H3Tec sad testimonial

[fenixdigger]

I have also used one. It did lock targets, but none turned out to be what we were looking for.

Until I DIG an intended target, it does not "work" Locking a signal is not the same as finding a predetermined target.

Way too much money for those results.

If they were to say, " split the first 2 large finds and get your deposit back or return it and get your money back" that would be different.

Hold your breath on that to happen.

[Mike(Mont)]

jp, I told you I am not here to defend H3TEC. Your words mean nothing to me as I consider every skeptic (and even some claimed-to-be proponents) to be unqualified to even discuss LRL's. You really need to get over the holier-than-thou logic thing you have. Here's a book for you "Knowing Your Intuitive Mind".

I am not referring to Tim. I'm talking about those who do not know what a signal line is.

[Qiaozhi]

I am not referring to Tim. I'm talking about those who do not know what a signal line is.

Since "signal lines" do not exist ... and you claim to know what one is ... ... the phrase "horribly confused" come to mind.

Wishful thinking, selective memory and self delusion are products of the "intuitive mind". Try not to let it dominate your life ... or perhaps it's already too late?

[Mike(Mont)]

I know most all skeptics live by logic--it is their god. Don't get me wrong, I have a very logical mind developed through years of geometry and higher math. I read somewhere those that live by the left brain are severly handicapped. I also read that some people considered to be mentally retarded can dowse. Go figure.

I will make a couple comments about this thread. I've mentioned this before, at treasure shows there is so much electronic interference I doubt any LRL will work. Also there is the fact that at times LRL's just don't work. Some metal detectors won't work, either!!!Some people refuse to accept this fact. As for signal lines, I have my doubts about the H3TEC designers whether they understand what a signal line is. This is the discrimination and it appears to be similar to what is now called Witricity. If I was to use an H3TEC I would set it on the ground and walk around it to find the discriminated signal line--maybe even build my own antenna for it.

[fenixdigger]

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist. That is just what we call it. We are looking for the "connection" between similar substances. I can't remember the location of the report that was done on this, but it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings.

When you get down to this level, who knows how far it will go? It is a minuscule amount of energy as we perceive it, but can we perceive the energy in a grain of sand? Let it release all of it's energy and see what happens. Remember E=mc2.

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level
ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

[Qiaozhi]

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist. That is just what we call it. We are looking for the "connection" between similar substances. I can't remember the location of the report that was done on this, but it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings.

When you get down to this level, who knows how far it will go? It is a minuscule amount of energy as we perceive it, but can we perceive the energy in a grain of sand? Let it release all of it's energy and see what happens. Remember E=mc2.

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level
ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

If (as you claim) you "understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well"; you would not be making such statements as "it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings". This is just pseudo-scientific gobbledygook.

[J_Player]

jp, I told you I am not here to defend H3TEC. Your words mean nothing to me as I consider every skeptic (and even some claimed-to-be proponents) to be unqualified to even discuss LRL's. You really need to get over the holier-than-thou logic thing you have. Here's a book for you "Knowing Your Intuitive Mind".

...I am not referring to Tim. I'm talking about those who do not know what a signal line is.

Hi Mike(Mont),
Once again, you are demonstrating your failure to recognize what my words are here for.
I never said you were here to defend U3Tec. We can all read how you made that point clear in your first post.
Perhaps you should go back and read what was written and maybe understand that I was addressing two statements you made which seem a bit odd to me.
(These two statements coming from someone who claims to have a very logical mind developed through years of geometry and higher math).
If you scroll back you will see I was addressing these two statements you made:

I have never used one so I don't know. Anyone here tried one? Didn't think so but that never stopped anyone from claiming they kknow all about it.

and:

... So they blame the LRL when it is really their own fault.

And you also recall this is an open forum... ie: a place where people can discuss ideas, which is exactly what I did.

In case you didn't understand it, I offered an alternate opinion to your statement that "people blame the LRL when it is really their own fault".
In some cases what you say about blaming the equipment could be true.
But there is an overwhelming body of evidence in the case of H3Tec that leads any normal person to believe the thing does not work.
A normal person would feel that they are correct if they blamed the H3Tec locator for not finding hidden treasure instead of blaming themselves.
H3Tec has been caught telling a long list of lies designed to make it appear their locator actually works, while at the same time, they refuse to actually perform the blind testing they lied about.
Any arguments that there is electrical interference at a treasure show is a moot point, because the signal that they claimed was being sent to "excite the selected isotope" was discovered to be connected to a grounded wire, not to a wire with a signal from their circuitry. It does not take high logic to figure out H3Tec has no substantial supporting evidence to suggest their locator can locate anything, especially when it fails every time to locate things that are hidden by someone who is not associated with the manufacturer. The evidence they have turns out to be a pack of lies they posted on their website.

So you are not referring to Tim Williams? Why should we exclude him?
He was there with Carl-NC hiding silver for the H3Tec people to find.
You expect we will ignore the fact that H3Tec failed to find the coins he hid because you say we shouldn't include his testimony?

