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[J_Player]

Afternoon J-Player. What would be it's equivelent in metal? Starting from zero, what would be the progression from the original deposition to the latest?

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Metal has no equivalent of organic acids. Metals generally are arranged in lattices, and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells.
Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon, or substances that coat their surface to protect them from rust and oxidation.

According to the best science available, rust and oxidation is a natural process caused by a chemical reaction between oxygen or other chemical which tends to corrode a metal.
There has never been any metal known to have DNA or other organic acids that produce any anti-oxidizing substance which coats it's surface.

Can you show some examples to the contrary?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Metals generally are arranged in lattices,-- agreed, so?

and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells. -- Not what we clasify as living cells, but???

Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon -- agreed, but then much of microbial life isn't either.

Why this fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it..

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist":.

[J_Player]

Metals generally are arranged in lattices,-- agreed, so?

and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells. -- Not what we clasify as living cells, but???

Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon -- agreed, but then much of microbial life isn't either.

Why this fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it..

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist":.

There is no fixation other than the one Dr. hung established when he made a statement that Gold DNA produces a substance. This is a fixed statement which says DNA produced a substance. And as we know, DNA is an organic acid which is capable of causing reproduction as well as causing other organic substances to be produced. DNA is in fact a component of living organisms which produce a variety of substances. Do you begin to understand that a DNA molecule must conform to the life form it grew from? That it cannot simply transmute itself from a carbon based molecule into a metal lattice that does not have the necessary elements arranged as needed? Do you understand that a typical metal lattice is not alive as a cell where a DNA molecule lives and determines reproduction?

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Gravity is quite well documented with a tons of information available to anyone who wants to read it.
Any stupid idea that Myron Evans has a better idea about gravity or how to create energy from a vaccum is really idiotic.
Especially idiotic when you consider all the real scientists who call him a quack, and when you consider all attempts to build apparatus to work using his theories never produced anything useful.
So maybe you got a contrary definition of gravity that does not follow the conventional description that is so well documented?

J_P

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

[Rudy]

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

I think a gravity wave just passed by and spilled all the gravitons I had in a bowl.

[Jim]

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

YIKES!!

I think hungs account has been compromised by his 2-year old thug nephew!

[J_Player]

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

The fact is we all know what gravity is, and we know the definition can be found in books which define it such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, science textbooks, and from learning where it is taught in classes which teach the subject.

It seems to me you are the one who cannot understand how the force of gravity works.
Is it difficult for you to admit that the force of gravity effects any dowsing rod or LRL which has a dowsing rod attached?
Is it difficult for you to admit a dowsing rod can find the direction of the force of gravity with good precision when the user does not allow his arm muscles to cause it to point elsewhere?

I can pass a double blind test to find the direction of the force of gravity every time when using only a dowsing rod.
But when using a dowsing rod to find the location of a hidden object, I will fail the same as any person who claims he can dowse during a double blind test.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

good mornig, bk J-Player: I am curious on this fixation on carbon based dna? Remember this is used in just a narrow range of reproductive materiel.

Who is to say just how long, how, or if, shall we say, a metal needs to normally reproduce itself? 10 years? 1000? billions? Remember the Universe itself is thought to be a reproductive form, this is what we normally consider life, no?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Hi again mi firdnd J_Player: You posted --> The fact is we all know what gravity is, and we know the definition can be found in books which define it such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, science textbooks, and from learning where it is taught in classes which teach the subject.
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They now are not too sure whether it is an attractive, repulsive or a combination force.
Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[goldfinder]

gravity is gradE

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

When there is a gradient in the Electric Field then mass will move and accelerated in that field.

Dr. Hung - I hope this satisfies your wanting to know what gravity is. If you have and math expertise (at least calculus) check out Paul Stowe and Dr. Barry Mingst and gravity in google. They derive this quite nicely.

Goldfinder

[J_Player]

good mornig, bk J-Player: I am curious on this fixation on carbon based dna? Remember this is used in just a narrow range of reproductive materiel.

Who is to say just how long, how, or if, shall we say, a metal needs to normally reproduce itself? 10 years? 1000? billions? Remember the Universe itself is thought to be a reproductive form, this is what we normally consider life, no?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Hi Mr. Don,
Didn't I already provide the answer about the fixation of carbon based DNA when I answered about the fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it?
Didn't I explain that there is no fixation other than the one Dr. hung established when he made a statement that Gold DNA produces a substance?
Didn't I explain that Dr. hung made a fixed statement which says DNA produced a substance?

The answer lies in the definition of DNA.
DNA is a carbon based organic acid by definition, which is capable of determining reproduction as well as causing other organic substances to be produced.
DNA is in fact a component of living organisms which produce a variety of substances.

DNA is not a metal lattice. If it was a metal lattice, it could not be called DNA, because DNA is defined to be deoxyribonucleic acid. Deoxyribonucleic acid is not a metal lattice.... Really!
DNA is an acid based on carbon by definition. And it is a carbon-based acid which is naturally produced only in living material.
Isn't saying that gold has DNA which produces a substance that coats it's surface about as stupid as saying cars have wings that cause them to fly like airplanes?

If you were to enter the dream and fairy tale world, where DNA forms and grows in a metal lattice, then you may also continue the embellishments of your dream to claim the metal DNA produces a substance which coats the metal surface. There is no limit to how far you could dream... You could even dream that electrical charges have emotions that can grow to become as strong as a love affair like Romeo and Juliet!

But if we choose not to base our view of the real world on a fairy tale dream world, we can observe that the definition of DNA is a carbon based organic acid that is found in living organisms, not in gold jewelry or other gold items. And we can observe that there is no deoxyribonucleic acid in gold producing any substance that coats its surface.

It is a matter of choice. You can choose to live in a dream world that does not correspond to reality, or you can choose to see reality for what it is, and not choose to twist your observations into something that you wish they could be instead. Most people learn to see reality for what it is after they experience the consequences of living in a dream world.

Do you begin to understand that a DNA molecule must conform to the life form it grew from? That it cannot simply transmute itself from a carbon based molecule into a metal lattice that does not have the necessary elements arranged as needed? Do you understand that a typical metal lattice is not alive as a cell where a DNA molecule lives and determines reproduction?

Or do you really believe that metals such as gold contain DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid), and that this deoxyribonucleic acid contained in gold produces a substance that coats its surface to fight against rust and oxidation?


Best wishes,
J_P

P.S. I am not sure that you will disagree with the fairy tale world version of gold DNA and the substance it produces to coat the metal surface.
But then doesn't the name "Don Jose de La Mancha" correspond to a "knight errant"? One in a long line of "knights errant"?

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Morning J_p. I doubt that I have ever said that metal, the celestial bodies, or what we consider inanimate bodies, had DNA, but, 'perhaps' an equivelent.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Morning J_P: When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

This is an attempt to say that yes, I do know what DNA is and how it supposedly works.

Don Jose de La Mancha

" I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Morning J_P: When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

This is an attempt to say that yes, I do know what DNA is and how it supposedly works.

Don Jose de La Mancha

" I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Oh.
I didn't know that. Now I know.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

Ummm... so what was your first job when you graduated from medical school?

Best wishes,
J_P