Mineoro videos featuring Alonso!

[Fred]

Ha,ha,ha,ha...It's Paulinho!
When Chacho's(Alonso) MD finally beeps at that scoop of sand he screams: Thank god, no more digging!
That's Paulinho. You don't know him but I do. That's just the way he is.
He has dug several and several holes already. When it's really shallow, Alonso gets the target with his hands. But when it's deep, Paulinho is in charge.

Just acknowledged that this was recovery #2. The first one was a gold ring. They switched targets in youtube's description.

Idenpendently of it´s name, i find strange that he doesn´t even look at what it is, so after giving the item to the other person he needs to ask what it was...

[detectoman]

btw, true or lie, these is an good take video, is my people of brasil, seems mineoro promotion
hung what whit your own videos? you say at us what invent very much expanded lrl, include ranger tell or examiner' hung turbo version
be good see any own hung good video
seems how hung production

[J_Player]

OK - where should we start?

It is easy to dismiss the video as a fake, but this is difficult to prove one way or the other. Of course, any amateur magician could pull off the same stunt without any problem, and you wouldn't even need to be a good magician. Note how the spade-full of sand was conveniently turned upside down as it was removed from the hole. The gold target could very easily have been dropped into the bottom of the hole as this was removed.

On the other hand, if we take the video at face value, then there is the question of how the Mineoro device could detect such a tiny target when it is known that:

1. It supposedly uses "ionic fields" to detect longtime buried gold, and that these fields are severely depressed in damp conditions. Here we see in the video that the treasure is buried below the water line.
2. It has been repeatedly claimed that the Mineoro devices can only detect large targets, but here (if the video is to be believed) we see a very small target recovered from a great depth.

After watching the video a few times I have to say that it's not very convincing. There also appears to be far too much excitement amongst the participants, as if this whole thing is staged. Why would everyone be so amazed to find the gold pendant if this is such a common everyday occurrence? Perhaps it's just the sea air, of Brazilians are naturally excitable people?

Whatever ... it was quite entertaining.

I liked watching the video too. If the video is taken at face value, I agree with Qiaozhi. This is a video made and published by a manufacturer who sells the detector that they are demonstrating. This video is suspect for that reason alone, like any other manufacturer's videos. Most manufacturer's videos are exagerated. Look at car commercials that show one model car leaving others behind their dust on the road. Do you really think manufacturers promotional videos are always factual?

Qiaozhi listed two reasons why this video is showing us evidence that the DC2008 is not performing according to the information posted and advertised by Mineoro enthusiasts in the forum:

1. It supposedly uses "ionic fields" to detect longtime buried gold, and that these fields are severely depressed in damp conditions. Here we see in the video that the treasure is buried below the water line.
2. It has been repeatedly claimed that the Mineoro devices can only detect large targets, but here (if the video is to be believed) we see a very small target recovered from a great depth.

But there is a third reason that makes this video even more suspect. I can quote a number of people who claim the people at the factory make fake demonstrations. There are people who actually visited the Mineoro factory for a demonstration, then they were fooled by a demonstration that looked real, and bought a Mineoro locator. Then when they went home, the Mineoro locator could not find any treasure as they saw during the demonstration given at the factory. It made random beeps, and did not beep at known gold items that were ultimately recovered by other methods.
Many Mineoro customers are not happy. Some say Mineoro is a cheat, or they make fake demonstrations only to impress customers.

When i was in MINEORO factory and try LRL in DAMASIO´s field test,i get clear and matematic signals 3 m distance in the marks,and he told come from small gold object. OF COURSE NOT,this good and directional signals hapens when MINEORO is detecting electrical power lines or coils , its only for MARKETING and for impession of a possible client ...

... this is only what i think and what i saw there,and each time i make friction with my hand on the plastic mark over the target,the mineoro detect more distance,and my friend Mr. Damasio not like my atitude ,of course,and i stop.

...the reason why I'm so interrested to see them is because I bought a DC2008 from mineoro. ( I really had a brain wash from Brazil )...

So what are these Mineoro factory videos?
Are they slight exagerations?
Are they totally fakes with hidden oscillators to cause beeping and freshly planted gold targets?
Are they real?

Who knows?
The only way to know for sure you have a good demonstration is to make your own video where you know how the video is made, and you know there are no tricks used.
The second best is to listen to reports from people who you know will not make false tests to impress potential customers.
I think we have some forum members who we can trust to make fair tests with no tricks to impress potential customers.

I see many forum posts by Morgan where he always reports exactly what he sees in his tests, and has never made tricks to impress people. We can also read reports from forum members in Greece, the Middle East, Western Europe, USA, Central America and South America who are not associated with any LRL factory have made posts that are easy to believe. These forum members have no motive to give false reports.

