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  • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
    Hi Esteban,
    This is an interesting answer, but it does not answer my question.
    I asked if you have ever seen an actual print from made from the negative that was taken from a camera with an IR filter?

    Apparently you have not. The photos you posted do not look like photos taken from a camera with a that blocks visible light and passes IR.
    You would know these are not IR photos if you had seen real photos taken from a camera that was modified to pass IR and block visible light.

    The particular photos you showed are images that show ordinary light colors, not the monochrome that is seen from an IR photo. Since you don't say you have seen any actual IR photos, I can see how you would not know that the photos you posted are not real IR photos that have the visible light filtered out so only IR is showing.

    Best wishes,
    J_P
    I never have seen, only in the book... The book refers in many parts the use of IR filters.
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      • I will be sure if after digging take photos. If aura persist 1 hour or more... maybe isn't aura. This I do with pistol. But the "phenomenon" can remain 1 minute after digging, no more, for small item. Don't know remanence for big item as treasure.

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        • posts#284&285
          Originally Posted by J_Player

          The particular photos you showed are images that show ordinary light colors, not the monochrome that is seen from an IR photo. Since you are saying you have not seen any actual IR photos, I can see how you would not know that the photos you posted are not real IR photos that have the visible light filtered out so only IR is showing.
          Originally posted by WM6 View Post
          Very doubtful photos, indeed. It was some possibilities to get such photos by ordinary (not IR modified) camera too. But if camera was modified maybe other light spectrum was only half filtered (need more layer of filter foil). In this case even headlamp which lit on grass not need to be infrared, it can be only ordinary red lamp to get virtual "aura". Anyway, as you say, this is not real passive IR scan (photos).
          post#262
          Originally Posted by hung
          They are from the famous polaroids of the 70's with time zero film as used by Louis Matacia.
          Later it was discovered that digital cameras did even a better job with the IR filters.
          Amazing.
          This doubt was solved in post #262, but 25 posts later these two fellas still can't spot the answer...
          Autist skepthics are the hardest ones.
          OK. Let's become even more specific. The polaroid pictures were made NOT employing IR filters. Got it now?
          "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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          • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
            I know about the possibility. I read in a book. But never I experiment with it.
            Originally posted by hung View Post
            posts#284&285


            post#262
            Amazing.
            This doubt was solved in post #262, but 25 posts later these two fellas still can't spot the answer...
            Autist skepthics are the hardest ones.
            OK. Let's become even more specific. The polaroid pictures ARE NOT employing IR filters. Got it now?
            Whether you wish to be pedantic or not, the bottom-line is simply that this so-called technique is absolutely useless for finding real treasure. The only treasure goes to the author of the book, who manages to sell copies to technically-challenged individuals such as yourself.

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            • Originally posted by Esteban View Post
              I will be sure if after digging take photos. If aura persist 1 hour or more... maybe isn't aura. This I do with pistol. But the "phenomenon" can remain 1 minute after digging, no more, for small item. Don't know remanence for big item as treasure.
              Hi Esteban.
              I saw the remaining of the phenomenon for 5 minutes after the digging.

              Regards
              Geo

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              • Originally posted by hung View Post

                Amazing.
                This doubt was solved in post #262, but 25 posts later these two fellas still can't spot the answer...
                Autist skepthics are the hardest ones.
                OK. Let's become even more specific. The polaroid pictures were made NOT employing IR filters. Got it now?
                You try to sell some dust?

                We discuss video you suggested in post #267 as learning stuf.

                Video is showing picture and photo-camera too. Camera was not Polaroid for sure. Maybe it was not digital but it was not Polaroid. As Esteban cite in post #286 it was Canon. If you are amazing by Polaroid, what to say, ok, I am not.
                Global capital is ruining your life?
                You have right to self-defence!

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                • The golden AURA

                  Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                  I will be sure if after digging take photos. If aura persist 1 hour or more... maybe isn't aura. This I do with pistol. But the "phenomenon" can remain 1 minute after digging, no more, for small item. Don't know remanence for big item as treasure.


                  Hello Esteban,this is very interesting film about gold AURA. You already read the book,can you tell me how can i see the AURA in my buried gold medalion,how can i use my digital camera for this experience ? Its very interesting,i want to see if this is true...

                  Abrazos

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                  • AURA

                    Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                    Whether you wish to be pedantic or not, the bottom-line is simply that this so-called technique is absolutely useless for finding real treasure. The only treasure goes to the author of the book, who manages to sell copies to technically-challenged individuals such as yourself.

                    Let invite the AUTHOR of the book,he can find very easy one gold bar buried by Karl,THE CHALLENGE

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                    • Aura

                      Originally posted by Geo View Post
                      Hi Esteban.
                      I saw the remaining of the phenomenon for 5 minutes after the digging.

                      Regards


                      Hello Geo

                      Did you already make this experiment with digital camera,and you saw this AURA??? ,it realy exist around buried gold ???


                      Regards

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                        Originally posted by Esteban View Post
                        The "eye" "see" the "phenomenon"?

                        Hi Esteban

                        I have a look inside this device,but it was not aloud for me to take photos.
                        what i memorize,in the inner i saw only transistorized PCB´s, one toroid coil and maybe one pipe with infra red,or maybe some trimmer for adjustement,this you call THE EYE .
                        I will try to find the picture(drawn).

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                        • PD with EYE ???

                          Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                          Hi Esteban

                          I have a look inside this device,but it was not aloud for me to take photos.
                          what i memorize,in the inner i saw only transistorized PCB´s, one toroid coil and maybe one pipe with infra red,or maybe some trimmer for adjustement,this you call THE EYE .
                          I will try to find the picture(drawn).

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                          • Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                            Hello Geo

                            Did you already make this experiment with digital camera,and you saw this AURA??? ,it realy exist around buried gold ???


                            Regards
                            Hi Morgan.
                            No, i did not experiment with IR camera. Before long time i bough a filter but i never took my camera with me when i was going for T.Hunting. I saw the remaining of the phenomenon when after a digging i found a copper box and the LRL indicated signal for about 5 minutes yet.

                            Regards
                            Geo

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                            • Originally posted by Geo View Post
                              Hi Morgan.
                              No, i did not experiment with IR camera. Before long time i bough a filter but i never took my camera with me when i was going for T.Hunting. I saw the remaining of the phenomenon when after a digging i found a copper box and the LRL indicated signal for about 5 minutes yet.

                              Regards
                              5 minutes because is a box, but a silver buckle remain 1 minute or less.

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                              • Originally posted by Morgan View Post
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                                Hi Morgan,
                                Your "unknown pcb circuit" is probably the beeper circuit, i suppose there is a 555 IC on it, right?

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