Mineoro FG90 in action

[goldmaniac]

The soil is very fresh
both swings both disturbed magnetic fields and barrel beep

[Funfinder]

What we need is anticipation, optimistic realistic hope, joy and fun in finding real precious treasures that motivates us for hunting because we will became millioneers, getin' rich and have a real good life, holidays in Las Vegas, sex n drugs n rockn roll, freedom and doin only what we really like... - more treasure huntin'!

That's why we need reliable treasure maps, infos but also detectors that get the most out of the ground!


@ hung
Thank you very much for still posting here and defending the Mineoro devices and ignoring all those bad jokes and stupid stuff because you and some other really try to prove those devices are really working.

Thank you also for your true Jeonhunter statement!

Compared to alot other deep search P.I. stuff (for those you need 1m large coils if you want to find real deep stuff) it can find coins with the standard coil, has disc and also audio/visual cavity-mineral detection.


But what the most people here are critizin' is the unreliability of the Mineoro detectors in the north hemisphere and under certain weather conditions.

Your "damned" usual MDs can be switched on and 95 out of 100 times they do their job as they should - no matter what if it's day or night, sunny or rainy outside.

btw. the meteorology is a really complex topic.


In the german book "Magnetism" I read the following:

There is a second, weaker magnetic field created by the ionosphere and it's most powerful around the equator.

There are also ionic storms from the ionosphere (100-160km above the ground), sometimes created by energetic sunwinds. There also is the Van-Allen-Magnetosphere-Belt.

btw. magnetism is caused by the electrons spin, an electron is the smallest magnetic particle. And for shure this has something to do with LRL, electrostatic and metal detection, because usual MDs are using magnetical coils.


However - making it more interresting by "fun & action" again, hung please go to north america or europe and try out how good the Mineoro works there and upload nice videos from this. If Carl Moreland still offers his price for detection you could make good money if you are shure it would work in da States, too. But because of the different magnetic and electrostatic situation perhaps it really only works in southern america or south of the equator.



@ putrechigi
Thank you for your written test results. Make more if you can with different / not calibrated gold objects and hidden by other person.



@ all - important question:
Let's assume the Mineoro detects a long time ago golden coin of 1 inch / 2.5cm in 1.5 feet / 50cm depth from a distance!!

What usual detector with the best price-worthyness-relation (evtl. what special coil if needed) would be the best for pinpointing this coin, has a chance to find it?!

[J_Player]

How many beeps do you think it's required to find a spot... when you are already in the spot and only needs the location? One million?

With all that 'inconsistent' beepings as you say gaucho perfectly reached the site and even dug the hole...
I already explained the beeping case and what's going on. There is no inconsistency at all, so I will not waste my time going into this explanation again.

Hmmmm.... If you can't understand the meaning of random beeps, I guess you are wise not to try to explain the concept of inconsistency to others, as you say.

I would like however to place some coments about your words concerning the ordinary metal detectors you named.

First point they are obsolete technology.

Metal detector technology as it is today, that is, speaking of ordinary ones, is more than 100 years old now. And today they offer the same kind of concept, independent of being BF0, VLF, PI, etc. looking for changes in magnetic field and conducting metals after a first magnetic field is applied.

I can build a box out of paper. Then I move to wood, then to plastic and as years go by, with new discoveries in leagues, resins and materials, it can be made of plastic, fiberglass, aluminum, etc. No matter how sofisticated that is, it's still a.... BOX.
So, in sum... No matter how these MDs are offered today in terms of fancy looking and parlor shop effects, they still employ over a century year old concept by the manufacturers.
I won't go here in deeper coments on how I think they fool people into thinking they are getting the latest technologies, when the real technologies are being exclusively used by the military or independent researcherers, and making these consumers think they are getting one hell of a deal using those fancy craps for coin hunt at the beach when the toys reach the 'unbelievable' depth of 10 inches for instance. But this is my personal opinion, no discussion about it.
OK, I might be exagerating as there's some inovation goin on despite of being the same old, old concept.

