For all you stupid skeptics (or liars)

[J_Player]

... I won't repeat the title of this thread. It's beyond that. I think there is a sinister motive here.

Exactly right...
It's beyond that.
You cannot delete what you typed like you do on other forums.

We can all read your words. It's easy to see the motive.
You want to accuse Carl-NC of distorting things by claiming you never said the words we can read you typed in the title.
Is this what you are calling sinister?

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=138332&postcount=11

Carl, you are distorting things again...
...And besides, I did not say stupid and liar anyway.



Best wishes,
J_P

[Carl-NC]

Mike, you can argue theory til the cows are blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact that you can't do squat. All you can do is pretend.

[Dedevil]

Don't let them get to you.

MIKE! MIKE! Hold it together brother. Don't let them get to you.
Now you're starting to go off subect and confusing things.
The LM system is a simple transformer!
The problem the LM engineers faced was that in a cave in, the lines usually get cut.
But the steel supports inside the mine stay intack. So they developed a transmission line using the steel supports as a line. The steel supports become the core of a transformer. The trapped miner wraps wire around the steel to induce a magnetic field, this travels along the steel to the surface and another coil converts the magnetic change back to voltage. It's just a transformer. And has nothing to do with ground radio.
Just chill out and don't go way off in trying to convince others.
Regards De devil

[Funfinder]

Another useless but "nice" entertainment thread!

I can't get it, this is sooo ridiculous here!

This is a technical forum! Technical, get it?!

And skeptics have the right to "intervent" if unscientifical claims or fraud be***sing LRLs are praised etc.

It's such a kindergarden, really.

If you claim your LRL is working proof it by scientifical facts and reliable tests or go to an esoterical club and talk about ghosts and other unproofable stuff! And don't play obsure hide and seek games with alot of bla bla bla.

What we need are testable circuits, understandable nature-scientific principles and useful stuff in the end and not the same hogwash here again even 10 years later!


It's like to explain to a little child how a flash-light really works:


If the mother has no idea of electricity she will fail and if the child is too stupid or young to understand the whole stuff it will fail too!!!


The unscientifical argumenting and no testable circuits providing LRL-Pro's are the mothers
and the not able to understand, verify the truth and test this whole stuff are the LRL-Con's!


THIS is the situation here - so change it if you have any electronical competence and sense for realistical understanding the real world!

[WM6]

Excellent explained Funfinder.

[Mike(Mont)]

d'evil,

Yes, I guess you know about it that Lockheed Martin. Why don't you inform them of their ineptitude. Also be sure to tell them you figured this out the last time you were in prison (or was it the third time?), you know, tapping on the bars.

Three nuns were sitting at a baseball game and the guy behind them got upset because their habits were blocking his view. Trying to spoil their day he said "I guess I should move to Montanan there are only 100 nuns there in the whole state." One of the nuns turned around and said (picture Mother Angelica) "Why don't you go to hell? There are NO nuns down there!"

[Dedevil]

They have got to you. And you've lost the plot.

d'evil,

Yes, I guess you know about it that Lockheed Martin. Why don't you inform them of their ineptitude. Also be sure to tell them you figured this out the last time you were in prison (or was it the third time?), you know, tapping on the bars.

Three nuns were sitting at a baseball game and the guy behind them got upset because their habits were blocking his view. Trying to spoil their day he said "I guess I should move to Montanan there are only 100 nuns there in the whole state." One of the nuns turned around and said (picture Mother Angelica) "Why don't you go to hell? There are NO nuns down there!"

It's sad to read that you've lost the plot Mike.
Hope you Get Well Soon
Regards Dedevil

[Max]

d'evil,

Yes, I guess you know about it that Lockheed Martin. Why don't you inform them of their ineptitude. Also be sure to tell them you figured this out the last time you were in prison (or was it the third time?), you know, tapping on the bars.

Three nuns were sitting at a baseball game and the guy behind them got upset because their habits were blocking his view. Trying to spoil their day he said "I guess I should move to Montanan there are only 100 nuns there in the whole state." One of the nuns turned around and said (picture Mother Angelica) "Why don't you go to hell? There are NO nuns down there!"

