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  • #46
    Originally posted by WM6 View Post
    Hi Geo, there is no problem to find water in nature. I can easily find it without any dowsing rod only by some knowledge of geology, surface markers and logical conclusion. But only in nature, not in controlled test condition (where dowser cannot be supported by geological information and surface markers of underground water).

    Most proved dowser years ago claim the same as you, but read this:


    Hi WM6.
    I will try to read your so big thread tommorrow. I need much time to read it (my bad english).
    Geo

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    • #47
      Originally posted by J_Player View Post
      Hi Geo,
      When you say the objects that you found with the dowsing method, was with mono visible method, this is not a method I have heard of before.

      Does this method mean that only the person holding the dowsing rod can see where the object is located when it is found?

      Best wishes,
      J_P

      Hi J_P
      Hahaha... no "mono visible" method.
      I tried to tell the opposite of the "double-blind" test.
      I suppose that the term was bad

      Regards
      Geo

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Geo View Post
        Hi Qiaozhi.
        Again the same!!! Some times you answer as than you don't want to understand what i say!!!.
        Why to play with double or triple or.... -blind test!!!!. The things are very simple. I have a success degree of 40%...70% (i am not so good) and it is Ok for me. Some times i dig without results and some times with good results. Ask Morgan to tell you how i located the gold mental with his Lrod!!!.
        Now about double- blind test.... i saw my "teacher" to do it with copper coins and he had 100% success. But really this don't mean anything

        Regards
        Well ... if you think it's working for you, then use it.
        Maybe you don't have an inquisitive mind.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Geo
          Hi J_P
          Hahaha... no "mono visible" method.
          I tried to tell the opposite of the "double-blind" test.
          I suppose that the term was bad

          Regards
          Hi Geo,

          I received an email from the Mr. Stick company.
          They say they are working on a prototype for a new "Mark-2" model that they will be selling for the same unbelievable low price of $99.99 US.
          They say the Mr. Stick is not dowsing, because it uses physics principles to work.
          And it is also guaranteed to work every time at least as good as Mineoro, Rangertell, and Omnitron in a real double blind test, or money refunded.

          I look at the photo they sent me and I can see this is real physics, because sample chamber is using the same gold like for the target, and must be resonance of the signal line.

          Best wishes,
          J_P
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          • #50
            Originally posted by J_Player View Post
            Hi Geo,

            I received an email from the Mr. Stick company.
            They say they are working on a prototype for a new "Mark-2" model that they will be selling for the same unbelievable low price of $99.99 US.
            They say the Mr. Stick is not dowsing, because it uses physics principles to work.
            And it is also guaranteed to work every time at least as good as Mineoro, Rangertell, and Omnitron in a real double blind test, or money refunded.

            I look at the photo they sent me and I can see this is real physics, because sample chamber is using the same gold like for the target, and must be resonance of the signal line.

            Best wishes,
            J_P
            Cool! Looks like your basic paint roller with a piece of egg carton rubber-banded to it.

            Yes... real physics and Earth Science involved here... certainly no dowsing.

            I hope the Mr. Stick Company has it Patented because if not, Dell will be copying it and trying to sell it for $695.00 (plus shipping).

            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Theseus
              Cool! Looks like your basic paint roller with a piece of egg carton rubber-banded to it.

              Yes... real physics and Earth Science involved here... certainly no dowsing.

              I hope the Mr. Stick Company has it Patented because if not, Dell will be copying it and trying to sell it for $695.00 (plus shipping).
              I don't think they can patent it on account of some painting tool manufacturer probably owns the patents. But I think there may be trade secrets involved here.
              They hinted about implanting a power load of the most stable isotope of dihydrogen monoxide they could find in the hole at the tip of the locator.
              It's a wonder they can keep the price so low while including all this earth science physics and the only double blind test guarantee in the LRL industry.

              Best wishes,
              J_P

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                Well ... if you think it's working for you, then use it.
                Maybe you don't have an inquisitive mind.
                Haha. You never tried the dowsing method and say me for "inquisitive mind"
                OK, i will tell to all you!!!!
                You seem that you don't know anything for dowsing!!!!
                You say so simple.... make a double-blind test. And what with this????
                Test at who material???? From what material will be the box where must be inside the hidden object??? How many times?????
                Look, every dowser is good at one kind, for example water or caves or copper or gold or....... , but not at all together.
                My "teacher" is specialist at small copper and silver coins, he has located them from distance 1 and 2 Km far!!!!!.
                Also i knew a very old man (he don't live now) that had a very good abillity to detect only gold (and he was very rich). Another known man is very good at water but very bad at everything else.
                So, if you will tell to my "teacher" to make a double-blind test at a golden coin he will not hany any success and you will say that Dowsing don't work.
                If i understood well at the text that WM6 posted here, there are some occasions where the dowsers had very good results.

                Regards
                Geo

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  Hi Geo,

                  I received an email from the Mr. Stick company.
                  They say they are working on a prototype for a new "Mark-2" model that they will be selling for the same unbelievable low price of $99.99 US.
                  They say the Mr. Stick is not dowsing, because it uses physics principles to work.
                  And it is also guaranteed to work every time at least as good as Mineoro, Rangertell, and Omnitron in a real double blind test, or money refunded.

                  I look at the photo they sent me and I can see this is real physics, because sample chamber is using the same gold like for the target, and must be resonance of the signal line.

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P

                  Hi J_P.
                  Special detector

                  Regards
                  Geo

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Geo View Post

                    My "teacher" is specialist at small copper and silver coins, he has located them from distance 1 and 2 Km far!!!!!.


