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  • #16
    Originally posted by modaljar View Post

    I just noticed that your site not set yet.
    ever wonder why?

    regards,
    It all makes perfect sense expressed in dollars and cents...

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    • #17
      lrl that really works

      Hi New master
      congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sweatofglory View Post
        Hi New master
        congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!
        Don't hold your breath!

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        • #19
          The Facts About NMR

          A common claim with MFD proponents is that "all elements have a natural frequency" and will either resonate with other like elements, or can be made to resonate with a properly tuned signal generator. MFD proponents often point to the fact that all elements have a property called "nuclear magnetic resonance" and, therefore, the concept of resonance is entirely scientific.
          Yes, it is true that all elements have an NMR frequency. You can go to WebElements and click on an element, then click the NMR link to the left side. For gold, you will find that the NMR frequency is 1.754000MHz, and that this entry includes the statement "relative to 1H = 100 (MHz)". What does this mean?
          It turns out the NMR frequency for any given element is dependent on the static magnetic field the element is exposed to. For gold, the magnetic field that produces an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz is the same field that produces an NMR frequency of 100MHz for hydrogen.
          What is this field? With a little effort, you will find the field strength to be roughly 2.35 Teslas. So for hydrogen, 2.35T yields an NMR frequency of 100MHz. 4.7T will result in an NMR frequency of 200MHz. In other words, the NMR frequency is proportional to the magnetic field.
          What about the Earth's natural magnetic field? This varies from place-to-place, but 50 microTeslas (uT) is a fair average strength. So the magnetic field strength of 2.35T is a whopping 47,000 times stronger than the Earth's field. Working the other way, we can find that the NMR frequency of hydrogen exposed to the Earth's field is a mere 2.13kHz. And guess what? That's exactly the frequency we get from a proton precession magnetometer! Most PPM's use hydrogen-rich water as the precession medium, and it is the hydrogen that is doing the precessing. Variations in the Earth's field due to iron targets change the precession frequency, exactly because the NMR frequency varies with field strength.
          So gold has an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz at 2.35T, which means at 50uT it will have an NMR frequency of only 37 Hz or so. So if any MFD were being true to the NMR property, it would use 37Hz for gold. Not 5kHz. Now, some MFD manufacturers talk about resonating elements at a harmonic (or, sometimes, a "sub-harmonic") frequency. Although 5kHz is roughly the 135th harmonic of 37Hz, it is far, far less efficient to try to resonate something at a harmonic rather than the fundamental. Anyone who has used 3rd overtone crystals is aware of this, and claiming resonance at the 135th harmonic is just plain absurd.
          So now that we know what the real frequency of resonance should be, we can proceed with a gold detector, right? Not so fast. Let's go back to the proton mag. How does a PPM detect the precession frequency of water? Well, typically a small bottle of water is placed INSIDE a fairly hefty coil. The coil serves two purposes. First, water just sitting around has its molecules all randomly oriented, so that even if they were "resonating", there would be no net signal due to an overall cancelation of all the little signals. So the coil is hit with a large transient current, which generates a large magnetic field, which serves to align at least some of the water molecules. Then, with the transient field removed, the coil becomes a receiver to detect the very, very weak precession signal from the water.
          So in order to utilize NMR, we need to "ping" the target to get it to precess, much like hitting a bell with a clapper. Then, we need a way to detect the precession signal, which is incredibly weak. With PPM, both of these are only accomplished when the water is INSIDE the coil. The same is true with hospital MRI machines... the patient is slid INSIDE a humongous coil.
          In the end, the concept of trying to remotely resonate buried targets is just bogus. It is like trying to boil water with a microwave oven, by placing the water 100 meters from the oven, and then running the oven on a 9-volt battery. Ain't gonna happen.
          - Carl

          But for 0,5T = 100Amper current or For 1,5T Need (=) 300 Amper electrical current.

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          • #20
            Safe

            I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Morgan View Post
              Hi

              I´m good in finding water with Lrods,but i´m very bad in finding treasures with Lrods,anyway i saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting.
              There are simple explanation why water yes and tresures not.

              By underground water there are diferent indicator on vegetation over such place. You do not need rod or such LRLs to find underground water but precise, observant and inventive observers of vegetation. Most people are largely superficial and overlook this tiny but significant details. Some people can observing thous details subconsciously, no matter: with or without LRL. Other can be trained to find water without LRL on vegetation indicators based.

              LRL is in these cases, only a device to help concentrate on the envirovement markers detecting, nothing else.

