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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rudy View Post
    Is "honest" above a common synonym for "gullible"?
    Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
    Well, if they believe some skeptic who uses deception, has never learned, never experienced, who uses emotional arguments instead of facts, etc., like some magician and his life partner, then maybe they are, but it's really more of just being misinformed. Like I said, people with prestige have the power to manipulate others.
    I guess that means the answer is yes.

    HH Rudy,
    MXT, HeadHunter Wader


    Do or do not. There is no try.
    Yoda

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    • #17
      It's just absurd to try to have any kind of discussion with someone who refuses to learn. I've posted some good links here in the hopes you guys could understand that it is possible, but you have no intentions of even considering the possiblilities. Colin Keay is a real skeptic. I am a skeptic. You guys are pseudo-skeptics, biased beyond belief. Don't you understand that is not intelligent? That is the height of ignorance. I'll try it again, get the book "Supersensonics", read it and do the experiments. That book is absolutely fabulous and has a wealth of information beyond your dreams. I realize it is way over your head but if you learn, it will start to make sense.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
        It's just absurd to try to have any kind of discussion with someone who refuses to learn. I've posted some good links here in the hopes you guys could understand that it is possible, but you have no intentions of even considering the possiblilities. Colin Keay is a real skeptic. I am a skeptic. You guys are pseudo-skeptics, biased beyond belief. Don't you understand that is not intelligent? That is the height of ignorance. I'll try it again, get the book "Supersensonics", read it and do the experiments. That book is absolutely fabulous and has a wealth of information beyond your dreams. I realize it is way over your head but if you learn, it will start to make sense.
        Mike - you are using terms that you do not properly understand. The term "pseudo-skeptic" refers to someone who uses pseudo-scientific arguments to refute theories or beliefs of which they are skeptical. What is it you are skeptical of? As far as I can ascertain from your posts, you are willing to believe some of the most outlandish theories that others would simply laugh at. Where is the skepticism in that? If it is conventional science that you are skeptical of, then your explanations and theories supporting dowsing make you a pseudo-skeptic - not a skeptic. No wonder your posts give the impression of someone who is horribly confused. Forget about the "Supersensonics " book - it is about The Science [sic] of Radiational Paraphysics - which is just another way of saying "Psychical Research". It's complete nonsense.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
          It's just absurd to try to have any kind of discussion with someone who refuses to learn.
          Mike, I've said many many times that I am eager to see you demonstrate any ability to do what you say you can do. I am willing to be proven wrong. You have refused each and every time. What else am I supposed to conclude, except that you are just a talker? All these theories you like to drone on about ain't worth squat if you can't even make a dowsing rod work. And I'm convinced you can't.

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          • #20
            I know some people do not want to spend the time and energy to read the book, that's why I have also suggested you get a frequency generator or a low cost MFD unit like Vernell Electronics sells. I admit these are old technology and there are better units available, but the price is quite a bit more and this way you can see how you like it and get an idea of how to. Of course if you are interested in locating, that book is the best one available. You can spend years working with all the info there.

            One thing I would caution you is to make sure you read every word carefully. It is very easy to skip over important details. You can't read it like a novel and expect to understand the concepts--you have to do the experiments until you understand. Much of the info is hidden between the lines and he doesn't describe things well for someone with poor reading or locating skills. I know I have had trouble with quite a bit of it. His IQ must be off the charts. You gotta be at the top of your game or else it will fly right over your head. The people who think they know it all will miss the most if not all of it.

            I realize most LRL equipment does not have the proper instructions. I think most manufacturers expect the people to already know how to use a locator. As I have said, you need some form of meditation so you can filter the outside influences and develop an awareness of your body's response. These skills require a few weeks of daily practice, maybe more if you learn on your own. The same mistakes people make with meditation will prevent you from using a locator properly. And wishful thinking is probably the biggest obstacle. You have to be like a judge and not lean to your bias. I realize all skeptics expect the LRL to work without any skills from the user. This shows their ignorance.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
              I know some people do not want to spend the time and energy to read the book, that's why I have also suggested you get a frequency generator or a low cost MFD unit like Vernell Electronics sells. I admit these are old technology and there are better units available, but the price is quite a bit more and this way you can see how you like it and get an idea of how to. Of course if you are interested in locating, that book is the best one available. You can spend years working with all the info there.

              One thing I would caution you is to make sure you read every word carefully. It is very easy to skip over important details. You can't read it like a novel and expect to understand the concepts--you have to do the experiments until you understand. Much of the info is hidden between the lines and he doesn't describe things well for someone with poor reading or locating skills. I know I have had trouble with quite a bit of it. His IQ must be off the charts. You gotta be at the top of your game or else it will fly right over your head. The people who think they know it all will miss the most if not all of it.

              I realize most LRL equipment does not have the proper instructions. I think most manufacturers expect the people to already know how to use a locator. As I have said, you need some form of meditation so you can filter the outside influences and develop an awareness of your body's response. These skills require a few weeks of daily practice, maybe more if you learn on your own. The same mistakes people make with meditation will prevent you from using a locator properly. And wishful thinking is probably the biggest obstacle. You have to be like a judge and not lean to your bias. I realize all skeptics expect the LRL to work without any skills from the user. This shows their ignorance.
              Hahahahahaaa
              Why should we spend money for a Vernell MFD locator when we saw what good it did you to use one?
              You can't make a MFD work, or even a dowsing rod work.

              If we do as you tell us to do, then we practice as you have, why should we think this can lead to us locating buried things?
              Will we waste a lot of time and money practicing, but find we are not able to dowse or locate hidden things with the Vernell locator any more than you can?
              Will we become bitter old men who can only make rants and insults against people who ask us to prove we locate hidden treasures?



              Best wishes,
              J_P

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              • #22
                Mike, you're refusing to acknowledge the elephant in the room. You can't do it. You know it, and everyone else knows it.

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                • #23
                  The stench around here is worse than the cross between a skunk and a stink bug who had kids that worked cleaning porta-pottys at a chilli festival.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
                    The stench around here is worse than the cross between a skunk and a stink bug who had kids that worked cleaning porta-pottys at a chilli festival.
                    Hmmm, did you cut the cheese?

                    HH Rudy,
                    MXT, HeadHunter Wader


                    Do or do not. There is no try.
                    Yoda

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