Mineoro videos featuring Alonso!

[hung]

[quote=Morgan;116316]

Yes,its a LRL video...

Say hello to Paulinho and his humble family

Regards

You know, you can wonder now how many jewelry are lost at high depths in beaches and are missed by ALL conventional MDs...
Do you understand how serious this is?

[Morgan]

VIDEO

[quote=hung;116313]

No, it can't. Due to the size of coil and architecture of PD it's physically impossible.
Humidity was above 80%. I knew it because I could see the sky all cloudy, so no good for larger distances. Paulinho told me that the DC got it from 2 meters distance. Good and strong beeps. Of course, the deepest the target, the stronger the field.

Here's Alonso's newest pistol getting a gold necklace about the same depth. This is the second video.
As a sidenote, just check how powerful that prototype MD is. There's a moment that it rises well above ground and still gets the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCboUui1AY

They know the videos are not the ideal ones, as they had to edit them due to extreme long filming. In fact there were 3 recoveries. The first being a gold ring but the camera man did not arrive at the beach on time to film it.
They plan other videos but this time, no editing.
Have fun.

Yes,its a LRL video...

Say hello to Paulinho and his humble family

Regards

[hung]

[quote=Morgan;116311]

SORRY, THIS ANSWER WAS FOR HUNG

No, it can't. Due to the size of coil and architecture of PD it's physically impossible.
Humidity was above 80%. I knew it because I could see the sky all cloudy, so no good for larger distances. Paulinho told me that the DC got it from 2 meters distance. Good and strong beeps. Of course, the deepest the target, the stronger the field.

Here's Alonso's newest pistol getting a gold necklace about the same depth. This is the second video.
As a sidenote, just check how powerful that prototype MD is. There's a moment that it rises well above ground and still gets the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCboUui1AY

They know the videos are not the ideal ones, as they had to edit them due to extreme long filming. In fact there were 3 recoveries. The first being a gold ring but the camera man did not arrive at the beach on time to film it.
They plan other videos but this time, no editing.
Have fun.

[Morgan]

Mineoro

[quote=Morgan;116310]

What a short distance Paulinho Torquato detects this target,half meter above the ground ?...Even PD can do better

SORRY, THIS ANSWER WAS FOR HUNG

[Morgan]

MINEORO

[quote=hung;116260]

How pathetic...
You can be deslusional as you want, but watch out, your next self deception is about to happen soon at the dowsing demonstration when one more of your 'beliefs' will implode as a 'castle of cards'.
Better take your Prozac with you.

What a short distance Paulinho Torquato detects this target,half meter above the ground ?...Even PD can do better

[J_Player]

OK - where should we start?

It is easy to dismiss the video as a fake, but this is difficult to prove one way or the other. Of course, any amateur magician could pull off the same stunt without any problem, and you wouldn't even need to be a good magician. Note how the spade-full of sand was conveniently turned upside down as it was removed from the hole. The gold target could very easily have been dropped into the bottom of the hole as this was removed.

On the other hand, if we take the video at face value, then there is the question of how the Mineoro device could detect such a tiny target when it is known that:

1. It supposedly uses "ionic fields" to detect longtime buried gold, and that these fields are severely depressed in damp conditions. Here we see in the video that the treasure is buried below the water line.
2. It has been repeatedly claimed that the Mineoro devices can only detect large targets, but here (if the video is to be believed) we see a very small target recovered from a great depth.

After watching the video a few times I have to say that it's not very convincing. There also appears to be far too much excitement amongst the participants, as if this whole thing is staged. Why would everyone be so amazed to find the gold pendant if this is such a common everyday occurrence? Perhaps it's just the sea air, of Brazilians are naturally excitable people?

Whatever ... it was quite entertaining.

I liked watching the video too. If the video is taken at face value, I agree with Qiaozhi. This is a video made and published by a manufacturer who sells the detector that they are demonstrating. This video is suspect for that reason alone, like any other manufacturer's videos. Most manufacturer's videos are exagerated. Look at car commercials that show one model car leaving others behind their dust on the road. Do you really think manufacturers promotional videos are always factual?

Qiaozhi listed two reasons why this video is showing us evidence that the DC2008 is not performing according to the information posted and advertised by Mineoro enthusiasts in the forum:

1. It supposedly uses "ionic fields" to detect longtime buried gold, and that these fields are severely depressed in damp conditions. Here we see in the video that the treasure is buried below the water line.
2. It has been repeatedly claimed that the Mineoro devices can only detect large targets, but here (if the video is to be believed) we see a very small target recovered from a great depth.