Of course you are exagerating. In fact I am wondering if you are telling outright lies. If the conventional VLF and PI detectors are simply a "sophisticated box" and "fancy craps", then we can presume you would not recommend them, much less use them. However, you do use them. You are only saying these things to try to convince others they shouldn't use them. Suppose people found out you really do think they are useful, and use them yourself? Would they stop believing your stories? Already I have heard you tell stories that can't possibly be true in this forum, and now you are telling people conventional metal detectors are obsolete.

Who are they obsolete for? Certainly not you. You use one to find treasure when you want people to think your Mineoro machines found the treasure. Was WM6 right? Are there peple in Brazil trying to scam the rest of the world into believing their LRLs work?
Or did you throw out your conventional detectors years ago, seeing as how they are obsolete?

You mentioned white's TM808, The mineoro 08MI beats it hands down, even still using electronics of the 60's....

What?
Mineoro is also manufacturing "obsolete" conventional metal detectors?
So they are not obsolete for Mineoro or for you. You only want others to believe they are obsolete.

Now why would that be?
Could this be the next adventure into hung-science?
The only reason that comes to mind is the conventional metal detectors recover over 1000 times more treasure than LRLs have recovered, whether by accident or design. I can look at the published finds every week and there is no comparison. Gold, silver jewelry, caches, coins, relics... the treasure hunting forums are full of these finds from conventional detectors. I see hundreds of treasure finds every week, but only once in a very long while do we hear about a treasure found from someone using an LRL. And we also have a large majority of LRL purchaseres who complain they don't work.

I suppose there could be some logic to try to convince people the conventional detectors are obsolete in order to promote a concept they are sure doesn't work. But maybe it is hard for them to believe you when you secretly use these conventional metal detectors on hunts where you claim the LRLs located the treasure. Of course it is a free forum, so you are free to post about how metal detectors are obsolete, Just as others are free to believe you use obsolete metal detectors to find buried metal.

...Again, this technology is obsolete. The military and independent parties are the ones who use the real deal.
LRLs do not require these at all. Maybe a JEOHUNTER just to check what they have detected. This provided the depth is at the reach of the coil.
LRLers usually employ MDs for pinpointing, actually when these craps do pinpoint, but in my opinion, this is just a psicological back up for those who do not know or feel like doing with the LRL itself.

Sorry, but these are my thoughts.

You don't need to be sorry for your thoughts.
We know you are among those who need the psychological backup to take a VLF metal detector.
Do you suppose some people think it is the only detector that really finds treasure for you?

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Jplayer,

You seem to suffer from the same autism that blokes as SWR does when keeping insisting in wrong and obscure points even after the answer was provided.

At the time of the post in which that picture belongs, I had already comented on the reason I had the excalibut aboard. This minelab is an underwater machine.
My PDC could and cannot 'swim'. The FG either.

In clear words, as you seem to have some difficulty in interpreting things...
I could not and still cannot take Mineoro LRLs underwater as they are not waterproof.
Even for big targets, you still need an underwater detector to pinpoint as the gold might be hidden under layers of sand or sediments.
I already thought about using a special high pressure acrylic enclosure made to house digital cameras for underwater work, but I feel this will interfere in the detector's reliability.
I am thinking in a way to end this limitation tough.

Hope this is crystal clear now. Please, save this answer in your PC for future reference. Thanks.

[hung]

@ hung
Thank you very much for still posting here and defending the Mineoro devices and ignoring all those bad jokes and stupid stuff because you and some other really try to prove those devices are really working.

Thank you also for your true Jeonhunter statement!

Compared to alot other deep search P.I. stuff (for those you need 1m large coils if you want to find real deep stuff) it can find coins with the standard coil, has disc and also audio/visual cavity-mineral detection.


