A patent to detect substances by infrared like Esteban used.

[Geo]

Never say "never"...

[Geo]

I had a conversation with someone inside, that person told me the lack of concern, with the devices, directional. And only worrying about Porta Giratoria detectors

What is this???

[Douglass]

What is this???

Bank door detector

[Geo]

Yes.... the money are much more..

[humhum]

Never say "never"...

Yes , You is right Dear Friend .

[gaucho1961]

Good night my friends!
Yes, Alonso still has a percentage in the sales of the long distance detectors manufactured by Mineoro. He had some disagreements with one of the sons of Dam?sio who took over Mineoro, and ended up not coming here at the factory in Garopaba anymore, failing to do the upgrades and repairs on the detectors, and who does this service is the son of Dam?sio's second wife, only the repairs he does, the updates are not done on the detectors for two or three years. Mineoro is also closing the factory here in the city of Taquara, where Dam?sio is a natural and where Mineoro's factory started. Even the two-box detectors and the Dch-85 were made in Taquara city, and the manufacture of these detectors will also be stopped, they will no longer produce, what we still have is a small stock of ready detectors.
I say this because I spent the afternoon with whoever made these detectors, he is my friend, and he has worked at Mineoro for over 35 years.
Mineoro in Taquara is 50 km from my house, and I talked a lot with my friends there today.
A pity because the Mineoro complex in the city of Taquara has tools and machinery to make all these detectors that have become classics in this factory, coil winding machines, iron sheet bending machines, woodworking machines, in short, everything will be practically discarded and thrown in some container as scrap ...
Today I saw many detectors that customers left many years ago for repair and never came back for, and are there, one on top of the others thrown in a room.
I was very sad to see all that.
Mineoro was part of my life, since I was a teenager I had detectors of them, it was with Mineoro detectors that I started to do my treasure hunts, and with them I found many things of farmers and Jesuits throughout all states of Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and Argentina.
It was with my findings that I did with Mineoro's detectors, when I started over 45 years ago, that I became known to Garrett, Whites and other factories, so I can't speak ill because with these detectors I built my name and acquired respect in this area of treasure hunts.
The detectors are ugly, unfinished, grotesque, but they work perfectly, I have nothing to complain about, I don't prioritize finishing or beauty, but results, and that's what I had with them.
Today I see a company that has fallen, by Dam?sio's own children, who out of greed did not know how to manage and follow up, nor value the name of the company that old Dam?sio both preserved and maintained.
I met Dam?sio when he was still working in the city of Taquara, I was 14 years old, and that was when I acquired my first Mineoro detector, and he was my friend until his death. Bad or not, think what you want, I have nothing to complain about, a year after buying my first two boxes, I found with him my first Jesuit treasure, it was a 692B two boxes. Sorry for my outburst, but I'm really sad about the news I received today, just as I was sad about the news from the Whites Electronic factory in Oregon, I met great people inside and who are my dear friends today.

[gaucho1961]

Another thing,

Long-distance detectors can give signals on heavily oxidized iron. Depending on the alloy of iron, this chemical change that iron receives over the years buried and covered by particles of ores, it has also modified its conductivity, rising and leaving the negative scale of ferrous metals and occupying the scale for non-ferrous metals.

This can be clearly seen in ID numbered detectors, where a very oxidized and buried iron for many years shows an identification of a non-ferrous metal. I myself found iron very rusty with the FG-80 and FG-90, they were rusty from rust, and I dug 60 inches deep with a JeoHunter that told me it was non-ferrous metal, and it was a tractor piece very old and rusty.

These days a friend marked a target with an AG-90 that I made, and he used a Vanquish 340 and the ID was the same as 18K gold, and it was a very oxidized piece of iron 15 inches deep.

So it is more than proven that directionals can detect some very oxidized iron alloys, since they have been buried for many years.

[pablo72]

Another thing,

Long-distance detectors can give signals on heavily oxidized iron. Depending on the alloy of iron, this chemical change that iron receives over the years buried and covered by particles of ores, it has also modified its conductivity, rising and leaving the negative scale of ferrous metals and occupying the scale for non-ferrous metals.

This can be clearly seen in ID numbered detectors, where a very oxidized and buried iron for many years shows an identification of a non-ferrous metal. I myself found iron very rusty with the FG-80 and FG-90, they were rusty from rust, and I dug 60 inches deep with a JeoHunter that told me it was non-ferrous metal, and it was a tractor piece very old and rusty.

These days a friend marked a target with an AG-90 that I made, and he used a Vanquish 340 and the ID was the same as 18K gold, and it was a very oxidized piece of iron 15 inches deep.

So it is more than proven that directionals can detect some very oxidized iron alloys, since they have been buried for many years.

you confused conductivity of coroded metal or iron with intensity of dielectric field. you wrong.

[gaucho1961]

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[gaucho1961]

you confused conductivity of coroded metal or iron with intensity of dielectric field. you wrong.

That was the term I found to try to be understandable in my idea that I agree with Geo, that almost all LRLs detect steel or some rusty iron alloys, in fact, I gave some examples that occurred to me and some friends in practice, but you and everyone know what i mean. I think that dielectric field would not be what I am referring to, I believe that you are in another way than I tried to explain.

[Geo]

It is very sad what i read about Mineoro....
Damasio was an inventor like Alonso, but his son it is a simple businessman, he never had a "hot" relation with Mineoro's LRL .

[humhum]

It is very sad what i read about Mineoro....
Damasio was an inventor like Alonso, but his son it is a simple businessman, he never had a "hot" relation with Mineoro's LRL .

Yes Geo , very sad about Mineoro .,

About find of oxidized iron , Esteban say that need to use any filter for not find ,
also I think that PD, if is with IR Transmitter light ( Mineoro model FG80-FG90)
so it can find any Oxidation , but without IR Tx Led maybe not Find .

I'm not sure, it just might be so .

Does old original PD of Alonso (without use any IR Tx or Rx system ) find any iron ?

[Douglass]

Yes Geo , very sad about Mineoro .,

About find of oxidized iron , Esteban say that need to use any filter for not find ,
also I think that PD, if is with IR Transmitter light ( Mineoro model FG80-FG90)
so it can find any Oxidation , but without IR Tx Led maybe not Find .

I'm not sure, it just might be so .

Does old original PD of Alonso (without use any IR Tx or Rx system ) find any iron ?

LRL that does not eliminate iron is not LRL but a long-range MD

[kostas87]

LRL that does not eliminate iron is not LRL but a long-range MD

I agree with that.
something is happening and it needs some direction in fine metal tuning, to detect precious metals remotely. the signal transmission is separated and isolated into noble metals and ferrous metals. the signal absorption must be in separation to detect only noble metals in order to have a signal in noble metals .. you will not need a large detection range .. maybe 2-6 meters with very clear signals is a very good result .

[Geo]

I don't agree....
Every signal is detectable and we can't discriminate it at least with the cheap equipment we have