Mineoro FG90 in action

[simonbaker]

I don't want to be mean. I respect anyone doing honest experiments/research with any technology or theories. They know who they are.

-SB

[Fred]

No, it's not needed.
But I'm absolutely sure my dog is much more useful than the crap ordinary MD you might use.
Maybe you can teach yours to skyjump as I did with mine a long time ago.

Hope you will keep at least one crap MD, as they seem to be needed to "pinpoint"

[J_Player]

Hope you will keep at least one crap MD, as they seem to be needed to "pinpoint"

A good MD would be helpful too.
Have you ever tried the new White's Spectra V3i or DFX 300? These are awesome for finding the goods.
If you want deeper range to find an iron box full of coins, how about the White’s TM 808, or Lorenz Deepmax X3, or the Pulse Star II Pro with a 1 meter coil?
Sure, they can't find a coin from a mile away, but they are successful at locating a buried iron box without making random beeps.

Best wishes,
J_P

[gaucho1961]

TODAY WAS NOT ...

Hello friends of the forum,
I thank you the opportunity to speak.
Has not happened today.
I could not dig and finish it.
As you know, I live in southern Brazil, and we're going through a bitter winter, with lots of rain and intense cold.
As it was combined with my friend, I was traveling this morning to the research site, but the rain was relentless all day and tomorrow will be the same. It rains a lot out there right now.
I stayed inside his house all day and night now returned to my house, the good thing is that is 70 km away from where I live.
Saturday the forecast is better for my state and will stay sunny all next week.
There is some information that I'm leaving out because I want to finish this search for later release, but it is not the function of the detector, can rest easy. It's about strange facts that occur in the region where I'm digging. But that's for later, and I'd rather reserve for later.
I am anxious to resolve this quickly, because there are other points to look at the same farm my friend at the same time want to share this special issue with you all.
To illustrate my statements regarding this research, I copied some pictures from Google Earth and edited on Photoshop, which shows where everything is happening, for them to enjoy and give your opinions about it. Open the photo and increase the zoom.
Look at sites that are marked.


For J_PLAYER:

I had a DeepMax, analog model, but I sold in 2008, really reliable and accurate, but my financial situation at that time did not allow me to stay with him until today I regret having to let go of him. But thanks for the advice anyway.

Again, excuse my English.
Thanks, and I ask you to understand the situation, whether it is sad for all of you, for me is even sadder.
Big hug for everyone!

[Funfinder]

This video is a step into the right direction - but we need alot more of these.

Is this a metal plate directly under the handle for shielding?

Is there a knob for adjusting the beeping volume?

btw. this random beeping really is irritating.
A raise in the tone-frequency would be better or a visual instrument like a VU-Meter.

What means this "walk from north to south"?

That the magnetic particles "flying" from south to north and get weakened or distracted by the long time ago buried object, creating some wind-shadow similar effect that you can detect? In other words some kind of "hole or distortion in the magnetic field"?

Perhaps this also distorts the electrostatic field, but I doubt that there are flying any ions through the air.

by the way there exists some (new?) Mineoro demonstration video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMsEVkXxQy4

and this "deep & center" or whats the exact name thing is really interresting.


Anyway:
More videos please, not only from treasure places, but also from authentic test sessions.

[putrechigi]

hi gaucho1961 everybody know tha i belive ion lrl and i like you answer at my question too please.is possible in north emisphere mineoro has the problem in reception?

For gibon hi my friend i try tree time with bionic and with gold ring we find him 20 cm deep at 50 meters of distans everytime , but about real condition in 5 time we start to escavation for 1.5 meters and in two time we find a gold (1coin and 1ring) i was very happy but after we woek alotoff for nothing, i think the wether condition umiditi,sun,mineralization and other change the power of all lrl and is very very dificult balance they everytime.with fg|80 we try one week and we can't find the gold plate too text that you find in the box with the lrl.
in this video you can see the fg/80 that we test in the huose he work afther two huors to try in the cuontry it was'nt possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbTxwNbIcNM

best reguards manolo

[WM6]

in this video you can see the fg/80 that we test in the huose he work afther two huors to try in the cuontry it was'nt possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbTxwNbIcNM

best reguards manolo

Hi manolo,

it evidently not work at gold plate vicinity inside house.

Why you dont move gold plate in front instead of tweezers?

It work only on movement, not at gold plate, work as some sort of gradiometer, because of ferrite antenna solution inside.

Gold plate can also work as RF reflector. To check if this happen, you need to fix FG80 and move and rotate gold plate (or other metal plate) in front.