                    Regards
                    Dear Geo, I am not dowsing teacher nor specialist, but can detect small silver coin at distance of 100 or 200 and even more kilometers in case that I hide it by myself.

                    Why you dont take your teacher with on mountain huntig, so you solve all detecting problems?
                    Global capital is ruining your life?
                    You have right to self-defence!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by J_Player View Post


                      I look at the photo they sent me and I can see this is real physics, because sample chamber is using the same gold like for the target, and must be resonance of the signal line.

                      Best wishes,
                      J_P
                      Hi J_P what of science is here implemented, backward Gauss or forward Gauss?

                      Does you thinking about implementation of dextrorotatory and levorotatory testicular dissociation constant too?
                      Global capital is ruining your life?
                      You have right to self-defence!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Geo View Post
                        Haha. You never tried the dowsing method and say me for "inquisitive mind"
                        OK, i will tell to all you!!!!
                        You seem that you don't know anything for dowsing!!!!
                        You say so simple.... make a double-blind test. And what with this????
                        Test at who material???? From what material will be the box where must be inside the hidden object??? How many times?????
                        Look, every dowser is good at one kind, for example water or caves or copper or gold or....... , but not at all together.
                        My "teacher" is specialist at small copper and silver coins, he has located them from distance 1 and 2 Km far!!!!!.
                        Also i knew a very old man (he don't live now) that had a very good abillity to detect only gold (and he was very rich). Another known man is very good at water but very bad at everything else.
                        So, if you will tell to my "teacher" to make a double-blind test at a golden coin he will not hany any success and you will say that Dowsing don't work.
                        If i understood well at the text that WM6 posted here, there are some occasions where the dowsers had very good results.

                        Regards
                        Hi Geo,

                        I am trying to keep this as a rational discussion, but you saying, "Haha. You never tried the dowsing method ...", etc., etc., does not help.

                        If you (for example) think you are only capable of detecting silver coins by dowsing, then perform the test using silver coins. The test doesn't even have to be very rigorous. Simply get a friend to hide a silver coin under 1 of 10 plastic cups and then get him/her to leave the area while you perform the dowsing test. Since the test is only intended for you to confirm or deny to yourself that dowsing is real, it is not necessary to have multiple observers, or to keep the hidden location written down in a sealed envelope. It is not a criticism of anyone if they believe that dowsing works in the field, as the ideomotor effect is very compelling, and the double-blind test helps to remove any unconscious bias by the tester.

                        If the testing shows that detection of the coin is no more accurate than guessing, then what does that tell you? Perhaps you might conclude that the dowsing effect is somehow compromised by the test procedure, thus causing it to fail. Or you might conclude that dowsing doesn't actually work and is just a trick of the mind.

                        I know which is the correct answer. Do you?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by WM6
                          Hi J_P what of science is here implemented, backward Gauss or forward Gauss?

                          Does you thinking about implementation of dextrorotatory and levorotatory testicular dissociation constant too?
                          Hi WM6,
                          I don't think that LRL uses gauss, because I don't see any coils or circuits in the photo. I only see gold, painting equipment and an egg container. The only explanation for this kind of detection I ever read in the Geotech forum is "earth sciences" and "physics principles". But maybe it has something to do with the substance produced by gold DNA as explained by Dr. hung. I can't think of any other way.


                          Best wishes,
                          J_P

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                          • #58
                            Geo the dowser

                            Originally posted by Geo View Post
                            Haha. You never tried the dowsing method and say me for "inquisitive mind"
                            OK, i will tell to all you!!!!
                            You seem that you don't know anything for dowsing!!!!
                            You say so simple.... make a double-blind test. And what with this????
                            Test at who material???? From what material will be the box where must be inside the hidden object??? How many times?????
                            Look, every dowser is good at one kind, for example water or caves or copper or gold or....... , but not at all together.
                            My "teacher" is specialist at small copper and silver coins, he has located them from distance 1 and 2 Km far!!!!!.
                            Also i knew a very old man (he don't live now) that had a very good abillity to detect only gold (and he was very rich). Another known man is very good at water but very bad at everything else.
                            So, if you will tell to my "teacher" to make a double-blind test at a golden coin he will not hany any success and you will say that Dowsing don't work.
                            If i understood well at the text that WM6 posted here, there are some occasions where the dowsers had very good results.

                            Regards

                            I saw in Portugal your hability when you found the gold medalion in the field test,i can say you are lucky with L rods,but remember this Rods can work fine just when big practice and concentration and most are becouse of good intuition produce good results,but it fails when ideomotor works in wrong direction...
                            Actualy the best L rod is electronic, the Ram-KA,sorry i forget to show to you in your holydays...

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                            • #59
                              Ram-KA

                              Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                              I saw in Portugal your hability when you found the gold medalion in the field test,i can say you are lucky with L rods,but remember this Rods can work fine just when big practice and concentration and most are becouse of good intuition produce good results,but it fails when ideomotor works in wrong direction...
                              Actualy the best L rod is electronic, the Ram-KA,sorry i forget to show to you in your holydays...

                              Anyway this LRL device is not 100% accurate,but the low price is reasonable for this hand made L rod,nothing compare with L rod scam in the market.
                              This is Rod for test,only for people who believe in this dowsing activities .

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                                Anyway this LRL device is not 100% accurate,but the low price is reasonable for this hand made L rod,nothing compare with L rod scam in the market.
                                This is Rod for test,only for people who believe in this dowsing activities .

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                                Hi Morgan

                                Congratulation for design, better than Pinninfarina. Are there secret inside or you can post some schematic?
                                Global capital is ruining your life?
                                You have right to self-defence!

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