Lockheed Martin talks about science and electronics not scientifically unsupported BS

that's the plot you lost, or maybe... well... you didn't and probably will never get

[Max]

It's sad to read that you've lost the plot Mike.
Hope you Get Well Soon
Regards Dedevil

the "plot" is that science is made of facts and BS just are made of words and funny videos...

that's the plot here

[Mike(Mont)]

All this talk about tapping on bars makes Alias-I-Am homesick. He tried to plead criminally insane but the court appointed lawyer was not up to task. Anyway, I think you guys should file charges against Lockheed and claim fraud. I'm sure they could use a good laugh.

[J_Player]

All this talk about tapping on bars makes Alias-I-Am homesick. He tried to plead criminally insane but the court appointed lawyer was not up to task. Anyway, I think you guys should file charges against Lockheed and claim fraud. I'm sure they could use a good laugh.

Now this is getting interesting.
The devil himself has come and informed Mike(Mont) that he got it all wrong...
that the Lockheed Martin underground communications system has nothing to do with ground radio.
He explained how it works by wrapping wire around a steel column to build a crude transformer that sends signals which can be picked up by another coil at the surface.
I heard this same talk that it's ordinary science from reading the Lockheed Martin article, from skeptical electronic engineers, and even from the devil himself.

Words from Dedevil:
"It's just a transformer. And has nothing to do with ground radio".

"It's sad to read that you've lost the plot Mike.
Hope you Get Well Soon"

Is Mike(Mont) filtering out the words from his devil friend so he can preserve the dream that the Lockheed Martin works by dowsing and proves his dowsing rods work?




Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

This is strange i understood easily and immediately the Lockheed Martin device based on known science with proven results, but i still have to see any principles, explanation and results of LRL and dowsing claims , after such a long time....

Is this a temporal distortion due to capacitive effects ?

Now this is getting interesting.
The devil himself has come and informed Mike(Mont) that he got it all wrong...
that the Lockheed Martin underground communications system has nothing to do with ground radio.
He explained how it works by wrapping wire around a steel column to build a crude transformer that sends signals which can be picked up by another coil at the surface.
I heard this same talk that it's ordinary science from reading the Lockheed Martin article, from skeptical electronic engineers, and even from the devil himself.

Words from the devil:
"It's just a transformer. And has nothing to do with ground radio".

"It's sad to read that you've lost the plot Mike.
Hope you Get Well Soon"

Is Mike(Mont) filtering out the words from his devil friend so he can preserve the dream that the Lockheed Martin works by dowsing and proves his dowsing rods work?




Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

This is strange i understood easily and immediately the Lockheed Martin device based on known science with proven results, but i still have to see any principles, explanation and results of LRL and dowsing claims , after such a long time....

Is this a temporal distortion due to capacitive effects ?

Ya...
Mike(Mont) could prove it easily if he wanted by simply demonstrating it actually work in front of amazed witnesses like Carl-NC for example.
But he does not do that.
He says he will demonstrate his dowsing/LRL if he is paid $2500 with no guarantees he will be successful at finding things he does not know the location of.

Seems to me if you can't explain how it works, and you can't demonstrate it to work for finding things, then you would have a hard time to convince me to buy it.
But Carl-NC told Mike(Mont) he would buy him a free tasty dinner at a restaurant if he demonstrated his dowsing/LRL fail
I don't think I would do that.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Gwil]

I don't think anyone with experience in the world of electronics would argue that inductance loop communication can't work, as it's been around for decades, mostly in above ground applications but also in subterannean comms. The Lockheed system is just a modern, though significant, development. Where some of us have doubts is when we see statements like "the human body has it's own very sensitive detection system known as the human energy field or what some call the aura" (post #1). Maybe, maybe not. I'm just not aware of any real evidence for its existence. Belief, however sincere, is not the same as proof.

[WM6]

Seems to me if you can't explain how it works, ..

He can, but he has no time for explanations to stupid sceptic liars.