But what the most people here are critizin' is the unreliability of the Mineoro detectors in the north hemisphere and under certain weather conditions.

Your "damned" usual MDs can be switched on and 95 out of 100 times they do their job as they should - no matter what if it's day or night, sunny or rainy outside.

btw. the meteorology is a really complex topic.


In the german book "Magnetism" I read the following:

There is a second, weaker magnetic field created by the ionosphere and it's most powerful around the equator.

There are also ionic storms from the ionosphere (100-160km above the ground), sometimes created by energetic sunwinds. There also is the Van-Allen-Magnetosphere-Belt.

btw. magnetism is caused by the electrons spin, an electron is the smallest magnetic particle. And for shure this has something to do with LRL, electrostatic and metal detection, because usual MDs are using magnetical coils.

Funfinder,
I already stated it in the past, but will do it again.

I am not here defending specifically Mineoro.
I don't earn anything from Mineoro.
I am here standing for the truth and defending the truth to be known.
I have the same point regarding the Rangertell and OKM Bionic 01 for instance, as I know they work because I already have proof they work.

In Mineoro's LRLs specific case, I use them for a litlle more than 5 years now and I know they work, so does gaucho, Esteban, and many others I know but do not post in this forum.

I am aware that apparently some members in this forum own Mineoros also but have not had success with it.
But I am also aware that Mineoro's site features treasure hunters and reports by users outside S.America, from several parts of the world showing treasure found. I remember emailing some of them at the time prior to get my first Mineoro and receiving positive feedback and also the confirmation of the findings.
One member here, Michael, also emailed one of these people and also received positive feedback.

So don't fool yourself as I will not waste my precious time for a single moment debating here whether I think they work or not.
I KNOW they work. Period.

The reason on why the few people in this forum, still had no success with the devices is up to them investigating.
I don't know on what basis they go out for hunting, how they do it, where they are hunting, etc.. It's very hard for me to emit a diagnostic with so many variables missing.

I think it was Esteban who said that he never found anything with a standard metal detector.
I also know a guy who has never found anything either.
Does he go out much? No. Does he look in the right places? Don't know.
What I want to point here is that just because some folks in this forum posted no success yet, does not mean there are no others at this moment in some part of the world having success and who might also not feel like joining forums to tell about their endeavours.

This thread was started by me at gaucho's own request to show members his experience with the detector. gaucho an experienced treasure hunter who has found and recovered several targets in the past just wanted to share a video in which he is using a FG90.
From the images I saw, I can say say that the device located something, but as rain is an obstacle now, we will have to wait.

Funfinder, about your scientific topics above, I just would like to say that there are many current science paradigms that are WRONG.
There is no interest whatosoever, at least for now, for the Academia to apply revision to some standards, when and if they get to finally find it's wrong. A major revolution in history would occur, resulting in a huge mess, economically and also socially.
In your text above there are major mistakes. It's not your fault as you grew used to accept certain aspects as true. But they are not.
It's up to you to believe it or not. I don't care.

However - making it more interresting by "fun & action" again, hung please go to north america or europe and try out how good the Mineoro works there and upload nice videos from this. If Carl Moreland still offers his price for detection you could make good money if you are shure it would work in da States, too. But because of the different magnetic and electrostatic situation perhaps it really only works in southern america or south of the equator.

It's possible.
I started to get this suspicion when a Mineoro user I know started to report to me the unusual behavior his FG80 presented in the region he lives closer to the Equator, but still in Brazilian territory.

