OBMD-1

[Geo]

This is why I am saying that they are rumors around and nothing else.

You know very well that I never speak to air.

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P.
You are absolute with certain things, but it is not always so.
Did you ever think, if these people are some people of the Cryfton company, so there will never say publicly that this detector has a problem;;;;
One Case!!!!

Regards

Yes Geo,
I did think there might be people at the Crypton company who will not make all their internal testing public.
I think this is true for most companies.
I think most companies release only the test results which they approve for public release.

But still, whether a rumor is true or not, it remains a rumor until it can be verified to be accurate.
And you already told us it cannot be verified because you cannot say more about this rumor.

But we see a much different story for the French Mineoro dealer....
We see the story that Morgan told was not a rumor because he showed us the written statement that was made by the company worker...
We do not see only some rumor stories that Morgan told.
If you want people to believe the rumor you post here, then why don't you post a written statement from these workers as Morgan did?

Do you understand the difference between a rumor and a verifiable historical event?
Already you are trying to decide what to believe before we even see what treasure hunters are reporting.
The only actual report of using the Crypton I can see was made by g-sani.
He said he likes it, and he showed a demonstration of him using it.
I wait to see more reports from actual users so I can make an informed opinion of how I think it works.
I do not believe rumors which cannot be checked to determine if they are accurate or not.
I ignore rumors until I see evidence they are true.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.

You ignores rumors, But I must tell what I know

Regards

[g-sani]

Yes Geo,
I did think there might be people at the Crypton company who will not make all their internal testing public.
I think this is true for most companies.
I think most companies release only the test results which they approve for public release.

But still, whether a rumor is true or not, it remains a rumor until it can be verified to be accurate.
And you already told us it cannot be verified because you cannot say more about this rumor.

But we see a much different story for the French Mineoro dealer....
We see the story that Morgan told was not a rumor because he showed us the written statement that was made by the company worker...
We do not see only some rumor stories that Morgan told.
If you want people to believe the rumor you post here, then why don't you post a written statement from these workers as Morgan did?

Do you understand the difference between a rumor and a verifiable historical event?
Already you are trying to decide what to believe before we even see what treasure hunters are reporting.
The only actual report of using the Crypton I can see was made by g-sani.
He said he likes it, and he showed a demonstration of him using it.
I wait to see more reports from actual users so I can make an informed opinion of how I think it works.
I do not believe rumors which cannot be checked to determine if they are accurate or not.
I ignore rumors until I see evidence they are true.


Best wishes,
J_P

I will tell you another story J_P to understand the situation.
Andreas a couple of months ago offered to the Greek forum to give them a detector to test it.He asked them to choose their representitives and give them the detector for 1 or 2 weeks and when they like.Anyway this didn't finally go as they were planing and for some reason something else happened instead.
Andreas took his LRL and went there and visited them but this was in a different box than the one which is used for Crypton today.
They took him up to the mountains to test it in a place he didn't know before and they asked him to demonstrated it there.
So Andreas did his search and he ended up whith 5-6 spots of about 1 sq.meter each.
Then they used the MD they had and they confirmed 4 of the targets.They unearthed them and I remember that it was 2 coins and also something else.Also it was a target they didn't dig and one or two not possible to corfirm whith their MD. Anyway I am not very accurate whith these numbers but this is not my point anyway.
So after that they agreed that the LRL was successfull detecting from distance and after some days they started complain that in the place they took him was many coins around.
How can you say a thing like that when it was left to you to choose the place and how can you accuse him that Crypton is something else from the one he demonstrated to you that day? Do you know what was in that box that time or you know what is inside Crypton now? Cuessing is far away from truth and in this situation means nothing.
Andreas offered them the LRL to test it for a week or so and these people instead of saying "thank you" complained that this period was not enough so they didn't do it.
Instead of doing what was right for themselves by keeping a low polite profile taking the oportunity for the test they prefered to accuse him calling him names showing a very bad attitude. You didn't like his detector? He is there to tell him and let him know what you think otherwise he wouldn't offer you testing it.
We are here to make friends and talk all things out. Isn't it?
We must do our hobby as everything in life trying to learn and become better. But yes, I believe that we are here also to learn and not just have a nice time.
They are people treasure hunting just for glory and they want through this to verify themselves compared to the others. The truth is I don't really like them.
I am doing it for my own pleasure but I wouldn't mind if I get the results as well.
That is all.

