A patent to detect substances by infrared like Esteban used.

[ivconic]

Esteban, I have warned you many times about the things that have just happened. Simply these people don't share the type of knowledge we have.
It would be just a matter of time for this to happen to you.

Again, we already have working LRLs, and also we evolved along time in this matter. There's no reason for you to remain here reading the posts we use to read. We need to evolve this discussion with higher subjects, not keep referencing things with the ones who ignore them and always will. If we put everybody on the ignore list, we will end up getting rid of them but still they will read us and to our own ideas.
Our email closed group was much more profitable in terms of knowledge. I am currently more on TNET as sketptics there are more educated and LRL users are always in advantage since we are in great number and the skeptics are just annoying a little bit.
I am ready to leave this forum for good with you if you chooses it so and get back to the email closed group with the few selected members.
You can also filter this forum in a way that you only watch it with no personal participation.

Whatever you choose let me know.
Again, we don't need keep discussing things in this forum anymore. It's much past the time to quit this.

Regards.

That's not a friendly advice.
Whenever face the obstacle - to run away from it.

More friendly advice would be something in manner:

"...oh hell! let's give to this sceptics at least something, good enough to persuade them in our "truth".."

Look at me; whenever i want to attract public attention to some project i simply do post everything! Simply as that!
It is not that i am affraid to loose something!? What will i loose?
I can only profit from that by collecting others opinions, hints and advices, later after project was posted.
Many times same thing happened; in the middle of progress i stucked somewhere, or made some mistake, or missunderstood something. Than i posted everything and shortly after i got solution from others. For 80% of my working devices i have to thank to others , mostly members of these forums.
...
Even when i didn't need any help, even when i had working device by my own - even than i decided to post everything and to share with others. Why? Simply because i have nothing to loose. And also why not to share with people. Why not?
Do i am affraid that somebody will take advantage of my work and make a fortune!? Hell no! If that one is capable to make a fortune than why not? I will salute to him and his fortune! Better even he than nobody...
...
But..that's only me. I guess i am to naive for this world...

[ivconic]

Look just White's, Minelab, Tesoro, Fisher, Cscope, Garrett...etc..etc..
Do they busted because we here are copying their intelectual property? Do they complain on us? Do they prohibit majority of their project documentation?
I don't think so.
They are probably not happy but also they didn't busted. Also many of them released much of project documentation free. Not for latest technology , of course. But even if they release their latest technology for free...what than?
Who can take advantage of that? Who will bust them?
N O B O D Y ! Not possible! Not in this world.

Than i don't understand why is so conspiracy present arround "working LRL"???
Only one way to explain that - no such thing as working LRL. Those don't exist. Those are just sweet dreams and nothing else...

Subject of this topic is excellent example of bogus interpretation of some scientific quotes.
Scientific quotes taken from their origin context and mixed up togather with pseudoscience...and all that packed in a regular patent! Wow!
I am (not) impressed!

[Astrodetect]

You don't have nothing workable and provable to offer here!

Esteban! So far you posted only nonsences and thumbnail schematics...also faked to make impression that there is something for real there!

What are YOU doing here Esteban???

Please point me to ONLY ONE of your previous post where you contributed to this forum by posting something real about LRL!?
ONLY ONE and i will be satisfied.....

[/quote]

Thats not true Ivconic,Esteban has contributed a very large amount of information on this subject.Also he has given many block diagrams on how the LRL's are working and about Infrared also.If you do a view ALL topics from Esteban you will see how much Esteban has contributed to this forum. About giving out schematics, if you have the block diagram I imagine you can come up with a working circuit, dont you think??

Thanks Esteban Hung Morgan Tim Dell Detectoman Geo and anybody else who works with LRL's, keep posting your experiences and information on this fascinating subject. Dont forget US.Forget the Skeptics!!!!!!!
Thanks...............

[Astrodetect]

Esteban, I have warned you many times about the things that have just happened. Simply these people don't share the type of knowledge we have.
It would be just a matter of time for this to happen to you.

