OBMD-1

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.


Best wishes,
J_P

I told you who is the circuit, very simple you don't believe me.
I know at least other 4 people who tried the Cryfton. Do you know more????

Regards

[J_Player]

I told you who is the circuit, very simple you don't believe me.
I know at least other 4 people who tried the Cryfton. Do you know more????

Regards

Hi geo,

You did not show the circuit that is inside the Crypton.
You only showed an empty PCB image that Andreas posted, and you made your own guesses of what components are inside the OBMD-1.
I can see no place where you show that you know these are the components that we can find when we look inside the OBMD-1.
I also see you did not show any evidence that you know what other PCBs and other components we will see if we look inside the OBMD-1.
I see components that you posted are only your guesses of what you think, but you really do not know what we will see inside the OBMD-1.

Can you tell us exactly what these 4 other alleged people people say about the Crypton they tried?
Or is this another secret rumor of 4 reports that we will never read in the long range locators forum?

Still you cannot answer my question:
I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?
Do you really believe 1 is correct and 2 is a lie?



Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi geo,

You did not show the circuit that is inside the Crypton.
You only showed an empty PCB image that Andreas posted, and you made your own guesses of what components are inside the OBMD-1.
I can see no place where you show that you know these are the components that we can find when we look inside the OBMD-1.
I also see you did not show any evidence that you know what other PCBs and other components we will see if we look inside the OBMD-1.
I see components that you posted are only your guesses of what you think, but you really do not know what we will see inside the OBMD-1.

Can you tell us exactly what these 4 other alleged people people say about the Crypton they tried?
Or is this another secret rumor of 4 reports that we will never read in the long range locators forum?
Do you think that all the people knows English and they read the LongRangeLocators???


Still you cannot answer my question:
I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?
Do you really believe 1 is correct and 2 is a lie?



Best wishes,
J_P

Your question is a bad game and please not play with me.
If you really want an answer, then make the questions alone, no at groups.
Be sure i have the answer(s).


Regards

[J_Player]

Your question is a bad game and please not play with me.
If you really want an answer, then make the questions alone, no at groups.
Be sure i have the answer(s).


Regards

Hi Geo,
This is a public forum where all the world can read.
It is not a private conversation.
You have been posting rumors that you refuse to prove they are correct or not here in an international forum.
Now you say you can talk about what you believe only in private?

What is your purpose for spreading rumors in a public forum that you cannot prove?
Why do you say "Crypton is a magnet field detector, so it detects only the magnetic anomalies" in a public forum if you refuse to talk about your proof in the same public forum?

Isn't this what a rumor is?

Do you remember the rules of this forum?
Be factual, and try not to take differences of opinions personally. If you make an extraordinary claim, be prepared to have that claim challenged.

You do not give facts.... you give guesses of components.
I like to see you prove your claims are true.
I see only your words talking what parts you guess are inside of OBMD-1, then make conclusion that it detects only magnetic field anomalies.
I think this is an extraordinary claim.
I think you cannot show any evidence that the OBMD-1 detects only magnetic field anomalies.
If I am wrong, then show the evidence of the OBMD-1 detecting only magnetic field anomalies.
I have never seen the OBMD-1 detect a magnetic field anomaly.
Have you?

I think you believe that answer 1 is correct -- that g-sani did not lie and you have the wrong guess for magnetic field detector.
But I think this only because I see you can present no evidence to show that it locates magnetic fields.
Maybe my idea is wrong.
Maybe you can prove the OBMD-1 makes beeps when a magnet or iron is placed near it.
Can you?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.
Why you have your eyes closed???
You wrote """The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,""... The photo of pcb that Andreas posted show and the components, so ti is not an empty circuit. I have the pcb, i have the component layer, i have the schematic so what other i need?????
If i will give you the schematic, AGAIN you will tell that you are not sure if it is this and again that it is a rumor .
Also why you don't believe what Andreas posted and said??? He posted the pcb of Crypton and he said that THIS is the pcb, what other would you like????? I wrote if you like to give you the link of the Greek forum where a member writes that this lrl don't work but you did not answered about this.
If you do not know something, do not write to create sensationalism

Regards

[goldmaniac]

geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?

[Qiaozhi]

geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?

This is an English language forum. Please post in English, or at least post a translation.

[Geo]

This is an English language forum. Please post in English, or at least post a translation.

Goldmaniac (the administrator of the Greek forum psaxtiria.net) don't know English so i will try at night to translate it. Now i have not time.

