Carl's phony LRL report

[Fred]

I am confused: should i take the maid or the dog to the field ? they both act randomly, so i suppose they work equally well.

[Fred]

How to show to you if you have your eyes closed????
There are a lot of true videos that you see but you don't remember

Hi Geo,
Videos are true, but what we see in them is unclear.

[Carl-NC]

If you can't use an LRL there is no way of knowing. I've made the analogy in the past about someone who can't golf and then writes a report on a set of used golf clubs.

Mike, can you use an LRL? Can you show me? I'm absolutely sure you can't, and that you will refuse. All that are left are the alibis, let's hear 'em.

[ivconic]

Let's wait Obama to reveal secrets about UFOs and extraterrestrials, than we will reconsider also LRL possibility again.
Most probably ET will give us also LRL technology that actually WILL WORK!
I bet White's, Garret and Fisher will be the first to produce such devices!
Carl is rocket scientist... rockets.... extraterrestrials.... does bell ringing?!
Dear LRL believers, now you know why Carl is refusing to accept LRL concept that is already proven to you!?

P.S.
C'mon! Light up! Stop more arguing... you... people! Who gives a $hit about whether LRL is working or not? Personally i don't! I choose this hobby simply because i like conventional metal detectors and electronics. If you are convinced that your LRL is working - than be happy! Don't argue and annoy anymore here, please!

[WM6]

P.S.
C'mon! Light up! Stop more arguing... you... people! Who gives a $hit about whether LRL is working or not? Personally i don't! I choose this hobby simply because i like conventional metal detectors and electronics. If you are convinced that your LRL is working - than be happy! Don't argue and annoy anymore here, please!

Agree.

Hard beliefs are good inner substitute to arguments.

But unsecure beliefs generate inner needs for harder validation and therefore argue those beliefs to others outside testers.

[Rudy]

Mike, can you use an LRL? Can you show me? I'm absolutely sure you can't, and that you will refuse. All that are left are the alibis, let's hear 'em.

Carl, if I may offer a friendly amendment to what you said.

Mike, can you successfully use an LRL?

Anybody can use one, wave it around, walk with it, .... Finding precious metals with it is something else.

[Mike(Mont)]

This thread is not about me. I will answer this one question, but first I want to say it is a loaded question in this sub-tabloid scenario.

"MAN RISKS LIFE! WALKS ACROSS BROADWAY ON TIGHTWIRE!!!" reads the headlines of a small newspaper here. When you turn the page to the story there is a photo of a guy walking across the street and a wire is laying on the road under his feet. Was he risking his life? Of course anytime a person jaywalks on a busy street. Was the headlines truthful? Yes. Honest? Not by my way of thinking. That's the same mentality here. How to you define "successfully"? Am I rich? No. I'm not rich from using my top-of-the-line metal detector either (I won't name the brand and it doesn't really matter anyway.) Can I pass Carl's trumped up test? I woudn't bet on it. Would I take his test? Yes if he paid me enough for my time but my rates are going to be steeper that one certain LRL manufacturer. Can I find gold with my LRL better than random chance? Yes, by a long ways. Can I do so every time without fail as in 100%? Probably not, but I did hit 100% in my test area over the course of one week. What does all this prove? Nothing. Would I go treasure hunting or even metal detecting without an LRL? No way.

[J_Player]

This thread is not about me. I will answer this one question, but first I want to say it is a loaded question in this sub-tabloid scenario.

"MAN RISKS LIFE! WALKS ACROSS BROADWAY ON TIGHTWIRE!!!" reads the headlines of a small newspaper here. When you turn the page to the story there is a photo of a guy walking across the street and a wire is laying on the road under his feet. Was he risking his life? Of course anytime a person jaywalks on a busy street. Was the headlines truthful? Yes. Honest? Not by my way of thinking. That's the same mentality here. How to you define "successfully"? Am I rich? No. I'm not rich from using my top-of-the-line metal detector either (I won't name the brand and it doesn't really matter anyway.) Can I pass Carl's trumped up test? I woudn't bet on it. Would I take his test? Yes if he paid me enough for my time but my rates are going to be steeper that one certain LRL manufacturer. Can I find gold with my LRL better than random chance? Yes, by a long ways. Can I do so every time without fail as in 100%? Probably not, but I did hit 100% in my test area over the course of one week. What does all this prove? Nothing. Would I go treasure hunting or even metal detecting without an LRL? No way.

Hi Mike,
I can think of a test that you can't do which does prove something.

I believe you can't pass a test to find items other people hide in a field you have never seen before even 50% of the time. I am talking about a grassy field 200 feet square where strangers who you never met before bury an object such as a coin or a ring 1 inch deep. 50% is no where near 100%, but it should be enough to demonstrate that you have some success with your LRL. Of course you would find good success if nobody else was watching, but I bet you can't get 50% or better if other people who you don't know are watching. I think you cannot do it because we never saw any real evidence you can do it even one time -- only a bunch of talk.