He has always reported that a high course in the pot was required to calibrate the detector. Usually it is around 170 to 250 but he was getting as high as 750 to 800.
Then he told that only at night he could detect gold targets making his machine work ok.
In my region for instance, I can not get good results at night.
Then one day he claimed that he was detecting IRON at amazing distances and even joked he would start a new business opening a junk parts shop. Mineoro was informed about it and he had Alonso talking to him on the phone. The device was sent back to factory and Alonso found a problem in the ionic chamber. It was not discriminating ferrous objects as it is supposed to. Machine returned to him and at the begining, he seemed to confirm it was working ok but with the usual 'high' numbers in calibration required. Then after a few days, he emailed me and said he was still getting iron objects also but at a lower rate.
The last thing I have heard is that Alonso is thinking about traveling to his place to check what is going on...
So this also could happen in Countries above the Equator? Yes.
What is going on? I don't know as I have never used a Mineoro outside Brazil. I have some theories but need to get more data for a final word.

Let's assume the Mineoro detects a long time ago golden coin of 1 inch / 2.5cm in 1.5 feet / 50cm depth from a distance!!

What usual detector with the best price-worthyness-relation (evtl. what special coil if needed) would be the best for pinpointing this coin, has a chance to find it?!

Mineoro features the center&deep accessory exactly for this.
I know many people don't use them either because they don't know ho to do it or they as just too lazy to do it.
Fact is that my now deceased friend Celi, did wonders with this tool.
Still in the PDC era he used the C&D to play a role that probably not even Damasio knew it could be done. Besides the regular role for depth determination, he used to have another person in front of him holding it pointing to the ground while Celi held the PDC back as he walked. He always could pinpoint real small objects with this technique.

[gibon]

Hmmmm.... If you can't understand the meaning of random beeps, I guess you are wise not to try to explain the concept of inconsistency to others, as you say.

Of course you are exagerating. In fact I am wondering if you are telling outright lies. If the conventional VLF and PI detectors are simply a "sophisticated box" and "fancy craps", then we can presume you would not recommend them, much less use them. However, you do use them. You are only saying these things to try to convince others they shouldn't use them. Suppose people found out you really do think they are useful, and use them yourself? Would they stop believing your stories? Already I have heard you tell stories that can't possibly be true in this forum, and now you are telling people conventional metal detectors are obsolete.

Who are they obsolete for? Certainly not you. You use one to find treasure when you want people to think your Mineoro machines found the treasure. Was WM6 right? Are there peple in Brazil trying to scam the rest of the world into believing their LRLs work?
Or did you throw out your conventional detectors years ago, seeing as how they are obsolete?


What?
Mineoro is also manufacturing "obsolete" conventional metal detectors?
So they are not obsolete for Mineoro or for you. You only want others to believe they are obsolete.

Now why would that be?
Could this be the next adventure into hung-science?
The only reason that comes to mind is the conventional metal detectors recover over 1000 times more treasure than LRLs have recovered, whether by accident or design. I can look at the published finds every week and there is no comparison. Gold, silver jewelry, caches, coins, relics... the treasure hunting forums are full of these finds from conventional detectors. I see hundreds of treasure finds every week, but only once in a very long while do we hear about a treasure found from someone using an LRL. And we also have a large majority of LRL purchaseres who complain they don't work.

I suppose there could be some logic to try to convince people the conventional detectors are obsolete in order to promote a concept they are sure doesn't work. But maybe it is hard for them to believe you when you secretly use these conventional metal detectors on hunts where you claim the LRLs located the treasure. Of course it is a free forum, so you are free to post about how metal detectors are obsolete, Just as others are free to believe you use obsolete metal detectors to find buried metal.




You don't need to be sorry for your thoughts.
We know you are among those who need the psychological backup to take a VLF metal detector.
Do you suppose some people think it is the only detector that really finds treasure for you?

Best wishes,
J_P

HELLO MR HUNG,

IS IT YOU ON THE PHOTO ?

YOU LOOKS YOUNG !!!

ALL THE BEST

GIBON

[J_Player]

Jplayer,

You seem to suffer from the same autism that blokes as SWR does when keeping insisting in wrong and obscure points even after the answer was provided.

At the time of the post in which that picture belongs, I had already comented on the reason I had the excalibut aboard. This minelab is an underwater machine.
My PDC could and cannot 'swim'. The FG either.