But there is a third reason that makes this video even more suspect. I can quote a number of people who claim the people at the factory make fake demonstrations. There are people who actually visited the Mineoro factory for a demonstration, then they were fooled by a demonstration that looked real, and bought a Mineoro locator. Then when they went home, the Mineoro locator could not find any treasure as they saw during the demonstration given at the factory. It made random beeps, and did not beep at known gold items that were ultimately recovered by other methods.
Many Mineoro customers are not happy. Some say Mineoro is a cheat, or they make fake demonstrations only to impress customers.

When i was in MINEORO factory and try LRL in DAMASIO´s field test,i get clear and matematic signals 3 m distance in the marks,and he told come from small gold object. OF COURSE NOT,this good and directional signals hapens when MINEORO is detecting electrical power lines or coils , its only for MARKETING and for impession of a possible client ...

... this is only what i think and what i saw there,and each time i make friction with my hand on the plastic mark over the target,the mineoro detect more distance,and my friend Mr. Damasio not like my atitude ,of course,and i stop.

...the reason why I'm so interrested to see them is because I bought a DC2008 from mineoro. ( I really had a brain wash from Brazil )...

So what are these Mineoro factory videos?
Are they slight exagerations?
Are they totally fakes with hidden oscillators to cause beeping and freshly planted gold targets?
Are they real?

Who knows?
The only way to know for sure you have a good demonstration is to make your own video where you know how the video is made, and you know there are no tricks used.
The second best is to listen to reports from people who you know will not make false tests to impress potential customers.
I think we have some forum members who we can trust to make fair tests with no tricks to impress potential customers.

I see many forum posts by Morgan where he always reports exactly what he sees in his tests, and has never made tricks to impress people. We can also read reports from forum members in Greece, the Middle East, Western Europe, USA, Central America and South America who are not associated with any LRL factory have made posts that are easy to believe. These forum members have no motive to give false reports.

A survey has begun where people who watch actual Mineoro locators in the field can report what they see. We can read what other people report for the Mineoro performance here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16967

Unless someone posts before him, Andreas will be the first to post his observations of the performance of a Mineoro locator in Greece. We will see if he found the same performance as the Mineoro factory video for locating small jewelry items. He can tell us if he heard beeping near treasures. We will find out what distance detection he observed for the Mineoro DC2008.

These are real field reports... not a factory published video.
If you used a Mineoro locator, or watched a Mineoro locator work, you can make your post to tell what you saw too.
Post here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16967

Best wishes,
J_P

[detectoman]

btw, true or lie, these is an good take video, is my people of brasil, seems mineoro promotion
hung what whit your own videos? you say at us what invent very much expanded lrl, include ranger tell or examiner' hung turbo version
be good see any own hung good video
seems how hung production

[Fred]

Ha,ha,ha,ha...It's Paulinho!
When Chacho's(Alonso) MD finally beeps at that scoop of sand he screams: Thank god, no more digging!
That's Paulinho. You don't know him but I do. That's just the way he is.
He has dug several and several holes already. When it's really shallow, Alonso gets the target with his hands. But when it's deep, Paulinho is in charge.

Just acknowledged that this was recovery #2. The first one was a gold ring. They switched targets in youtube's description.

Idenpendently of it´s name, i find strange that he doesn´t even look at what it is, so after giving the item to the other person he needs to ask what it was...

[hung]

Also, Fred's eagle eye spotted an interesting point, that the man digging the hole didn't even study the recovered item. It's as if he already knew what it was.

Ha,ha,ha,ha...It's Paulinho!
When Chacho's(Alonso) MD finally beeps at that scoop of sand he screams: Thank god, no more digging!
That's Paulinho. You don't know him but I do. That's just the way he is.
He has dug several and several holes already. When it's really shallow, Alonso gets the target with his hands. But when it's deep, Paulinho is in charge.

Just acknowledged that this was recovery #2. The first one was a gold ring. They switched targets in youtube's description.

[Qiaozhi]

Oh man... Now you bring magicians and magic to the equation... Please don't do. Not here.

The reality is that (whether you like it or not) such a video could easily be faked. I'm not claiming that the video you posted is a fake, just that it could be. Given the extraordinary claims being made, any potential purchasers should be open to the possibility.

About 3 years ago, Alonso was inside an abandoned mine. He was testing the FG80 at the time. Then he had a beep. Actually from close range. He marked the target as being 7 feet down. After getting certain of the exact spot and not risking loosing the ionic emanation anymore, he turned the best MD at the time for nuggets on to see if it could detect it. Of course he could not.
People started to dig. Found a 2 gram gold nugget (sorry, I can be wrong about the exact gramature, but it was something close to that).
Unfortunately he brought no video camera with him. For this Damasio wrote in the site later that the FG reached a depth for this nugget, no other MD could.

This is just hearsay.

What about it? I already stated thousands of times the device detects sunken gold in the sea.