A survey has begun where people who watch actual Mineoro locators in the field can report what they see. We can read what other people report for the Mineoro performance here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16967

Unless someone posts before him, Andreas will be the first to post his observations of the performance of a Mineoro locator in Greece. We will see if he found the same performance as the Mineoro factory video for locating small jewelry items. He can tell us if he heard beeping near treasures. We will find out what distance detection he observed for the Mineoro DC2008.

These are real field reports... not a factory published video.
If you used a Mineoro locator, or watched a Mineoro locator work, you can make your post to tell what you saw too.
Post here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16967

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

MINEORO

[quote=hung;116260]

How pathetic...
You can be deslusional as you want, but watch out, your next self deception is about to happen soon at the dowsing demonstration when one more of your 'beliefs' will implode as a 'castle of cards'.
Better take your Prozac with you.

What a short distance Paulinho Torquato detects this target,half meter above the ground ?...Even PD can do better

[Morgan]

Mineoro

[quote=Morgan;116310]

What a short distance Paulinho Torquato detects this target,half meter above the ground ?...Even PD can do better

SORRY, THIS ANSWER WAS FOR HUNG

[hung]

[quote=Morgan;116311]

SORRY, THIS ANSWER WAS FOR HUNG

No, it can't. Due to the size of coil and architecture of PD it's physically impossible.
Humidity was above 80%. I knew it because I could see the sky all cloudy, so no good for larger distances. Paulinho told me that the DC got it from 2 meters distance. Good and strong beeps. Of course, the deepest the target, the stronger the field.

Here's Alonso's newest pistol getting a gold necklace about the same depth. This is the second video.
As a sidenote, just check how powerful that prototype MD is. There's a moment that it rises well above ground and still gets the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCboUui1AY

They know the videos are not the ideal ones, as they had to edit them due to extreme long filming. In fact there were 3 recoveries. The first being a gold ring but the camera man did not arrive at the beach on time to film it.
They plan other videos but this time, no editing.
Have fun.

[Morgan]

VIDEO

[quote=hung;116313]

No, it can't. Due to the size of coil and architecture of PD it's physically impossible.
Humidity was above 80%. I knew it because I could see the sky all cloudy, so no good for larger distances. Paulinho told me that the DC got it from 2 meters distance. Good and strong beeps. Of course, the deepest the target, the stronger the field.

Here's Alonso's newest pistol getting a gold necklace about the same depth. This is the second video.
As a sidenote, just check how powerful that prototype MD is. There's a moment that it rises well above ground and still gets the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCboUui1AY

They know the videos are not the ideal ones, as they had to edit them due to extreme long filming. In fact there were 3 recoveries. The first being a gold ring but the camera man did not arrive at the beach on time to film it.
They plan other videos but this time, no editing.
Have fun.

Yes,its a LRL video...

Say hello to Paulinho and his humble family

Regards

[hung]

[quote=Morgan;116316]

Yes,its a LRL video...

Say hello to Paulinho and his humble family

Regards

You know, you can wonder now how many jewelry are lost at high depths in beaches and are missed by ALL conventional MDs...
Do you understand how serious this is?

[gibon]

[QUOTE=hung;116318]

You know, you can wonder now how many jewelry are lost at high depths in beaches and are missed by ALL conventional MDs...
Do you understand how serious this is?

Ok Hung this Video is much more better than the first one.

We can see clarly the target recovered by your friend.

Now it's ok.

[J_Player]

You know, you can wonder now how many jewelry are lost at high depths in beaches and are missed by ALL conventional MDs...
Do you understand how serious this is?

Nobody has shown any recoveries of small jewelry at a beach using Mineoro locators anywhere in the world except Mineoro factory people. Yet we see hundreds of jewelry recoveries at beaches using metal detectors every month. Look at the photos of all the jewelry recoveries here: http://www.findmall.com/list.php?26
There are hundreds more recoveries shown in more beach detector forums all over the world. But not a single beach recovery shown using Mineoro locators except in Mineoro promotional videos.

These Mineoro beach recoveries that are only shown in Mineoro promotional videos are being used to sell LRLs that cost thousands of dollars.

Do you understand how serious this is?
Is it thousands of dollars serious?

Best wishes,
J_P

[takhslambos]

mineoro dc 2008

THANKS HUNG EXELENT VIDEO I THINK IS 1000 TRUE .

[hung]

Nobody has shown any recoveries of small jewelry at a beach using Mineoro locators anywhere in the world except Mineoro factory people.
J_P

Thank God.
If I was in a particular beach prospecting with my device and all of a sudden I happened to spot a guy with a Mineoro in this same beach, I would feel like beating him up for sure.

[takhslambos]

mineoro

true this is the first video that they found gold...........

[Qiaozhi]

So what is this?
A prototype Mineoro on a stick?

[takhslambos]

mineoro

hung in what distanse he locate the gold earing whith the mineoro dc2008?