, but the tests we do "positive or negative will be" soon will not be posted, if you're interested contact me in mp


                regardless of what you think if bionic not work, I'd be the first to say, just waiting to do tests before coming to conclusions
                reguards
                Hello Putre,

                Firstable happy new year and yes I'm interested by your test.

                Sincerly

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                • Originally posted by hung View Post
                  Why? Because in the case of Mineoros and RT, I found gold with them many times.
                  That doesn“t means they are working LRL“s.I have found gold with car keys in my pocket and they are no LRL.

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                  • I am waiting to test the unit here on my test targets. Frank was very nice and will contact me next month for a meeting. I will keep all informed.
                    Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                    • Originally posted by hung View Post
                      You simply discard owners and LRL user testimonies if it does not fit your agenda.

                      When you discard all our testimonies, you start to act as irrational and altist, ignoring evidences of sucessful users. And by doing that, you infer we are all liers.
                      I have always conceded that some people who use LRLs (or who just dowse) have actually found things. But I don't give testimonials a lot of weight, because I know that other factors may have been the reason for success. Quite often, LRLers will admit that these other factors were in play, but they still give the LRL the nod.

                      Ferinstance, many LRLers admit they use a metal detector to check each target location the LRL "finds." If the MD indicates a good target, they dig it. If it doesn't, they walk on. I don't consider this kind of LRL "success" worth considering. However, the LRLer isn't a liar, and I would not even hint that he is. But he probably is self-deceived.

                      As always, I am open to anyone showing me that I'm wrong. Anyone is welcomed to demonstrate an LRL to me, and they can demonstrate it in any way they wish. BUT... they will, at some point in the demonstration, have to succeed under randomized blind conditions if they want me to take the results seriously.

                      - Carl

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                      • "Shovel locator" - that's what it is!

                        Nothing on those videos that can prove anything. Sorry. Better luck next time. For my account; Bionic is just another expensive FRAUD and nothing else.

                        BTW; what is the role of that funny LCD? Just to display few nonsences and nothing else??? To improve overall design? To make it look more "profy"?
                        B.S.!!! B.S.!!! B.S.!!!
                        Only naive idiot can waste money on such rubbish!

                        Since Carl is to cultural and becoming to say this, i will say it here, very loud;

                        LIARS, CHEATS, THIEFS, MOUNTEBANKS!!!

                        Shovel could be specially prepared for this video. Few batteries and small TX inside shovel tube (stick). Easy and sweet!
                        http://www.infowars.com

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                        • "..I have always conceded that some people who use LRLs (or who just dowse) have actually found things..."

                          Like hell!
                          Blind hen will find more grains.
                          For over the 20 years i've been waiting JUST/AT LEAST one dowser to prove at least ONE and only sure find in front of my eyes! Nobody succeed so far! Neither one! Among hundreds i've met and tested so far. Neither one founded nothing so far. Nothing! All i heard were empty tales and sweet lies and nothing else.


                          http://www.infowars.com

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                          • Carl your $25000 are SURE and SAFE forever!
                            Fort Knox!
                            http://www.infowars.com

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                            • Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
                              As always, I am open to anyone showing me that I'm wrong. - Carl
                              No, you're not. And never were.

                              Folks at TNET ferinstance, have proved you wrong many times.
                              Sooner or later you will eventually wake up. Not to the fact LRLs are a reality. You'll wake up to figure that your own attitudes towards this subject is way nonsense.
                              And outdated.
                              "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                              • Originally posted by hung View Post
                                Folks at TNET ferinstance, have proved you wrong many times.
                                They've disagreed with me, and they've posted lots of testimonials, but no "proof." Heck, I've personally MET some of the TNet denizens over the years, and every single one of them failed when they tried to demonstrate an LRL to me.

                                How can I possibly believe that LRLs work when every single demonstration (by others, not me!) has resulted in failure? And yet I'm still willing to let anyone try. I've offered to visit Dell, Mike-Mont, Art, and others. Sorry, South America is not on my list right now.

                                - Carl

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