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  • @ Morgan
    pm me the mail of this cuty girl and I'll find with here some treasures for sure!

    And Morgan - electro is not magnetic is not gravity is not 4dimensional "Einstein field". For getting the most success we have always to select the right definitions. There are also theories out there about scalar waves and "remembering atomar particles" - see the Schroedingers Experiment and the behavior of light like wave and materie. This is a complex topic. Hell, what a complicated world? And we should discover and handle it right to discover the most precious treasures!

    @ xyz = "variable":
    I really have something against that whole impution that all those LRL producers just built their LRLs to fool, rob and beass other people. Please think twice: Would YOU built such stuff just for making "easy n dirty money"? Would you really like to go that risky way?

    Why you just can think those MD inventors try their best but the whole "LRL thing" is a real not easy topic?!

    Do you really think everyone out there is a thief and goes over bodys for his own salvation?

    @ Morgan
    At least the Bionic Alpha or 01 can restrict the detection range or wideness degree of the searched target very good, or what do you think?

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      Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
      @ Morgan
      pm me the mail of this cuty girl and I'll find with here some treasures for sure!

      And Morgan - electro is not magnetic is not gravity is not 4dimensional "Einstein field". For getting the most success we have always to select the right definitions. There are also theories out there about scalar waves and "remembering atomar particles" - see the Schroedingers Experiment and the behavior of light like wave and materie. This is a complex topic. Hell, what a complicated world? And we should discover and handle it right to discover the most precious treasures!

      @ xyz = "variable":
      I really have something against that whole impution that all those LRL producers just built their LRLs to fool, rob and beass other people. Please think twice: Would YOU built such stuff just for making "easy n dirty money"? Would you really like to go that risky way?

      Why you just can think those MD inventors try their best but the whole "LRL thing" is a real not easy topic?!

      Do you really think everyone out there is a thief and goes over bodys for his own salvation?

      @ Morgan
      At least the Bionic Alpha or 01 can restrict the detection range or wideness degree of the searched target very good, or what do you think?

      The BIONIC 01 is not good LRL,this is for sure,and the BIONIC ALPHA i cant say nothing about,i never try and dont know people who try this OKM detector...

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      • Hi everybody...i'm new here and haven't read all the posts about BIONIC 01
        BUT.....once i have it in my hands and i made many tests since today ,i have to give you the results and if somebody can explain be my guest..

        So , i ve got 20 gold coins to callibrate it.I put the device to ionic mode and i point the coins using the laser (always from north to south).When the device autolocks a frequency from target (gold coins) i lock the frequency and it's ready.After that wherever i put the gold (on the surface) i find it even if it's behind huge rocks or woods or the other side of the hill and even if i can't see the place i put it to the other side of the hill.That's for sure...
        I also put the gold into the soil about 30-40 cm depth.I found it again easy from 50m away and from many angles (but always having north to my back).

        So... i don't say the device is good or not..afterall it's not mine (i wouldn't give so easy 13000euros)...but ..how can you explain all these...it could help me to understand if all this i get is true or something else that i don't have the technical knowledge to explain.
        Anyway if somebody has a good explanation for this let me know ..i ve got the device and i can test it again .
        The sure is that i find the gold anywhere around but i don't know if this is based on ionic or electromagnetic or fake targeting.
        Thanks and waiting (sorry for the bad english)

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        • Originally posted by georgegino View Post

          .... or fake targeting.
          .... fake for sure (as your promotion too)
          Global capital is ruining your life?
          You have right to self-defence!

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          • Originally posted by georgegino View Post
            Hi everybody...i'm new here and haven't read all the posts about BIONIC 01
            BUT.....once i have it in my hands and i made many tests since today ,i have to give you the results and if somebody can explain be my guest..

            So , i ve got 20 gold coins to callibrate it.I put the device to ionic mode and i point the coins using the laser (always from north to south).When the device autolocks a frequency from target (gold coins) i lock the frequency and it's ready.After that wherever i put the gold (on the surface) i find it even if it's behind huge rocks or woods or the other side of the hill and even if i can't see the place i put it to the other side of the hill.That's for sure...
            I also put the gold into the soil about 30-40 cm depth.I found it again easy from 50m away and from many angles (but always having north to my back).

            So... i don't say the device is good or not..afterall it's not mine (i wouldn't give so easy 13000euros)...but ..how can you explain all these...it could help me to understand if all this i get is true or something else that i don't have the technical knowledge to explain.
            Anyway if somebody has a good explanation for this let me know ..i ve got the device and i can test it again .
            The sure is that i find the gold anywhere around but i don't know if this is based on ionic or electromagnetic or fake targeting.
            Thanks and waiting (sorry for the bad english)
            Georgino friend you could post your video tests to see us thank you good luck with your device...
            Thank you very much...

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            • Bionic LRL Electrostatic?

              In watching the movie I noticed the shovel next to the target in one scene and gold in plastic bag in another. A shovel stuck into the ground like that will accumulate an electrostatic charge and discharge into the air as the charge build up is too much to stay on the shovel. The gold in the plastic bag is also another ES charge collector. Plastic is notorious for ES charge collection.