[hung]

Storm coming

One of my fortes is meteorology and after hearing yesterday morning on TV about an upcoming severe cold front for the southern region in Brazil, I entered the weather satelite site and could confirm this information through the synoptical charts checking the isobars.
I just hoped there was enough time for gaucho to work that site before the rain, but indeed there was not.

It seems that it will only get better after monday. Yes, it's a drag but I have run into this problem a lot too and I perfectly know that feels.

[hung]

A good MD would be helpful too.
Have you ever tried the new White's Spectra V3i or DFX 300? These are awesome for finding the goods.
If you want deeper range to find an iron box full of coins, how about the White’s TM 808, or Lorenz Deepmax X3, or the Pulse Star II Pro with a 1 meter coil?
Sure, they can't find a coin from a mile away, but they are successful at locating a buried iron box without making random beeps.

Best wishes,
J_P

How many beeps do you think it's required to find a spot... when you are already in the spot and only needs the location? One million?

With all that 'inconsistent' beepings as you say gaucho perfectly reached the site and even dug the hole...
I already explained the beeping case and what's going on. There is no inconsistency at all, so I will not waste my time going into this explanation again.

I would like however to place some coments about your words concerning the ordinary metal detectors you named.

First point they are obsolete technology.

Metal detector technology as it is today, that is, speaking of ordinary ones, is more than 100 years old now. And today they offer the same kind of concept, independent of being BF0, VLF, PI, etc. looking for changes in magnetic field and conducting metals after a first magnetic field is applied.

I can build a box out of paper. Then I move to wood, then to plastic and as years go by, with new discoveries in leagues, resins and materials, it can be made of plastic, fiberglass, aluminum, etc. No matter how sofisticated that is, it's still a.... BOX.
So, in sum... No matter how these MDs are offered today in terms of fancy looking and parlor shop effects, they still employ over a century year old concept by the manufacturers.
I won't go here in deeper coments on how I think they fool people into thinking they are getting the latest technologies, when the real technologies are being exclusively used by the military or independent researcherers, and making these consumers think they are getting one hell of a deal using those fancy craps for coin hunt at the beach when the toys reach the 'unbelievable' depth of 10 inches for instance. But this is my personal opinion, no discussion about it.
OK, I might be exagerating as there's some inovation goin on despite of being the same old, old concept.
Devices such a s Jeohunter and Golden King, also offer algorithms and DSP which allow to determine target types, depth and 3d images with accuracy. That's good and fair enough. I respect them and it amazes me that it required the Turkish to show the American manufacturers how to do it.
Their imaging employing VLF concepts is interesting, relatively cheap and offer a much better choice than the galactical prices of OKM for instance and that of fancy GPRs. Actually the GPRs being sold for consumers today are piece of crap. The REAL GPRs are being used by NASA, and those are the real deal. As always, the military and government have the priviledge...or waddayathink? But this is another story.

You mentioned white's TM808, The mineoro 08MI beats it hands down, even still using electronics of the 60's but the concept is highly ingenious, allowing caption of target field emanation from dozens of feet away. Just ask gaucho how many feet away he detected and dug a 15 feet long and thick gold chain.
Then the lorenz deepmax x3.
X6 is better with imaging algorithms, yet an expensive toy for detection only if you are over a target.
In these terms, JEOHUNTER is a much, much, better option.
Pulsestar II... good PI, but no imaging. And the other one you mentioned is just a fancy toy for beachcombers.

Again, this technology is obsolete. The military and independent parties are the ones who use the real deal.
LRLs do not require these at all. Maybe a JEOHUNTER just to check what they have detected. This provided the depth is at the reach of the coil.
LRLers usually employ MDs for pinpointing, actually when these craps do pinpoint, but in my opinion, this is just a psicological back up for those who do not know or feel like doing with the LRL itself.

Sorry, but these are my thoughts.

[hung]

Anyway:
More videos please, not only from treasure places, but also from authentic test sessions.

Alonso is shooting some videos with the Mineoros showing recoveries. These will include beach findings too and techniques he uses.

They will be released very soon.

[WM6]

LRLers usually employ MDs for pinpointing, actually when these craps do pinpoint, but in my opinion, this is just a psicological back up for those who do not know or feel like doing with the LRL itself.

Hi Hung, It seems that your isobars are at very high level.

[luciano furtado]

I am sending you a map in order to further facilitate the work out there
hehehe ...

[WM6]

Hi Luciano,

your map are false but here I give you an original:

[takhslambos]

mineoro

HI manolo i m from greece.i m thinking to buy a mineoro.what model of mineoro you used in italy?what model is the best for our cantrys?

[putrechigi]

hi

HI manolo i m from greece.i m thinking to buy a mineoro.what model of mineoro you used in italy?what model is the best for our cantrys?

i sand you one mp