Regards

[Morgan]

Goldmaniac (the administrator of the Greek forum psaxtiria.net) don't know English so i will try at night to translate it. Now i have not time.

Regards

Hello Geo, here is my translation (google transtator)


geo begins translation
I do not know rubin State but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps echi barrel is a side advertising defected machinery and PD and now CRYPTON
When he started with a friend of my say about the pistol trusted, and I fell into the nets of deception, after a while, and if they did not answer the phones, I wrote in the GREEK Forum delete it from State threatened physically because
another a tale from their usual
And I have questions after not sell the man that found them in their hands because when formally requested by the test GREEK forum the machine did not accept
I have simple FAQ about the whole thing still playing here in the forums
As for the circuit referred George 90% is right and leaves open a 10% in case of error
And the question in all technical here is how we can make vlf emission frequencies and infrared reception; When the download is local or you need a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the dendra.oi shrubs;

[Geo]

Hello Geo, here is my translation (google transtator)


geo begins translation
I do not know rubin State but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps echi barrel is a side advertising defected machinery and PD and now CRYPTON
When he started with a friend of my say about the pistol trusted, and I fell into the nets of deception, after a while, and if they did not answer the phones, I wrote in the GREEK Forum delete it from State threatened physically because
another a tale from their usual
And I have questions after not sell the man that found them in their hands because when formally requested by the test GREEK forum the machine did not accept
I have simple FAQ about the whole thing still playing here in the forums
As for the circuit referred George 90% is right and leaves open a 10% in case of error
And the question in all technical here is how we can make vlf emission frequencies and infrared reception; When the download is local or you need a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the dendra.oi shrubs;

Very good, i will try to make it a little better

[Qiaozhi]

Very good, i will try to make it a little better

Thanks Geo.
I still find it hard to understand Morgan's translation.

[Geo]

geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?

Here is the translation by me...... i want to believe that it is right.
One note by me.... both members Goldmaniac and Gsani are friends of me, so i don't make any comment.

Regards

""""""Geo begins translation
I do not know the member rubin, but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps he has done is the side advertising of lrls , of PD and now of the CRYPTON.
When he started with a friend of me to says for the PD, i trusted them, and I fell into nets of deception, after a while, and when he stoped to answer the phones, he wrote in the GREEK Forum to delete him from member because he threatened physically.
Another fairy tales from their usual.
I wonder since Andreas do not sell the crypton, how it found in their hands and when I asked for a formal testing of the machine from the GREEK forum, Andreas did not accept.
I have simple questions about the whole thing who still playing here in this forum.
As for the circuit referred George (Geo)90% is right and i leave open a 10% in case of error.
And the question in all technical here is... how we can make emission at vlf frequencies and infrared reception if the signal is local????, or needs a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the trees, the shrubs ..etc""""""

[g-sani]