Again, we already have working LRLs, and also we evolved along time in this matter. There's no reason for you to remain here reading the posts we use to read. We need to evolve this discussion with higher subjects, not keep referencing things with the ones who ignore them and always will. If we put everybody on the ignore list, we will end up getting rid of them but still they will read us and to our own ideas.
Our email closed group was much more profitable in terms of knowledge. I am currently more on TNET as sketptics there are more educated and LRL users are always in advantage since we are in great number and the skeptics are just annoying a little bit.
I am ready to leave this forum for good with you if you chooses it so and get back to the email closed group with the few selected members.
You can also filter this forum in a way that you only watch it with no personal participation.

Whatever you choose let me know.
Again, we don't need keep discussing things in this forum anymore. It's much past the time to quit this.

Regards.

Hi Hung
I agree with you and if you dont mind I would also like to converse on a higher level about LRL technology with you Guys, we are NOT all skeptics.
Regards

[ivconic]

"..Thats not true Ivconic,Esteban has contributed a very large amount of information on this subject.Also he has given many block diagrams on how the LRL's are working and about Infrared also.If you do a view ALL topics from Esteban you will see how much Esteban has contributed to this forum. About giving out schematics, if you have the block diagram I imagine you can come up with a working circuit, dont you think??

Thanks Esteban Hung Morgan Tim Dell Detectoman Geo and anybody else who works with LRL's, keep posting your experiences and information on this fascinating subject. Dont forget US.Forget the Skeptics!!!!!!!
Thanks.."



It was my quote from his post aimed to me. So it was only rethorical.
Of course that i agree about Estebans contribution. I am awared of that already. But in a heat of argue i just quoted that like contra argument.
Childish games...me, him, evrybody else...
Now i am cool and do not intend to keep with such stuff.
As far as i am concerned, LRL topics would be out of my focus from now on...because i already have been told by Esteban and Hung that i will never get nothing from them. So...why wasting my time here, anymore?
Regards!

[Esteban]

You don't have nothing workable and provable to offer here!

Esteban! So far you posted only nonsences and thumbnail schematics...also faked to make impression that there is something for real there!

What are YOU doing here Esteban???

Please point me to ONLY ONE of your previous post where you contributed to this forum by posting something real about LRL!?
ONLY ONE and i will be satisfied.....

Thats not true Ivconic,Esteban has contributed a very large amount of information on this subject.Also he has given many block diagrams on how the LRL's are working and about Infrared also.If you do a view ALL topics from Esteban you will see how much Esteban has contributed to this forum. About giving out schematics, if you have the block diagram I imagine you can come up with a working circuit, dont you think??

Thanks Esteban Hung Morgan Tim Dell Detectoman Geo and anybody else who works with LRL's, keep posting your experiences and information on this fascinating subject. Dont forget US.Forget the Skeptics!!!!!!!
Thanks...............[/quote]

Thanks. But you don't need respond him. You're in risk to suffer all types of insults by the other "Stevan", you know "who" is. I ignored him and others few.

[ivconic]

Ivica, please cut out the personal comments. Esteban is free to share or not share whatever he wants. I will begin lopping posts if this continues.

Carl do you have double standards here?

[WM6]

I ignored him and others few.

Then you admit that you are ignorant.

Impotence argument is still ignorance.

[Morgan]

LRL´s

Thats not true Ivconic,Esteban has contributed a very large amount of information on this subject.Also he has given many block diagrams on how the LRL's are working and about Infrared also.If you do a view ALL topics from Esteban you will see how much Esteban has contributed to this forum. About giving out schematics, if you have the block diagram I imagine you can come up with a working circuit, dont you think??

Thanks Esteban Hung Morgan Tim Dell Detectoman Geo and anybody else who works with LRL's, keep posting your experiences and information on this fascinating subject. Dont forget US.Forget the Skeptics!!!!!!!
Thanks...............

