My L-Rod, what think about this...?

[J_Player]

Hi to all friends,


this my new video from my L-Rod...

http://hotfile.com/dl/83965532/e8bc0be/myLRL2.3gp.html

Hi GOLDENSKULL,

Thank you for another video showing how dowsing works to find the object hidden under one of four cups. This looks like an interesting video. But there are some skeptics who will think you cannot find the object if someone else hides it, then leaves the room before you enter to find the hidden object.

Here are two test suggestions for an improved test demonstration:

1. Double blind test in the room
If you made the same test when someone else will hide the object, then he leaves the room and you enter to find the object, then your test will be more interesting. Be sure you do not see or talk to the person who hides the object until after you find the hidden object. You should also have a third person to come in the room and follow you with a camera to show that you are finding the object without making mistakes for which cup it is hidden under.

Even using this more interesting test, some people will not believe. They will prefer to see the test done with many witnesses, to make sure there is no trick, and no way you can talk to the person who hides the object. But it will be a better test than the test where you hide the object and you find it.

2. Blind test 2 km
This is demonstration I would like to see:
Take two gold ear rings and place one of them in the dowsing rod. Give the other ear ring to a friend and tell him to hide in a city 2 km distance from where you are. He can hide it by putting it in a hole in the ground, or by putting it under a seat cushion in a restaurant, or in the grass at a park, in a tree, or anywhere else he can think of. Then he must leave the location of the hidden ear ring and go at least 1 km distance where he can wait at a restaurant and drink coffee or other tasty beverages until you bring him the ear ring he hid. Of course, you cannot talk to him until you arrive with the ear ring he hid, and no mobile phone communication either. The only information you will have is the name of the restaurant to bring the recovered ear ring to. This should be much harder than the double blind tests most people want to see, because the hiding place is not limited to 4 or 10 choices under known cups. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for you to bring the hidden ring to him in the restaurant.

Best wishes,
J_P

[gibon]

Hi to all friends,


this my new video from my L-Rod...

http://hotfile.com/dl/83965532/e8bc0be/myLRL2.3gp.html

Congratulation Goldensull.

Theire is nothing to say.

This is the reason why I'm more confident with dowsing method

better than expensive electronic scam.

So the Bad faith of some kind of administrator here around

is still operating for sur.

On the kind recomandation of Qiaozhi next video put one of your leg in the air and touch

your nose with your finger .

THEN HE WILL BE CONVINCED

Sincerly GIBON

[Theseus]

With all due respect ... this is not a double-blind test.

Please repeat the test, but have someone else hide the target. As I said before, the person hiding the target must not be present in the room during the L-rod test, and you should not be present while the target is being hidden.

It is not even close to a D-B test.

[GOLDENSKULL]

Hi J_Player and all other dear friends,

At first i must say to all that, we build this L-Rod with cooperation of me and my friend and we can reach to this result, after about 3 years of research and experience, and it is clear , that me and my friend don't want to self deceit ourselves...

we decided to introduce our device in this forum, for encourage and inform to others that, one L-Rod can really work if it build correctly...

but someones can not believe this, and of course this is not important for us...
we build this device for ourselves, not for these mans...

our main aim is, seriously go to treasure hunting and we begin this job in these days...
i can doing any experience that you want from me, but you must know that, my tests in my videos are in real condition and without any tricks...

[takhslambos]

LRL

me personal i m not a dowser.do you think i can work with your lrl?i tried difrent lrl in the past with L ,BUT WITH NO GOOD RESOLTS.i hade no good stability in my hands.

[Qiaozhi]

Qiaozhi, you know well i don't believe lrods and dowsing
I see this video, with all due respect your person ... Yes!!!! this is a blind test.
Of course is better, If we want... a real double blind test, work with your opinion "....As I said before, the person hiding the target must not be present in the room during the L-rod test, and you should not be present while the target is being hidden...." is correct. But now i am confused, because i see with a simple blind test..... maybe dowsing work
best regards

The test shown in the video is not a controlled test. It is more akin to a simple conjuring trick. Of course dowsing does not work, but self-deception is a powerful force.