How can it do that when the so-called (and totally unknown to conventional science) "ionic" phenomenon is supposedly dramatically reduced by moisture. I would say that the sea is a fairly moist place, wouldn't you?

That's incorrect. It has been claimed only by Morgan, that in his opinion his DC2008 can only consistently detect larger objects. Altough larger masses can undoubtely be detected from larger distances and more easily, there is no problem for small objects, as long as conditions and amount of time buried help as in the video.

Perhaps JP can scan his database of Hung quotes and tell us if you are being consistent with your comments.

I know that a video like this will always raise the most different questions, doubts and non beliefs. I see that It has been edited but only to pertrain and to keep focus in the object of the case.

So I have no coments on what you might or not believe. This is not important. A fact is a fact.

On the contrary, it is not a fact, and it is certainly important for potential purchasers to know the truth.

Also, Fred's eagle eye spotted an interesting point, that the man digging the hole didn't even study the recovered item. It's as if he already knew what it was.

[hung]

Your words two days back (and not the first time):

"The PDC altough excelent for long range detection, is troublesome to pinpoint small targets such as coins."

Mineoros "As seen on TV" show with funny and pathetic scenario and noninventive use of polished (!) target, which was, believe or not, only Alonsos pendulum bob. Really inventive comic!

And you promises "series" of fun?

It's true for the PDC. But that is not a PDC.

Today's complaints are about the gold being too shiny... Tomorrow's might be about the guys not wearing swiming suits. Heck, it's a beach, how come?

Fred: Yes. I noticed that too. They comitted a mistake. It's an earring not a ring.

[WM6]

Altough larger masses can undoubtely be detected from larger distances and more easily, there is no problem for small objects, as long as conditions and amount of time buried help as in the video.

Your words two days back (and not the first time):

"The PDC altough excelent for long range detection, is troublesome to pinpoint small targets such as coins."

Mineoros "As seen on TV" show with funny and pathetic scenario and noninventive use of polished (!) target, which was, believe or not, only Alonsos pendulum bob. Really inventive comic!

And you promises "series" of fun?

[Fred]

It is nice to finally see videos .
But i cannot see any "fact" yet. And the guy digging forgot to look at what he found, and had to ask the other guy what he had just put in his hand.
There is something strange in the video description, as it state recovering a gold ring, and this i not what have been found.

Interesting video anyway.

[gibon]

it seem's that the earing look like knew for a long time buring in to the send ?

I know that gold doesn't suffer from corrosion but it is shining like the ring of the man ?

Don't know ?

[hung]

OK - where should we start?

It is easy to dismiss the video as a fake, but this is difficult to prove one way or the other. Of course, any amateur magician

Oh man... Now you bring magicians and magic to the equation... Please don't do. Not here.

On the other hand, if we take the video at face value, then there is the question of how the Mineoro device could detect such a tiny target

About 3 years ago, Alonso was inside an abandoned mine. He was testing the FG80 at the time. Then he had a beep. Actually from close range. He marked the target as being 7 feet down. After getting certain of the exact spot and not risking loosing the ionic emanation anymore, he turned the best MD at the time for nuggets on to see if it could detect it. Of course he could not.
People started to dig. Found a 2 gram gold nugget (sorry, I can be wrong about the exact gramature, but it was something close to that).
Unfortunately he brought no video camera with him. For this Damasio wrote in the site later that the FG reached a depth for this nugget, no other MD could.

Next.

It supposedly uses "ionic fields" to detect longtime buried gold, and that these fields are severely depressed in damp conditions. Here we see in the video that the treasure is buried below the water line.

What about it? I already stated thousands of times the device detects sunken gold in the sea.

It has been repeatedly claimed that the Mineoro devices can only detect large targets, but here (if the video is to be believed) we see a very small target recovered from a great depth.

That's incorrect. It has been claimed only by Morgan, that in his opinion his DC2008 can only consistently detect larger objects. Altough larger masses can undoubtely be detected from larger distances and more easily, there is no problem for small objects, as long as conditions and amount of time buried help as in the video.

After watching the video a few times I have to say that it's not very convincing. There also appears to be far too much excitement amongst the participants, as if this whole thing is staged. Why would everyone be so amazed to find the gold pendant if this is such a common everyday occurrence? Perhaps it's just the sea air, of Brazilians are naturally excitable people?

Whatever ... it was quite entertaining.

I know that a video like this will always raise the most different questions, doubts and non beliefs. I see that It has been edited but only to pertrain and to keep focus in the object of the case.

So I have no coments on what you might or not believe. This is not important. A fact is a fact.

What surprised me a bit, is that it seems that the weather was not all sunshiny as I see not many curious people around. When Mineoro usually do these recoveries at the beach in sunny days, hundreds of curious people gather around to watch.