Listen goldmanic, you say things the way you like and I don't really want to conflict whith you because I see it as a waste of time.If you want to defend your friend Geo just do it as a gentleman because this time you show your bad attitude in an international forum.
Apart from this and because you use my name and you talk about things you are dreaming I have to ask you to put here the proof that I have asked you in the past to whithdraw my membership from your forum. Why somebody will ask you for that when he can always just stop participating in the forum?
There is no need for that so don't show your stupidity everywhere. I just said I am giving up as an active member because I don't like any more the way things go.
Also I never said I was threatened from anybody but I said that I got fed up from all this talking and gossips behind other peoples back because this is not my practice.
I prefer people talking straight and every member should be equally the same from an Administrator no matter what.
When it comes to the PD that Vasilis made I just said that I know him because he comes from the place I live and I talked about my experience whith his PD when this guy came over to see me and demonstrated it to me. I didn't say that I tested it myself although I did it sometime later on.
It was you goldmaniac that called begging me to tell a word to Vasilis about your willingness to sell his PD through your forum. Did you know me in person? Did we ever meet and I don't remember?
So what is this you are saying that I was not answering your calls? May be you were calling others that they didn't want to talk you(I don't blame them) and you are throwing this here as well.
Have you been drinking ouzo myfriend?
I believe that it is very obvious for everybody to understand why you called me but since you started I have to defend myself by also prooving what I am saying.
You cannot proove that I have ever been to any kind of advesrtising Vasilis PD and you cannot proove that I have never been together whith Vasilis to any of his demonstrations to your friends(you know they are so many) which they liked and bought the PD on the spot at the same time each demo took place.
So are you feeling bad because your friends bought from Vasilis or you are feeling bad because your friends money went to Vasilis pocket instead of yours?
Vasilis was the only man that demonstrated his LRL every time somebody asked for it just before buying. So you have to wash your mouth very well every time you spell his name to other people.
Here comes the proof to your story my friend and it is still there for all members to see if they are lucky before you delete them.
So I remember yourself goldmaniac selling LRLs through your site which you were selling complete or as a kit. You want proofs for that? I am putting the links bellow for everybody to see.
1. http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3541
It is a thread opened from you selling PD kits at a better price.
Here you say that 4000 euros for Vasilis Pd is so much so please get mine as a kit at
250 which in other words means... "I sell just for a smaller profit"
2. http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3615
This is another thread opened from you selling some other LRL in two available
options.As a complete made machine and also as a kit. You state the price
of 350+50for batteries for a ready to go LRL detector and 250+50 for a kit.
Need more? Anybody can find more if he just check your posts in the Greek forum.
I think that this is enough evidence for everybody to understand which one is doing what, you or me.
I have never criticised yourself and you surprised me while you are advertising me this way in this forum.
There is also something else that just came into my mind.
If this is the case whith me then why you didn't say all these compliments for me in the Greek forum and when things were also fresh that time?
I tell you why myself because I know you are a bit of a shy person to answer yourself my question.
All members of the Greek forum would throw stones to you this is why.You came here that people don't know what was happening in your shop-forum thinking that because they cannot go and read greek in the Greek forum then they would believe your stories and your lousy lies. Is it this video you saw in my thread "Testing Crypton" that remind you of Andrea and you sudenly felt the same way you felt whith Vasilis when he sold many PDs whithout you involved in his bussiness?
But why now and here when you are not even able to read English properly?
Is it somebody translating you everyday all our posts?
Computer translators are not good anyway.
Did anybody gave you an operational manual or advice of what to do and write?
Was it a bad dream you saw last night?
May be your sales are not that good whith all this Greek crisis and you thought that it is right for you to come over here disadvertising other peoples bussiness and may be you will have some customers back to you whith your better prices.
You also forget my friend that when it comes to Crypton it is a company behind giving guarantees and receipts when you are a 'nobody' and a tax free salesman using your forum as a shop.
I don't know how many Cryptons is arround but mine I stated clearly that it was one offered to me for tests when you and your companions didn't accept the offer made to you of Mr Andreas the designer of the detector.
Did you forget when you refused the offer because a week or so it was not enough for you to test it? Did you forget that your friend was there when Andreas twice or may be three times out of 4-5 found artifacts or coins in a place that your friends chosen?
Hhhhhmmmm.... now I see. You only remember what you like but I am here to refresh your memory in a practical proof safe manner.
As you see my friend the silly behaviour of yours and from some others is the ones I can easily uncover and present them over here whith facts and proofs for everybody to see when you cannot proove anything of what you are saying for me.
There are so many posts from you and your friends in your forum accusing many other members saying that they are taking money to advertise some detectors from others but you are always doing this whithout showing any facts or proofs the same way you are doing now. Is this your sale policy?
I can easily ask many members of the Greek forum to come over here and proove what I am saying and again you will be rediculous yourself.But it is no need because they are also many of them here knowing exactly what happened now and then.

Rumors and myths are creations from people that don't know how to explain what they see or rather they make this because this way suits them for one reason or another.
Jealously whith money involved is one of the worst compinations for the days we live.


Go back to your shop-forum goldmaniac and translate to them my post for everybody to see.Yours is in Greek anyway.
I am sure everybody will love it apart from your friends.
Merry Christmas

[goldmaniac]

I see you hurt the kit never came out in production, since this turned out not working
Maybe we what we are honest from something else that is professional and sell fraud

βλεπω σας πονεσε το κιτ που ποτε δεν βγηκε στην παραγωγη,αφου και αυτο αποδειχθηκε οτι δεν δουλευε
ισως εμεις ειμεθα ποιο τιμιοι απο κατι αλλους που ειναι επαγγελματιες και πουλανε απατη

[g-sani]

I see you hurt the kit never came out in production, since this turned out not working
Maybe we what we are honest from something else that is professional and sell fraud

βλεπω σας πονεσε το κιτ που ποτε δεν βγηκε στην παραγωγη,αφου και αυτο αποδειχθηκε οτι δεν δουλευε
ισως εμεις ειμεθα ποιο τιμιοι απο κατι αλλους που ειναι επαγγελματιες και πουλανε απατη

Production???? Thank you very much!
You prove again what I said in my last post.
So don't keep on saying that others think the way you think.
No more excuses.