In clear words, as you seem to have some difficulty in interpreting things...
I could not and still cannot take Mineoro LRLs underwater as they are not waterproof.
Even for big targets, you still need an underwater detector to pinpoint as the gold might be hidden under layers of sand or sediments.
I already thought about using a special high pressure acrylic enclosure made to house digital cameras for underwater work, but I feel this will interfere in the detector's reliability.
I am thinking in a way to end this limitation tough.

Hope this is crystal clear now. Please, save this answer in your PC for future reference. Thanks.

It is becoming clearer. It appears you were not able to read my original post correctly. I never said anything about intermittant anything. What I said is these conventional metal detectors "are successful at locating a buried iron box without making random beeps". This is a fact. Apparently you confused this to mean I was saying LRLs work intermittently, or need to make more beeps than they do. If you re-read my post, that is not what I said.
But we can forget about your difficulty in understanding English, as it is not your native language.

Your real point was that you wanted to make comments to say the conventional metal detectors I mentioned are obsolete technology.
And you proceeded to illustrate this by depicting them as 100 year old technology with "fancy looking and parlor shop effects", "sophisticated box" and "fancy craps".
You also said LRLs do not require conventional metal detectors:

LRLs do not require these at all.
...this is just a psicological back up for those who do not know or feel like doing with the LRL itself.

The fact is conventional metal detectors are not obsolete.
Obsolete equipment is equipment that that is replaced by a newer methods that causes people to abandon the obsolete equipment. For example, horse-drawn carts became obsolete when automobiles and trucks began to replace them as a transportation vehicle of choice. Yet for metal detecting, we see there are more conventional detectors being used each year. Their usage is steadily growing!
How is this possible for obsolete equipment?
If they are obsolete, then why are LRL enthusiasts using them?
How is it these "obsolete detectors" are used by LRL users and other treasure hunters as well?

The fact is conventional metal detectors are successful at recovering more treasures than LRLs are successful at recovering. There is no comparison when looking at the difference in the recovery between the two methods.
At this time I offer a challenge to you or anyone else who believes their LRL can recover more treasures. I am prepared to hold a contest at the local Southern California beaches to see how any LRL compares to a conventional metal detector for finding metal items that are lost in the sand. The ratio of beach recoveries I have seen reported online makes me think a conventional metal detector can recover more than 5000 times as much valuable items from a beach as an LRL. But I am only guessing based on what I read.

Here is my challenge:
We go to any beach in Southern California and begin hunting for treasure.
The test will last exactly four hours, where the metal detector user and the LRL user hunt the beach for treasures that can range from coins to jewelry, or any other buried item.
At the end of four hours, the hunters return to the parking lot and show what they found.
Whoever finds the most items will be declared the winner of most items found in four hours.
Whoever finds items whose total value is the highest will be declared the winner of most valuable recoveries in four hours.

Of course, the details will be worked out so the contestants will be permitted to pick from several beaches to find one that is suitable to both contestants.

This is a contest style challenge that I really don't know how the outcome will be because I never tried it before. But I am guessing the "obsolete conventional metal detector" will outperform the LRL in most items found, and in most valuable recoveries every time.

I expect to hear a lot of arguments of how this is not a fair test for reasons A, B, C, D.... Z.
And I know it is not likely you will travel to California just to show that your Mineoro detector can find more treasure at a beach than "obsolete metal detectors".
But I don't care.
My only reason for offering this challenge is to prove to the whole world that conventional metal detectors are not obsolete as you say they are.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

I am here standing for the truth and defending the truth to be known.
I have the same point regarding the Rangertell and OKM Bionic 01 for instance, as I know they work because I already have proof they work.

When trying to defend the erratic behavior of the Mineoro LRLs, and their inability to detect anything except the buyer's wallet, you might have more credibility if you stopped insisting that the Rangertell dowsing contraption is a real working device.