It is not even close to a D-B test.

Exactly. But trying to get the dowsing believers to perform the test is very difficult.

... it is clear , that me and my friend don't want to self deceit ourselves...

Then please perform the double-blind test. JP has clearly outlined the procedure in his post, in case you have not understand the requirements.
Perhaps you are afraid of finding out the truth about dowsing, or you already know the test will fail and therefore are avoiding performing the test. Which is it?

but someones can not believe this, and of course this is not important for us...
we build this device for ourselves, not for these mans...

our main aim is, seriously go to treasure hunting and we begin this job in these days...
i can doing any experience that you want from me, but you must know that, my tests in my videos are in real condition and without any tricks...

I'm not suggesting that you are intentionally using trickery in your videos, but you are tricking yourself into believing something that is not true. If you really want to find the truth, you will perform the test as described.

[Theseus]

we decided to introduce our device in this forum, for encourage and inform to others that, one L-Rod can really work if it build correctly...

but someones can not believe this, and of course this is not important for us...
we build this device for ourselves, not for these mans..

our main aim is, seriously go to treasure hunting and we begin this job in these days...

i can doing any experience that you want from me, but you must know that, my tests in my videos are in real condition and without any tricks...

If you built your L-rod strictly for you and your small group to use, and you do not want any constructive feedback, then really there was no reason to bring it to anyone else's attention, especially those of us on a public forum.

If, as you say, your aim is to use your L-rod for serious treasure hunting, I would say you will be better off leaving the L-rod at home, and spending the same time you would have expended on dowsing; by doing basic research and digging up facts about the suspected treasure. In fact, the only thing that L-rod can do for you, is to point in the direction of where you already suspect (or believe) a treasure might be located. In that regard, you might just as well eliminate the use of the L-rod, and then (as a group) decide where the most likely spot would be for a treasure; go there, metal detect, and if necessary dig some holes.

The design of your L-rod is not unlike many other L-rods from past decades. It involves a swivel antenna, and a bait chamber. Bait chambers have been put in L-rods for literally tens of years now. The idea is that a substance in the bait chamber will somehow cause the rod to draw (point to) a similar substance in the distance. Years ago, this concept was proved to be pure fallacy. Nothing physical happens, or CAN happen between the bait and substances in the distance. In fact, it has been found that the rod will move and point the same way if all you do is write down on a small piece of paper, the name of the substance you are seeking, and then placing that paper in the bait chamber. It is a trick of the mind, and the idea of "like materials pulling towards like materials" is of course pure fallacy.

Now, as has been mentioned, your testing technique is quite simple and contains many flaws and what are called "information leaks". The only true test for your L-rod, or any L-rod for that matter, is a very structured and closely monitored double-blind test.

And, IF you will submit your L-rod creation to that kind of testing, I guarantee you will find that it performs statistically no better than ordinary guessing.

[WM6]

It is a trick of the mind, and the idea of "like materials pulling towards like materials" is of course pure fallacy.

By put radioactive material in bait chamber they can only find some nuclear power plant, not gold.

[takhslambos]

Hi J_Player and all other dear friends,

At first i must say to all that, we build this L-Rod with cooperation of me and my friend and we can reach to this result, after about 3 years of research and experience, and it is clear , that me and my friend don't want to self deceit ourselves...

we decided to introduce our device in this forum, for encourage and inform to others that, one L-Rod can really work if it build correctly...

but someones can not believe this, and of course this is not important for us...
we build this device for ourselves, not for these mans...

our main aim is, seriously go to treasure hunting and we begin this job in these days...
i can doing any experience that you want from me, but you must know that, my tests in my videos are in real condition and without any tricks...

do a test outside with some buried gold.....