              So is the Bionic an electrostatic type of detector?

              I have built several ES detectors and ion discharge detectors have a definite frequency pattern. You can hook up an oscope and watch ES ion discharge. That is they type of pattern my ION detector uses.

              Maybe there is some ionic discharges that the Bionic records when it is being calibrated and then "looks" for that type of discharge pattern. Maybe the gurus like Esteban who claim their ES detectors do do something useful for metal detection but are too primitive to go the extra mile and look for some specific discharge signal peculiar to gold. ES discharge is everywhere. Just walk across some gravel and you get ion discharges. It stands to reason that different sized ions will have different discharge patterns.

              Just an observation. Someone with one of those machines could do some tests if they have the proper test equipment. OR hook up the Zahori or other ES/ion detector to an oscope and do some actual testing instead of all this BS rhetoric and claim w/ nothing scientific.

              GoldFinder

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              • Originally posted by georgegino View Post
                Hi everybody...i'm new here and haven't read all the posts about BIONIC 01
                BUT.....once i have it in my hands and i made many tests since today ,i have to give you the results and if somebody can explain be my guest..

                So , i ve got 20 gold coins to callibrate it.I put the device to ionic mode and i point the coins using the laser (always from north to south).When the device autolocks a frequency from target (gold coins) i lock the frequency and it's ready.After that wherever i put the gold (on the surface) i find it even if it's behind huge rocks or woods or the other side of the hill and even if i can't see the place i put it to the other side of the hill.That's for sure...
                I also put the gold into the soil about 30-40 cm depth.I found it again easy from 50m away and from many angles (but always having north to my back).

                So... i don't say the device is good or not..afterall it's not mine (i wouldn't give so easy 13000euros)...but ..how can you explain all these...it could help me to understand if all this i get is true or something else that i don't have the technical knowledge to explain.
                Anyway if somebody has a good explanation for this let me know ..i ve got the device and i can test it again .
                The sure is that i find the gold anywhere around but i don't know if this is based on ionic or electromagnetic or fake targeting.
                Thanks and waiting (sorry for the bad english)
                Thanks Georgino.
                Always pointing south due to the edge peak eliptical emanation.

                As I stated earlier, the Bionic 01 works.
                Actually it worked previous to the laser implementation. I feel they evolved in the frequency sensor. It's wonderful what a simple Motorola processor can do the an LRL.

                What happens when you turn the laser off and only work in bio mode?

                PS. Price AFAIK is 8500 euros, not 13000.
                "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                • Hi georgegino!

                  This is very good you found and joined this forum because here exists a really huge information-vaccuum about the OKM Bionic units.

                  We have to be shure if the Bionic 01 does or doesn't work but if you claim it works we need to do some serious test-experiments!


                  1. detection angle in degrees
                  put the goldcoins 10m in front of you and put some 2m ruler nearby. Tell us how many centimeter or inches from left to right a single coin gets detected.

                  2. detection of different gold
                  you can use your gold coins for calibration but also position some object consiting of other gold in the testfield. We need to know if it can recognise all kind of gold - gold-alloys.

                  3. Put the gold-coin into a small iron-box or tin-can and tell us if it get's still detected

                  4. film all of these tests and up them to youtube if possible

                  5. try to find out and tell us the maximum detection range of a single gold coin. The first time detect the coin from north in direction south and the second time vice-versa - we also have to know how good it works from south to north.

                  6. Make the distance test with single coin on sunny and on rainy weather. We need to know how it works on bad weather and if it works at all if it rains.

                  7. Tell us what kind of metals you can detect at all and from what distance.

                  8. Put gold-coin 10cm under water and check if it still get detected.

                  9. How long lasts the battery or accu-pack and did you get a 2nd as reserve?

                  10. How much have you or the person from where you got the Bionic 01 paid for this device and do you think it's really worth the money?


                  Thanks for your interrest and I hope we hear soon from your first test-results.

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                  • Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                    .... fake for sure (as your promotion too)
                    So..as I said -if somebody 's got a good expanation it would be good to post it.......my friend WM6.Anyway ,I've got the device and maybe I'll do some tests and upload them.As I said the device IS NOT mine and I don't want to sell it or buy it or promote it.Maybe some of you are promoters for other devices and didn't like my post.
                    Ok... Everything I wrote is true and accurate and I can prove it anytime with a video.But this is not the point.I don't mind if the device called okm or fisher or Garret or whatever.It came in my hands by luck , I tested it under some conditions and I got the results I posted.It's the first time I use a lrl as you call it and I'm not a spesialist.
                    My friend WM6 ,you can thing what you want I don't mind,but as I said-if you ve got a good explanation for my testing results , post it-if you don't let the others say their opinion.

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                    • Originally posted by georgegino View Post

                      My friend WM6 ,you can thing what you want I don't mind,but as I said-if you ve got a good explanation for my testing results , post it-if you don't let the others say their opinion.
                      My dear friend georgegino, there is no problem to do some test.