Thanks. But you don't need respond him. You're in risk to suffer all types of insults by the other "Stevan", you know "who" is. I ignored him and others few.[/quote]
Hi Esteban

I share the same opinion as Astrodetect about you,but as you can see costantly you are victim of insult from skeptics? I dont think so,insults come allways from people who believe in LRL´s BUT WANT YOU GIVE WORKING LRL FOR THEM,this not happen,start the war...
Yes,you give so many schematics and clues about LRL´s,but they want one complete !!!
Why you dont give them what they want???
I give them the Pistoldetektor,they are not satisfied,NOW ITS YOUR TURN
The best LRL teacher
Regards

[Morgan]

Tons of LRL

Thanks. But you don't need respond him. You're in risk to suffer all types of insults by the other "Stevan", you know "who" is. I ignored him and others few.

Hi Esteban

I share the same opinion as Astrodetect about you,but as you can see costantly you are victim of insult from skeptics? I dont think so,insults come allways from people who believe in LRL´s BUT WANT YOU GIVE WORKING LRL FOR THEM,this not happen,start the war...
Yes,you give so many schematics and clues about LRL´s,but they want one complete !!!
Why you dont give them what they want???
I give them the Pistoldetektor,they are not satisfied,NOW ITS YOUR TURN
The best LRL teacher
Regards[/quote]



I have schematics of most LRL´s (was given by friends,other i buy)

MINEORO
DCH85
BLUE PD (Esteban version of DCH85)
ICONOS
OKM figther
BFO PD
IB PD(Alonso)
RAM-KA
Zahori

A lot of them,but wath happens if i put this schematics here?, I WILL HAVE BIG PROBLEMS...
So,Esteban you are the person who can give ONE LRL to this forum,something that you can share with this people and not regret .

Abrazos

[Geo]

Hi Morgan.
I believe that it is not the time that Esteban will post a full working LRL.
He will tell some secrets yet, slowly-slowly and maybe to later to give a schematic for the others, because all we would be very old for TH.

Regards

[WM6]

He will tell some secrets yet, slowly-slowly and maybe to later to give a schematic for the others, because all we would be very old for TH.

Hi Geo,

what secrets post Esteban yet? I didnt find any.

The only carefully kept Esteban secret is that no one of his creations is working. No one!

This showed Esteban itself in that he is time and time again looking for a working LRL.

All is only disgrace concealed in the secret - old manipulators trick.

If Esteban really have a working LRL, would have posted it long ago. But they have nothing, except funny creations.

Estebans only solution is packaged failure in mystery of secrets.

Sceptic are open to LRL research and are willing to contribute in all real LRL things, but not open to scam companies as mineoro, rangertell etc. and his promotors. Here must be clear distinctions between hobby and scam business.

You are right: "all we would be very old", maybe we need even seven reincarnation.

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban

I share the same opinion as Astrodetect about you,but as you can see costantly you are victim of insult from skeptics? I dont think so,insults come allways from people who believe in LRL´s BUT WANT YOU GIVE WORKING LRL FOR THEM,this not happen,start the war...
Yes,you give so many schematics and clues about LRL´s,but they want one complete !!!
Why you dont give them what they want???
I give them the Pistoldetektor,they are not satisfied,NOW ITS YOUR TURN
The best LRL teacher
Regards

I have schematics of most LRL´s (was given by friends,other i buy)

MINEORO
DCH85
BLUE PD (Esteban version of DCH85)
ICONOS
OKM figther
BFO PD
IB PD(Alonso)
RAM-KA
Zahori

A lot of them,but wath happens if i put this schematics here?, I WILL HAVE BIG PROBLEMS...
So,Esteban you are the person who can give ONE LRL to this forum,something that you can share with this people and not regret .

Abrazos[/quote]

I am acting as a prudent person. Then the time gives me the reason.

[WM6]

I am acting as a prudent person. Then the time gives me the reason.

Reason for what? To not publish schematic of working LRL?

Are you publish such schematic in past "as a prudent person"? No, you never publish nothing, except yet published "copy-paste" thing and electronic bizzarities.

But now you are world biggest victim pushed in secrecy and in creation of ignore list.

[Fred]

A lot of them,but wath happens if i put this schematics here?, I WILL HAVE BIG PROBLEMS...

What problems? patents problems ?
In this forum there is a lot of schematics of (really) patented detectors from really big companies, it is all right and nobody has got "BIG PROBLEMS".