All the best
g-sani

[Geo]

I will tell you another story J_P to understand the situation.
Andreas a couple of months ago offered to the Greek forum to give them a detector to test it.He asked them to choose their representitives and give them the detector for 1 or 2 weeks and when they like.Anyway this didn't finally go as they were planing and for some reason something else happened instead.
Andreas took his LRL and went there and visited them but this was in a different box than the one which is used for Crypton today.
They took him up to the mountains to test it in a place he didn't know before and they asked him to demonstrated it there.
So Andreas did his search and he ended up whith 5-6 spots of about 1 sq.meter each.
Then they used the MD they had and they confirmed 4 of the targets.They unearthed them and I remember that it was 2 coins and also something else.Also it was a target they didn't dig and one or two not possible to corfirm whith their MD. Anyway I am not very accurate whith these numbers but this is not my point anyway.
So after that they agreed that the LRL was successfull detecting from distance and after some days they started complain that in the place they took him was many coins around.
How can you say a thing like that when it was left to you to choose the place and how can you accuse him that Crypton is something else from the one he demonstrated to you that day? Do you know what was in that box that time or you know what is inside Crypton now? Cuessing is far away from truth and in this situation means nothing.
Andreas offered them the LRL to test it for a week or so and these people instead of saying "thank you" complained that this period was not enough so they didn't do it.
Instead of doing what was right for themselves by keeping a low polite profile taking the oportunity for the test they prefered to accuse him calling him names showing a very bad attitude. You didn't like his detector? He is there to tell him and let him know what you think otherwise he wouldn't offer you testing it.
We are here to make friends and talk all things out. Isn't it?
We must do our hobby as everything in life trying to learn and become better. But yes, I believe that we are here also to learn and not just have a nice time.
They are people treasure hunting just for glory and they want through this to verify themselves compared to the others. The truth is I don't really like them.
I am doing it for my own pleasure but I wouldn't mind if I get the results as well.
That is all.

All the best
g-sani

Αυτο που κολαει παλι????
Μην με αναγκαζεις να πω ονοματα, η δοκιμη εγινε στην περιοχη μου σε αρχαιολογικο χωρο και δεν εκανε Κιχ. Ο ενας της παρεας ηταν αυτος που το διαφημιζε τοσο πολυ.
Μηπως σου λεει τιποτα?????

Regards

[Rubin]

Dear Geo thank you for your answer. I have OBMD-1 and i live near your city. My opinion is excelent machine for "lock" a no-ferrus interest target long distance.
You say ...you are present tests. I think you are not, because, i am present test near your city and i see users don't calibrate fine machine, but calibrate with high power. Users try find only gold. But the gold usually is "dream". After this the same machine make new test other city with success and maybe record a video (i am not sure). Only your fantasia you are present.
This is incurious for me. But is not incurious for me, the effort to decrease something that you don't have. The conclusions are explicit
Have you a "interest" area for test? If yes , maybe a user crypton can record a video your "interest" area. I want see video with succes and your rédicule face.
I think you can not find this area, i think you have not this area, because, with a video all members world can see success, with your face.
A!!!!!! I don't forget something . If you are anger or members understand all your negative efforts, you write Greek language. Why?
regards

[J_Player]

I will tell you another story J_P to understand the situation.
Andreas a couple of months ago offered to the Greek forum to give them a detector to test it.He asked them to choose their representitives and give them the detector for 1 or 2 weeks and when they like.Anyway this didn't finally go as they were planing and for some reason something else happened instead.
Andreas took his LRL and went there and visited them but this was in a different box than the one which is used for Crypton today.
They took him up to the mountains to test it in a place he didn't know before and they asked him to demonstrated it there.
So Andreas did his search and he ended up whith 5-6 spots of about 1 sq.meter each.
Then they used the MD they had and they confirmed 4 of the targets.They unearthed them and I remember that it was 2 coins and also something else.Also it was a target they didn't dig and one or two not possible to corfirm whith their MD. Anyway I am not very accurate whith these numbers but this is not my point anyway.
So after that they agreed that the LRL was successfull detecting from distance and after some days they started complain that in the place they took him was many coins around.
How can you say a thing like that when it was left to you to choose the place and how can you accuse him that Crypton is something else from the one he demonstrated to you that day? Do you know what was in that box that time or you know what is inside Crypton now? Cuessing is far away from truth and in this situation means nothing.
Andreas offered them the LRL to test it for a week or so and these people instead of saying "thank you" complained that this period was not enough so they didn't do it.
Instead of doing what was right for themselves by keeping a low polite profile taking the oportunity for the test they prefered to accuse him calling him names showing a very bad attitude. You didn't like his detector? He is there to tell him and let him know what you think otherwise he wouldn't offer you testing it.
We are here to make friends and talk all things out. Isn't it?
We must do our hobby as everything in life trying to learn and become better. But yes, I believe that we are here also to learn and not just have a nice time.
They are people treasure hunting just for glory and they want through this to verify themselves compared to the others. The truth is I don't really like them.
I am doing it for my own pleasure but I wouldn't mind if I get the results as well.
That is all.