                      Question is if you wish to present to all us here a scientifically valid test or only "usual believer test".

                      So, problem is how you perform your test to be scientifically valid?

                      Par example: test cannot be scientifically valid if you know where test target is buried etc. (thema widelly discussed here in past).

                      Please read this for start:

                      http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/dbtesting.dat

                      http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/jref/matter.dat

                      http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/dbtest.dat


                      Global capital is ruining your life?
                      You have right to self-defence!

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                      • Originally posted by hung View Post
                        As I stated earlier, the Bionic 01 works.
                        Have you actually had one in your hands and tested it?

                        Originally posted by hung View Post
                        What happens when you turn the laser off and only work in bio mode?
                        Hmmm... obviously the answer is "no", otherwise you would not be asking this question.

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                        • Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                          My dear friend georgegino, there is no problem to do some test.

                          Question is if you wish to present to all us here a scientifically valid test or only "usual believer test".

                          So, problem is how you perform your test to be scientifically valid?

                          Par example: test cannot be scientifically valid if you know where test target is buried etc. (thema widelly discussed here in past).

                          Please read this for start:

                          http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/dbtesting.dat

                          http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/jref/matter.dat

                          http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/dbtest.dat


                          Ok this is a better approach from your side now.I really wanna know if the device is working or not because i live in a place that have much to give.So i can help you and you can help me too.
                          First of all i say again that i made some tests in the mountain away from rivers and i didn't read the guides you gave me.All the tests made with english gold coins and this is what i'm interested for.We where 5 people in those tests helping (like hiding the coins ...).All the tests made having north in my back and the ungle wasn't more than 45 degrees.I did the calibration on the 20 coins from 10 meters away (having the coins on the ground or in the air into a plastic or on the rocks or on the woods)
                          So..50% of the tests made with the coins ON the surface of the ground and at max distanse 200 meters away from the device.
                          40% made with the coins INTO the pockets of my friends (they where changing places in the other side of a hill about 200 meters away and i couldn't see them-i used another friend in the top of the hill to see if i found them)
                          10% made with the coins burried into the ground in about 40 cm depth
                          (For somebody who asked the laser is just for pointing the coins till the callibration and not a part of sensoring).
                          Well i don't know if my tests match with your specifications BUT i found the coins in all of these tests and from deferent angles.
                          Also i don't undersand way is a problem to know where the target is...could i make the device beeping only looking at the coins if it wasn't able to detect it?
                          I used only the ionic mode and i didn't isolated my self.I didn't use bionic mode cause the device didn't respond as i wanted and anyway i need only the ionic mode for buried treasures like omd says.
                          That s it for now..i'm going to read the threads you posted wm6 and i'll do the tests again ...but what do you think..all these i said is nothing?How do you believe i was able to detect the coins even if the device is not a real lrl?How i was able to find them in the other side of the hill even if i couldn't see them and even if i was changing my position and their position too?
                          I'm not a scientist and for sure i didn't make the tests like your guides say but i had a result.
                          Im waiting for opinions till i make the tests again.
                          I have to say that the device some times was beeping and out of the target (like when i was near the river) but this doesn't change the results on the real target and the device's hypothetical ability to find AND the real target also (if it can or all this is a "usual believer thing "for me as you said).

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                          • Hi georgino, I find interesting your experience whith bionic but forgive me I have to see something whith my eyes to believe it.I never had one in my hands and until that happen I like to know other peoples experience whith it.
                            Are you Greek georgino?

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                            • Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                              Hi georgino, I find interesting your experience whith bionic but forgive me I have to see something whith my eyes to believe it.I never had one in my hands and until that happen I like to know other peoples experience whith it.
                              Are you Greek georgino?
                              Γεια σου φιλε..για τη ωρα δεν μπορω να σου δωσω περισσοτερα προσωπικα στοιχεια ,αλλα οπως βλεπεις ειμαι πατριωτακι και απο οτι καταλλαβα υπαρχουν και αλλα Ελληνακια στο φορουμ.Αυτα που διαβασες ειναι ολα οπως τα λεω,αλλα αν ασχολεισαι λιγο με τετοια ξερεις οτι ..αλλο τα τεστ και αλλο στην πραξη.Το μονο σιγουρο ειναι οτι δεν προσπαθω να διαφημησω η να πουλησω το εργαλειο οπως εγραψε ο φιλος.Δεν με ενδιαφερει καθολου ουτε τι μαρκα ειναι ουτε η προελευση.Εγω το πηρα τυχαια απο ενα γνωστο που το αγορασε αλλα δεν καταφερε να το δουλεψει μια και δεν κατεχει και πολλα και προσπαθω να δω αν οντως καταφερνει να κανει κατι.Μεχρι στιγμης κατι κανει αλλα τα τεστ δεν εγιναν οπως γραφουν τα παλικαρια εδω μεσα και δεν μπορω να ισχυριστω ακραδαντα οτι δουλευει.Θα δουμε λοιπον..

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