[Morgan]

MINEORO

When trying to defend the erratic behavior of the Mineoro LRLs, and their inability to detect anything except the buyer's wallet, you might have more credibility if you stopped insisting that the Rangertell dowsing contraption is a real working device.

Hi

The MINEORO can work as LRL only for big amount of gold,for small objects detection is allways inconclusive,that´s my conclusion after search in many places with my DC 2008 and after eard many stories of people who use mineoro devices...
Anyway if one day i find some treasure with MINEORO teknology,i will tell here.

Regards

[Morgan]

MINEORO FACTORY

When trying to defend the erratic behavior of the Mineoro LRLs, and their inability to detect anything except the buyer's wallet, you might have more credibility if you stopped insisting that the Rangertell dowsing contraption is a real working device.

When i was in MINEORO factory and try LRL in DAMASIO´s field test,i get clear and matematic signals 3 m distance in the marks,and he told come from small gold object. OF COURSE NOT,this good and directional signals hapens when MINEORO is detecting electrical power lines or coils , its only for MARKETING and for impession of a possible client ...

[J_Player]

Well, I guess I proved it.
Not a single pm arrived from LRL enthusiasts who want to show their LRL finding more treasure than a conventional metal detector at the beach.
Conventional metal detectors are not obsolete. They are used by LRL enthusiasts and other treasure hunters in increasing numbers all over the world.
We have been listening to more hung-science drooling from the mouth.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Funfinder]

@ hung
Hi again and interresting answer.

You or we all should finally bring some light in the whole Mineoro and LRL confusion.

OK, it's very fair describing the special "iron effect" that treausure-hunter near the equator had and I did read about it already, too.

But we also have Morgan here which is a trustworthy person and if he tells us the Mineoro only finds large quantities of gold it points us again to the topic I already spoke about:

The Mineoro needs to be more reliable concerning "functioning as it should".

And thats why I can fully understand J_Player if he get's angry if there are statements like "usual MDs are obsolete".

Even if his contest at the beach is a purely waste of time and "negative-motivation" because the Mineoro for shure has not the "fine-resolution" in finding valuable stuff on a trash contaminated beach.

The Mineoro may be really effective in some woods or flat grassland where usually no metal is at all - if there is a distant large treasure "on its own" and the geophysicalical, thermal and meteorological conditions are ok for the Mineoro.

btw. my opinion:
If the "electro-physicalical" innerds of the Mineoro are scientifically well known (= electronical parts) I doubt there is any "big mystery phenomena" what causes to make that electronic react as it was defined before!


And if you have information in what other countries around the world you have got positive feedback that the Mineoro works please tell it so we may found the reason why it somewhere works and somewhere not.

I guess it also has alot to do with the altitude and the electrostatic field per meter conditions inclusive the strenght of the magnetic field of the earth-poles that can vary extremly.

Perhaps also the "detection circuit" is too simple. If it only recognises some threshold value it may not enough for worldwide conditons - especially if different events can trigger this level.



@ all

Even if the new center & deep location electronic will pinpoint that buried coin I talked about SOMEONE HERE PLEASE tell me neverthless what kind of USUAL MD will find a golden coin of 1 inch / 2.5cm in 1.5 feet / 50cm depth !!!

So far I did found the Blisstool LTC 48 from Bulgaria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_XodMLVpE

that costs only around 500 Euro (meanwhile they have the new LTC64 that is even better) - this MD will find a 18.5mm coin at one foot / 35cm for a very good price.

So If you are knowledged in MDs at least you should know what other MD will find the coin i mentioned above at 50cm! If not you here, who else???


And I'm shure someone needs an additional usual MD for the pinpointing work, and also Morgan told this. btw. not all Mineoro's or Bionic 01s have this center&deep.

Good luck and hopefully the rain will stop soon in brazil!

[J_Player]

You or we all should finally bring some light in the whole Mineoro and LRL confusion.