All the best
g-sani

Hi g-sani,

For me, I will be happy if somebody brings me a detector to test.
I will do like you did to see if it helps me to find treasures.
Maybe for me I will make my own tests too.
But I will not say the locator is successful for long range locating, and then complain
that test is no good because the ground I choose for making the test is not a good test location.

Anyway, I don't care about secret rumors from workers who do not make statements, and talk that nobody verify to be facts.
But I see there is the test that happened in the Greek forum.
And also I see Rubin makes his report for the Crypton.
Now I have two reports from people who have actually used the Crypton to tell us they like the performance they see.
And we hear Geo tell that the Crypton does not detect gold, silver or copper, but he did not use the Crypton.
Maybe Geo can tell us how we can verify his claim that the Crypton detects magnetic fields anomalies.
Maybe if Geo uses the Crypton in his hands then he will have a chance to make a report to tell what he sees the Crypton detect or does not detect.

So I wait to hear more reports before I make my opinion for the Crypton.
For now I am happy that some people like the Crypton.
This means maybe there is a chance it will be good for treasure hunters.
We can see more reports after the Crypton is used for more time in the field.


Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Dear Geo thank you for your answer. I have OBMD-1 and i live near your city. My opinion is excelent machine for "lock" a no-ferrus interest target long distance.
You say ...you are present tests. I think you are not, because, i am present test near your city and i see users don't calibrate fine machine, but calibrate with high power. Users try find only gold. But the gold usually is "dream". After this the same machine make new test other city with success and maybe record a video (i am not sure). Only your fantasia you are present.
This is incurious for me. But is not incurious for me, the effort to decrease something that you don't have. The conclusions are explicit
Have you a "interest" area for test? If yes , maybe a user crypton can record a video your "interest" area. I want see video with succes and your rédicule face.
I think you can not find this area, i think you have not this area, because, with a video all members world can see success, with your face.
A!!!!!! I don't forget something . If you are anger or members understand all your negative efforts, you write Greek language. Why?
regards

Hi Rubin,
If you ever decide to make a demonstration video, then I will be interested to see your video.
And if you do not make a video, I still will like to hear your report for how the UBMD-1 works.
Can you say if it detects only gold and silver and copper?
Did you see the ONMD-1 detect iron or other metals?

I am interested to know how this locator performs.


Best wishes,
J_P

[g-sani]

Hi Rubin,
If you ever decide to make a demonstration video, then I will be interested to see your video.
And if you do not make a video, I still will like to hear your report for how the UBMD-1 works.
Can you say if it detects only gold and silver and copper?
Did you see the ONMD-1 detect iron or other metals?

I am interested to know how this locator performs.


Best wishes,
J_P

Well as long as you have a very sensitive detector in your hands I believe that in case of the absence of the three precious metals you might also see that you are geting something similar or close to them. I think this is understandable when you have the fine sensitivity button in your fingers.
I cannot tell you if there was some silver or copper in that old bullet but I can tell you for sure that there was a lot more copper in that goats bell.That was big as a find but may be not that old.
I threw away the bullet but I still got the bell.

Regards
g-sani

[g-sani]

Αυτο που κολαει παλι????
Μην με αναγκαζεις να πω ονοματα, η δοκιμη εγινε στην περιοχη μου σε αρχαιολογικο χωρο και δεν εκανε Κιχ. Ο ενας της παρεας ηταν αυτος που το διαφημιζε τοσο πολυ.
Μηπως σου λεει τιποτα?????

Regards

Oxι δεν ξερω τιποτε σχετικο. Δεν μπορω να πω πραγματα που δεν ξερω.
Ειμαι διαθεσιμος ομως να τα ακουσω. Δεν βλεπω το λογο καποιος να εχει αποψη και να μην παιρνει θεση. Με παραξενευει το γεγονος οτι δεν μου το ειπες αυτο οταν σου ειπα οτι τεσταρω το Κρυπτον.

I must translate this for everybody, it will be better.
Sorry I don't know anything about what you are talking. I cannot confirm things that I don't really know. But I am willing to listen.
I don't see a reason for somebody to have an experience whith Crypton and having a problem talking for it.
I am now also curious George for that time you called me and you said nothing to me related to this matter when myself reported to you that I am having Crypton testing it.
Was it something for me to hide from you? No it wasn't and I am not that complicated in my acts.
I told you whithout you asking me that I am having Crypton for test e.tc., e.t.c.... and you asked my opinion for it but you never told me what you knew.
Now you come over here saying that you knew this and that.
No, this is not good.
Sorry but I feel betrayed in some way.