This is getting stupid.
No normal minded person will ignore evidence that could cost them $10,000+ to buy non-working treasure finders.
What next? ... Should we ignore all the lies that H3Tec got caught with because we haven't actually tried one of their locators?
The evidence of their lies is all over the internet. Read the links in my post to check it out.... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...147#post125147

I never said anything holier than you did, I only offered a second point of view for people who have not actually tried an H3Tec locator, but have noticed a long trail of lies coming from the manufacturer.
My idea is for people who noticed H3Tec lied about a high-tech isotope-exciting signal which was discovered to be a non-signal that was only a grounded wire.
My idea is for people who wonder why the owner of H3Tec lied in the Geotech forum, saying silver bars have different silver isotopes than are found in silver coins to explain why his locator doesn't work.
My idea is for people who wonder why H3Tec lied about their locator finding gold at the National Geographic presentation.
People can read your idea, or my alternate idea and choose which they think is more useful for their purposes.

If my words mean nothing to you, then why bother to make replies to them twice?
You could simply ignore my meaningless words.

Best wishes,
J_P

[fenixdigger]

I must have been mistaken. By chance have you been involved in atomic weapons or fissionable materials? Are you saying that elements do not have a unique
frequency based on their atomic make up?

[Qiaozhi]

As for signal lines, I have my doubts about the H3TEC designers whether they understand what a signal line is

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist.

Unfortunately the LRL / dowsing proponents cannot even agree on one of their most basic assumptions.

[J_Player]

I must have been mistaken. By chance have you been involved in atomic weapons or fissionable materials? Are you saying that elements do not have a unique
frequency based on their atomic make up?

Hi fenixdigger,

I also believe that elements can be detected from a long distance by using electronics which can recognize and measure isotopes of the element. In fact this has been done for decades using electronic machines that find a variety of buried metals. And you are correct, the energy from these isotopes is minuscule to the point that the background noise makes it hard for the electronics to see the signal from the isotopes. Yet there are working electronic detectors that can locate gold and other elements from many miles away using gamma spectroscopy methods. Even the best of these electronic instruments has to deal with the background noise and other interfering energy signals, but modern electronics could be used to improve the detection efficiency.

But I seriously doubt that H3Tec will ever detect any isotopes for the simple reason that they are using fake electronics.
You can see they connected a grounded wire to a dowsing rod, and claimed this is used to send out a signal up to 10 miles that "excites the isotope" that you can select using their software.
Read here and down to see there is a single ground wire connected to a dowsing rod... no signal at all: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...972#post119972

How can a grounded dowsing rod compare to a gamma scintillator with its classifying spectroscope in a satellite, or in a portable ground unit?
Are we expected to believe that a grounded dowsing rod is "exciting" isotopes in a grid up to 10 miles square?
If so, then why would H3Tec claim the isotopes are excited by the signal coming from the locator?
Why wouldn't they tell us the truth... that they expect us excite the isotopes for 10 miles by holding holding a grounded dowsing rod?

And why would the owner of H3Tec tell us they cannot find silver bars if their locator is set for the isotope found in silver coins?
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7892#post87892

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7935#post87935

This is an outright lie. Silver coins and bars both have the same percent of each silver isotope regardless of how they were manufactured or what they are alloyed with.
That excuse cannot work to explain why the locator fails to find silver.

I am with you. I think there are undiscovered methods to find buried metals at long range by detecting isotopes.
But from what I see, The H3Tec people are living out their Startreck fantasy dream of a treasure tricorder that they expect their customers to finance by buying their grounded dowsing rods.
All that other crap on the circuit board appears to be there only to convince people it is really is a tricorder, and is worth a lot of money.

Did you ever consider that if you removed the batteries from the H3Tec locator, you would have found the same results as you did with them connected?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

Ok, why not, LRL´s are new discoveries and technologies too advanced to be explained...But then why have their practical uses never been demonstrated?
People like the ones you mentioned used to demonstrate their find by experiments, even if they were wrong about explanations .

[Jim]

I must have been mistaken. By chance have you been involved in atomic weapons or fissionable materials? Are you saying that elements do not have a unique
frequency based on their atomic make up?

Are you saying the basic frequency generator will replicate the effects of a Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy (NMR spectroscopy)?

[fenixdigger]

Jim, not a chance. But it could hit a harmonic of the actually frequency. Now, it is an accident when that happens, which is what causes the % of finds to be so low.

When you do get close, you are also in a harmonic of several other elements, as the S/G is not nearly precise enough to "hit" gold or silver by themselves.

Understand that a sample target on top of the ground is not the same as a long buried target. Here's where the scam comes in. IF a device can locate a sample, that doesn't mean
it can find buried targets.

[fenixdigger]

Fred;

I can't speak for anyone outside my circle. Some of the phenomena I have seen has only happened once. To think it could be reproduced on demand is out of the question.

We are lucky to have any success 1 out of 8 or 10 trips. Too many variables with current equipment. However, after the last trip, my southern counterpart has made recovery every time he has went. I haven't had time to prove out the last changes we developed.

He says they are working, but until I see it,, well you know. I've heard that before.

[Fred]

I see.
So, from your personal experience, and in other words, it doesn´t really work, and we don´t know why.