OK, it's very fair describing the special "iron effect" that treausure-hunter near the equator had and I did read about it already, too.

But we also have Morgan here which is a trustworthy person and if he tells us the Mineoro only finds large quantities of gold it points us again to the topic I already spoke about:

Sure Morgan tells the truth about the LRLs he tests. If you read above, you will find Morgan said he was shown a fake demonstration at the Mineoro factory. They showed him three mathematically clear signals at marks to 3 m distance. He was told the beeps came from a small gold object, when he knows the Mineoro LRLs only make these kind of detection sounds from detecting electrical power lines or coils. Morgan tells us this scam is only used for marketing purposes to impress a possible client.

OF COURSE NOT,this good and directional signals hapens when MINEORO is detecting electrical power lines or coils , its only for MARKETING and for impession of a possible client ...

And you think the reason Mineoro does not work as advertised when using it away from the factory is because they are only calibrated for factory conditions?
Sure they are calibrated for factory conditions... Factory conditions where a hidden coil or power line causes beeps!

[hung]

When i was in MINEORO factory and try LRL in DAMASIO´s field test,i get clear and matematic signals 3 m distance in the marks,and he told come from small gold object. OF COURSE NOT,this good and directional signals hapens when MINEORO is detecting electrical power lines or coils , its only for MARKETING and for impession of a possible client ...

It's trully amazing how human beings can become capable of fabricating the most allucinated stories just for the sake of backing up their own wildest purposes.
What is in the quote above is so absurd that does not deserve a single line of coment about it.

[hung]

@
]You or we all should finally bring some light in the whole Mineoro and LRL confusion.

There is no confusion.

The Mineoro needs to be more reliable concerning "functioning as it should".

It is reliable. Of course, the more the better. What is not realiable is the emanation behavior. Problem is that the layman always tends to compare the device's behavior with that of a metal detector.
The mineoros (FG80,90, etc) were built to detect long time buried gold emanations. They detect the presence and variations of this specific field emanation from extreme long distances, range depending if conditions of wheather and local variables are favourable.
I have target sites here in my area that depending on wheather, time of year and time of day, I can pick them from 1.5 miles to lower than half of that and even do not pick it at all with the standard calibration, requiring more gain in the knob. It all depends as I said, on the 'humour' of it and weather conditions.

Again, the phenomenon is the one who has variable behavior, not the detector. Users must know how they behave, the best time to go out and of course, provided there's gold where they search. One biggest mistake these peopel make is overcalibrating the device causing false beepings if they get silence after searching for some time and get no target. Knowing the best calibration in different situations is the key to make a fine work in the field.
Are they perfect devices? Of course not. There is no perfect device in the world.
Can they be enhanced? Sure. I already have told Alonso that I think they need a processor to manage operations inside. It would do wonders. But nevertheless, the device is fully operational in its present condition and perfectly takes you where the gold is located as gaucho1961's video perfectly shows.
I do have complaints about Mineoro prices, support, etc.. But one great thing about them is that Alonso and team are always lauching upgrades for the devices. They do not launch a model in the market as other manufacturers and only years later make the first upgrade. At Mineoro, FGs have already dozens of upgrades.
Gaucho's model for instance is an early revision, mine is later than his.

Bottom line is, there's a lot of Mineoro users here in Brazil in mining areas. I have already told in the past that I asked some of them to come to forums to discuss their experiences. Besides the fact of many lacking full understanding of english language, they simply don't feel like it as they are too busy in the field always. I understand that. People who are serious treasure hunters or miners, in general will not waste their time arguing in forums when they have work to do with their tools.
I am not a full time professional miner or thunther, but I tell you, after some documents and a list of several jesuit treasure locations Gaucho showed me yesterday, boy, it is tempting... Guess I will be busier than I have ever expected in the next years.

Good luck and hopefully the rain will stop soon in brazil!

Assure yourself it will. Next week is the one week.