On the other hand, I think a metal detector can locate the hidden coin or ring every time. I have watched this happen for total strangers many times with different metal detectors.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Carl-NC]

I spent countless hours developing the Revelation Locator Rod and hundreds of dollars on parts and tools. Each rod takes a few hours to build. Add in parts running, postage, etc. and it's a good bet you won't get it right on the first few attempts even if you steal my design. If that's not enough, this rod is for professionals. I have taken it to a couple dowsing conventions and most people--even some with L-rod experience--were unable to even keep it balanced. But yes, it is in a class all it's own. As I say it transcends smoothness. If you want the smoothest action rod in the world, this is it.

Mike, besides being smooth, can you tell me exactly what your Revelation Locator Rod can do? What did you design it to do, and what does it actually do?

Can I pass Carl's trumped up test? I woudn't bet on it. Would I take his test? Yes if he paid me enough for my time but my rates are going to be steeper that one certain LRL manufacturer. Can I find gold with my LRL better than random chance? Yes, by a long ways. Can I do so every time without fail as in 100%? Probably not, but I did hit 100% in my test area over the course of one week. What does all this prove? Nothing. Would I go treasure hunting or even metal detecting without an LRL? No way.

Mike, if you were trying to demonstrate your Revelation Locator Rod to a potential customer, how would you do it? I would assume that you would use a method that demonstrates some reasonable level of success, so can you describe a simple test scenario for your device that you feel you can succeed with, say, 70% of the time?

[g-sani]

Hi to everybody,
Do you sceptics know that human ears in order to hear or receive signals or sounds they have to transmit as well?
In other words, do you know that human ears work on a feedback system?
I believe that you don't.
Lets suppose that this one holds truth, then could one say that a human being comes equiped whith a very sophisticated LRL as a gift from God since the time of his birth?
Could this in turn be a tiny proof that a human being could also train himself to tune to gold so that he will be able to generate resonance?
Well this is what happens and this is dowsing but you have to watch out, because you mustn't be a sceptic to get it in practise.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi to everybody,
Do you sceptics know that human ears in order to hear or receive signals or sounds they have to transmit as well?

Yes ... but this transmission goes on deep within the inner workings of the ear.

In other words, do you know that human ears work on a feedback system?
I believe that you don't.

You are twisting the facts to suit your agenda.

Lets suppose that this one holds truth, then could one say that a human being comes equiped whith a very sophisticated LRL as a gift from God since the time of his birth?

Actually, this is a result of evolution, and has nothing to do with any deity. But we are not here to debate religious issues, so please stick with scientific facts.

Could this in turn be a tiny proof that a human being could also train himself to tune to gold so that he will be able to generate resonance?

No chance.

Well this is what happens and this is dowsing but you have to watch out, because you mustn't be a sceptic to get it in practise.

I think you are grasping at straws.

[J_Player]

Hi to everybody,
Do you sceptics know that human ears in order to hear or receive signals or sounds they have to transmit as well?
In other words, do you know that human ears work on a feedback system?
I believe that you don't.
Lets suppose that this one holds truth, then could one say that a human being comes equiped whith a very sophisticated LRL as a gift from God since the time of his birth?
Could this in turn be a tiny proof that a human being could also train himself to tune to gold so that he will be able to generate resonance?
Well this is what happens and this is dowsing but you have to watch out, because you mustn't be a sceptic to get it in practise.

Hi G-sani,
I am a believer that your ears must send some tiny signal in order to hear, and they use feedback to work.
I know this proves something, but I am not sure what it proves exactly.

I am not asking for proof that the ear can hear gold.
I only ask to see somebody show their LRL or dowsing to find gold more than 50% of the time when strangers are watching.
So far I have seen no LRL find any gold at any time.

Of course I am an LRL believer...
but I believe LRL works only for times when strangers are not permitted to watch the recoveries.
I only ask to see a demonstration of LRL or dowsing successful to make recoveries 50% of the time when strangers area permitted to watch.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

At Greece a proverb says "what you got my John, what I have ever had"

or "always the same....."

Regards

[Astrodetect]

Hi Mike,
I can think of a test that you can't do which does prove something.

I believe you can't pass a test to find items other people hide in a field you have never seen before even 50% of the time. I am talking about a grassy field 200 feet square where strangers who you never met before bury an object such as a coin or a ring 1 inch deep. 50% is no where near 100%, but it should be enough to demonstrate that you have some success with your LRL. Of course you would find good success if nobody else was watching, but I bet you can't get 50% or better if other people who you don't know are watching. I think you cannot do it because we never saw any real evidence you can do it even one time -- only a bunch of talk.

On the other hand, I think a metal detector can locate the hidden coin or ring every time. I have watched this happen for total strangers many times with different metal detectors.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi JPlayer
You still put the question on the wrong basis, dont forget that the object that the strangers will bury must be LONG TIME buried or else the LRL cannot work.
Regards

[WM6]

Hi JPlayer

LONG TIME buried or else the LRL cannot work.

How do you know this? From mineoro fraudulance excuse tale story?

How many LONG TIME buried treasure did you (or anyone else) found by LRL?

Where are those "fact" evidenced, published? For now we have evidenced and published only a lot of proven findings done with regular metal detector, and not one alone found by LRL.

Except in promo tale stories given from LRL scam producer, reseller and promotor like mineoro, rangertell, dr. Hung, Mike_Mont, OKM etc.