ionic metal detector

[Qiaozhi]

[quote=Sean_Goddard;49104]

Yes. Ionic detection works and the Mineoro detectors do detect the gold ions.
All matter degrades with time and releases ions as they do.

Ions are modified atoms. When the atom loses electrons or gains electrons in this process of electron exchange, it is said to be IONIZED. For ionization to take place, there must be a transfer of energy which results in a change in the internal energy of the atom. Earth acts like this. An atom having more than its normal amount of electrons acquires a negative charge, and is called a NEGATIVE ION. The atom that gives up some of its normal electrons is left with less negative charges than positive charges and is called a POSITIVE ION.




ERM... GOLD DOES NOT DECAY that's why it is found in it's NATURAL state in the ground.. MILLIONS of years old DUH!!. Iron decays (rust) Aluminium decays to become bauxite , Copper, silver, etc, etc. Ah perhaps you are looking for the ADSENCE of gold ions, AH I see it now, another cop out in the genuine explanation, oh well NVM at least I saw through the psuedo scisnce in time. and just HOW do these target substances produce ionised particles anyhow? PLEASE TELL US how these ions are produced, I want the exact process please, becasue I'm having difficulty in working out how it happens.

Go make an ioniser, only a lightning strike NOT the natural CHEMICAL decay of metallic material could produce ions, and as the rain (usually goes with lightning) is supposed to "dampen" 'scuse the pun the ionic field, then this is another inconsistency I think.

I had the "experience" of testing a Mineoro FG80 last week. Random beeping and nothing else. Totally unusable.

[Sean_Goddard]

Hung quoted some links to an Australian company which claimed to have uncovered a method of gold and mineral location by ionisation. The guys are supposed to be Ph.d's. Interesting to note that even these guys can be persuaded to jump on a bandwagon (and I have noticed that Oz companies like ot blow their own trumpets, no offence meant to any antipodean people present) and I doubt if they obtained their Doctorates the same way the REST of us did .

I know at least one guy who works in geological survey for a mineral location company and they use tried and trusted methods which are documented, and freely available to read. By the way, the guy works for RTZ (Rio Tinto Zinc) and if it was new and worked, they could afford it and would be using it!

[gallileo60]

Spoken like a true charlatan.

Radionics, "the Voodoo doll of the modern age."

So for now, what's in my post is all you need to know.
Besides what to expect from someone who does not even know how the electromagnetic fields interact in the case of Radionics?
And now hoping to discuss ionic fields detection from long time buried gold?
Naaahhhh....
Guess you better stick with what you know at this time.



Boy does that sound like a crock of crap...........Who are you to say that is all someone needs to know.....It is for sure BS..Tom

[Steve in MS]

Scientific secrecy? I was under the impression that LRL are nothing more than expensive dowsing rods, if so then they will always be out of mainstream metal detecting. How big does the gold have to be before it is detected with LRL and doesn't it take undefined skills to properly use the equipment? That is can one person get the same results as another on controlled tests? If not, then they are souped up dowsing rods, get some clothes hangers and you will get same results and a lot cheaper . Once again, how big does the gold have to be before it is detected using LRL? And does it penetrate the ground as good as it would do in the air? I have so many questions and not enough time to be convinced and no, I won't spend any of my money trying them out because I don't believe in them and isn't that what it takes is belief, gets back to the fact they are nothing more than expensive dowsing rods. Maybe one of these days I will get into black magic and be able to operate them.
Sorry, I will remain unconvinced, I will leave all that gold for LRL users.

[gallileo60]

It is complete bull****, anyone who belives this is also a beleiver in witchcraft......Lets have a real double blind placebo test...If not what are you scared of???????Tom Shaw............

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Hung quoted some links to an Australian company which claimed to have uncovered a method of gold and mineral location by ionisation. The guys are supposed to be Ph.d's. Interesting to note that even these guys can be persuaded to jump on a bandwagon (and I have noticed that Oz companies like ot blow their own trumpets, no offence meant to any antipodean people present) and I doubt if they obtained their Doctorates the same way the REST of us did .

I know at least one guy who works in geological survey for a mineral location company and they use tried and trusted methods which are documented, and freely available to read. By the way, the guy works for RTZ (Rio Tinto Zinc) and if it was new and worked, they could afford it and would be using it!

I guess you might be right in the first part....remember Gallipoli, talk about persuaded, should have just let you guys to it, ay cob.

Anyways, what is with Ionic Matal Detector, how different from:

http://www.direct.ca/trinity/iondetector.html

Some of you tried them, presumably bought them, did you not look inside? gets done with everything else here doesn`t it.

[J_Player]

I have never seen any LRL for sale demonstrated to find treasure. But the concept of ions in the ground around long-time buried metals is true.

Researchers discovered years ago in Australia there are certain "gold-eating" microbes in the soil that are able to excrete chemicals like cyanide and sulfur complexes that dissolve gold in trace amounts. Other microbes are able to cause these dissolved gold ions to precipitate on existing granules of gold, sometime forming sizable nuggets far away from the source of the original gold. Geologists look for the presence of some of these gold microbes in order to locate likely areas to explore for gold ore.

Later research by the Australian government discovered that deeply buried mineral deposits that have been in the ground a long time will usually have a column of soil extending vertically above the metal that has traces of metal ions. They discovered these trace ions move upward until they reach the surface, where they quickly become bound with other elements in the soil, and are no longer ions. Because they are no longer ions after reaching the surface, the metal ions don't travel beyond the surface, but are located just beneath the surface directly above an ore deposit.

The Australian company MMI Technology has been collecting soil samples at mine sites all over the world for years in order to find areas where there is a mesurable increase in the metal ion concentration. They use chemical methods to measure parts per billion of gold ions in the soil. They are able to locate ore deposits deep in the ground by finding the locations where there are an increase in metal ions at the surface. This is the exact same testing that is done at the Rio Tinto Zinc mine. The ores that can be found using MMI methods includes gold, copper, zinc, iron and many others.

This is not some weird science that nobody knows about. It has been in use to locate ore deposits in mines for years. There are over a million reports on web pages showing results of this research. Many mines pay over $60,000 to run a MMI survey in order to help locate their ore deposits. What these mines do not pay for is $5000 to buy a LRL to locate the ore deposits and ions that form in a column above the metal.

Check these posts for links that show geologist's and chemist's research into the ions around buried metals:

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=13276#post55850

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=13276&page=2#post56059

Best wishes,
J_P