[J_Player]

Hi J_Player and all other dear friends,

At first i must say to all that, we build this L-Rod with cooperation of me and my friend and we can reach to this result, after about 3 years of research and experience, and it is clear , that me and my friend don't want to self deceit ourselves...

we decided to introduce our device in this forum, for encourage and inform to others that, one L-Rod can really work if it build correctly...

but someones can not believe this, and of course this is not important for us...
we build this device for ourselves, not for these mans...

our main aim is, seriously go to treasure hunting and we begin this job in these days...
i can doing any experience that you want from me, but you must know that, my tests in my videos are in real condition and without any tricks...

Hi GOLDENSKULL,

You have shown clear evidence that your dowsing rod will point to gold and wood pieces that you put in plain sight or that you hide under a cup in a room. All skeptics and dowsing believers agree your method of dowsing is good to find treasures that you hide. When I see your video, I believe your demonstration is in real condition without any tricks. I know you will never use tricks in your demonstrations. This is why it is good to see your videos for real conditions. I would also like to see the improved test #1 and test #2 when you have time to make the test.

For test #1 it is easy... same as your last video, except you need 2 friends to help. -- One friend to hide the gold under a cup, and other friend to hold the video camera when you enter the room to find the hidden gold.

1. Double blind test in the room
If you made the same test when someone else will hide the object, then he leaves the room and you enter to find the object, then your test will be more interesting. Be sure you do not see or talk to the person who hides the object until after you find the hidden object. You should also have a third person to come in the room and follow you with a camera to show that you are finding the object without making mistakes for which cup it is hidden under.

For test #2 no video is needed. You can ask any friend to hide an ear ring in the city 2 km distance, then wait at a restaurant for you to find the hidden ear ring and bring it to the friend. No video necessary. I would only like to know the story of your search for the hidden ear ring, and how long it takes for you to find it. Maybe you get some false signals? Maybe all good signals and find the hidden ear ring very fast? I would like to hear all details of the search for the ear ring.

2. Blind test 2 km
This is demonstration I would like to see:
Take two gold ear rings and place one of them in the dowsing rod. Give the other ear ring to a friend and tell him to hide in a city 2 km distance from where you are. He can hide it by putting it in a hole in the ground, or by putting it under a seat cushion in a restaurant, or in the grass at a park, in a tree, or anywhere else he can think of. Then he must leave the location of the hidden ear ring and go at least 1 km distance where he can wait at a restaurant and drink coffee or other tasty beverages until you bring him the ear ring he hid. Of course, you cannot talk to him until you arrive with the ear ring he hid, and no mobile phone communication either. The only information you will have is the name of the restaurant to bring the recovered ear ring to. This should be much harder than the double blind tests most people want to see, because the hiding place is not limited to 4 or 10 choices under known cups. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for you to bring the hidden ring to him in the restaurant.

It will be good to see test #1 and hear a report for test #2 when you have time.

Best wishes,
J_P

[takhslambos]

LRL

I THINK THIS IS NOT WORKING.....SORRY.............

[GOLDENSKULL]

I THINK THIS IS NOT WORKING.....SORRY.............

YES, YOU ALL SAYING CORRECT,
MY L-ROD
IS NOT WORKING,
i am very sorry too...

[Qiaozhi]

YES, YOU ALL SAYING CORRECT,
MY L-ROD
IS NOT WORKING,
i am very sorry too...

From your statement we can assume one of the following:

1. You have carried out the double-blind test as described and discovered the sad truth about dowsing.
2. This was a sarcastic comment, indicating that you have no intention of carrying out the test, in case it negates your strong belief in the non-existent dowsing phenomenon.

Hopefully it was the former, in which case - "Welcome to the real world".

[Mike(Mont)]

I never said it didn't work as a dowsing rod. I have questions about the radioactive load somehow magically making the rod find anything. That one I do not believe. What books have you studied that showed you how to use the radioactive material, or was it just something you came up with?

[GOLDENSKULL]

I think that, i shouldn't introduce this
L-Rod in here...