[Geo]

Dear Geo thank you for your answer. I have OBMD-1 and i live near your city. My opinion is excelent machine for "lock" a no-ferrus interest target long distance.
You say ...you are present tests. I think you are not, because, i am present test near your city and i see users don't calibrate fine machine, but calibrate with high power. Users try find only gold. But the gold usually is "dream". After this the same machine make new test other city with success and maybe record a video (i am not sure). Only your fantasia you are present.
This is incurious for me. But is not incurious for me, the effort to decrease something that you don't have. The conclusions are explicit
Have you a "interest" area for test? If yes , maybe a user crypton can record a video your "interest" area. I want see video with succes and your rédicule face.
I think you can not find this area, i think you have not this area, because, with a video all members world can see success, with your face.
A!!!!!! I don't forget something . If you are anger or members understand all your negative efforts, you write Greek language. Why?
regards

Where i said it?????
I never took this machine at my hands....
Read again......

[Geo]

Dear Geo thank you for your answer. I have OBMD-1 and i live near your city. My opinion is excelent machine for "lock" a no-ferrus interest target long distance.
You say ...you are present tests. I think you are not, because, i am present test near your city and i see users don't calibrate fine machine, but calibrate with high power. Users try find only gold. But the gold usually is "dream". After this the same machine make new test other city with success and maybe record a video (i am not sure). Only your fantasia you are present.
This is incurious for me. But is not incurious for me, the effort to decrease something that you don't have. The conclusions are explicit
Have you a "interest" area for test? If yes , maybe a user crypton can record a video your "interest" area. I want see video with succes and your rédicule face.
I think you can not find this area, i think you have not this area, because, with a video all members world can see success, with your face.
A!!!!!! I don't forget something . If you are anger or members understand all your negative efforts, you write Greek language. Why?
regards

I have not any anger, sometimes i write to Greek because i don't like to make again checks with translator. You see my English is not so good as your.

[Geo]

Hahahahahahaha.
When Esteban wrote about the Andy Flid magnetic field detector, he hear so many .......
Now you made the Andy Flid (MFD) the best detector. Yes, it is the Andy Flid magnetic field detector with a two transistors antenna preamplifier and a IR that makes nothing.
But you can say and promote everything you want.
I wait Max, so to give him the schematic with the IR so to study it and to tell us how it works.......

I forecast a hot winter
Regards

[Geo]

Oxι δεν ξερω τιποτε σχετικο. Δεν μπορω να πω πραγματα που δεν ξερω.
Ειμαι διαθεσιμος ομως να τα ακουσω. Δεν βλεπω το λογο καποιος να εχει αποψη και να μην παιρνει θεση. Με παραξενευει το γεγονος οτι δεν μου το ειπες αυτο οταν σου ειπα οτι τεσταρω το Κρυπτον.

I must translate this for everybody, it will be better.
Sorry I don't know anything about what you are talking. I cannot confirm things that I don't really know. But I am willing to listen.
I don't see a reason for somebody to have an experience whith Crypton and having a problem talking for it.
I am now also curious George for that time you called me and you said nothing to me related to this matter when myself reported to you that I am having Crypton testing it.
Was it something for me to hide from you? No it wasn't and I am not that complicated in my acts.
I told you whithout you asking me that I am having Crypton for test e.tc., e.t.c.... and you asked my opinion for it but you never told me what you knew.
Now you come over here saying that you knew this and that.
No, this is not good.
Sorry but I feel betrayed in some way.

I will call today.

Regards

[Rubin]

Hi Rubin,
If you ever decide to make a demonstration video, then I will be interested to see your video.
And if you do not make a video, I still will like to hear your report for how the UBMD-1 works.
Can you say if it detects only gold and silver and copper?
Did you see the ONMD-1 detect iron or other metals?

I am interested to know how this locator performs.


Best wishes,
J_P

I use OBMD-1 two Months.
I make many-many personally tutorials tests before i am sure start search a target-area.
Usually i work with my MD together.
I explain you. First i find and lock target a place 1X1meter , then i use MD for find central point.
I find many-many copper coins, a silver baby ring and two interest objects ( very low cost).
For other metals ,i don't know. Maybe my hunting-area have not other metals.
Some tests by me with iron, i see my machine cannot detect iron, cannot detect a magnet-piece, but can detect TV up 5meters distance.
Sorry but i cannot publish photo's. I think you understand me.
Max detection by me distance 25meters. Max depth 25cm. I work only a big flat place without trees.
I cannot rec a video, because i have not camera for this
regards