              By underground treasures there are in 99% cases no such significant indicator on surface vegetation so you are "very bad in finding treasures".

              Stories like this that you "saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting" are only fairy tale needed to LRL beliver survival.
              Global capital is ruining your life?
              You have right to self-defence!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Roughwater View Post
                I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.
                yes safe as stealth bomber

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
                  The challenge is still open, but it is unlikely I will be able to visit Macedonia anytime in the near future. Thus far there have only been two interests in the challenge and they both decided to withdraw.

                  An aluminium target is a curious choice; is this designed as an aluminium detector? Do you have any published information on your locator?

                  - Carl

                  Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
                  So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!

                  We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?

                  http://www.infowars.com

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ivconic View Post

                    Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
                    So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!

                    We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?
                    Other 200 Km and Carl is at Greece
                    I will teach him how to locate copper and silver objects with Lrods ( no generator) .
                    But you Ivica can't learn anything about Lrods because you don't believe at this
                    Geo

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                    • #25
                      What is the adress

                      What id the new masters home page adress please?

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                      • #26
                        I will believe that an LRL using L rods does the job only if it works in anybodys hands.Thats very very difficult.
                        Only then we can say that the LRL is working.Good dowsers are making money selling LRLs.Some of them admit to their customers that they have to practice dowsing if they buy their LRL.Well a few of them end up dowsing succesfully while using the LRL they bought.
                        Why? Well because they have a talent they didn't know and it just came up.
                        Of course some of them beleive that it is the LRL that does the job.
                        Ussually the ones that succed is the ones that beleived that they bought a good working LRL.This is only because a Dowser has first to really beleive that he can do it and only then it can happen.
                        Sorry but I have to say it again.
                        THE BEST LRL AROUND IS NO OTHER THAN HUMAN BEING AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WHITH HIM.
                        So in the hands of a good dowser(yes there are a few around no matter what you say) any frequency generator that uses L rods is working.
                        I beleive Geo Knows by now that dowsing exists.I think nobody can convince him different neither myself.
                        It is a great advantage for a Treasure Hunter to know if dowsing exists.
                        And when I am saying "to know" I am talking about personal experience or "see it whith your eyes hapening" experience.
                        Jesus Christ said once to his students: Don't be surprised whith what I am doing because you can do more than me but you have to beleive first.
                        So beleive you can do it or in other words beleive in yourself.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by g-sani View Post


                          So beleive you can do it or in other words beleive in yourself.
                          Hi g-sani

                          there are many religions in this world and all his belivers swear that only his religion is correct. All believers cannot be correct for sure.

                          One can believe that he knows to fly and therefore jump of 11 floor to fly. It can be dangerous religion and leaves no after-fly possibility of persuading on Forums about the possibility of flying without wings.

                          If you believe that you can dowsing it is not so dangerous religion and you have after-dowsing possiblities to persuating other believers and sceptic about dowsing existence.

                          Others do not need to believe in his dowsing abilities to believe in herself. Most sceptic do so, but are still open to any scientific evidence about dowsing reality.
                          Global capital is ruining your life?
                          You have right to self-defence!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                            Hi g-sani

                            there are many religions in this world and all his belivers swear that only his religion is correct. All believers cannot be correct for sure.

                            One can believe that he knows to fly and therefore jump of 11 floor to fly. It can be dangerous religion and leaves no after-fly possibility of persuading on Forums about the possibility of flying without wings.

                            If you believe that you can dowsing it is not so dangerous religion and you have after-dowsing possiblities to persuating other believers and sceptic about dowsing existence.

                            Others do not need to believe in his dowsing abilities to believe in herself. Most sceptic do so, but are still open to any scientific evidence about dowsing reality.
                            If I have to believe that I have wings and I can fly then I might be unstable and I am probably in need of medical treatment.
                            To believe that I can fly and to look for a way to do it that is completely different.
                            Even if you think you can fly you can always try by taking off from the ground.
                            You don't need to be Einstein to know that this is better instead of jumping from the 11th floor.
                            But I will tell you something else WM6.
                            Dowsing is as old as a few thousand years and always there were skeptics arround and then what?
                            Dowsing still exists now and that says that scientific evidence is not always neccesary to keep something going on for centuries.
                            Do not forget that science take many things as theorem and don't prove them at all.You know why?
                            Because then they would be able to explain everything even humanitys birth.
                            Well probably they should take dowsing as a theorem as well.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                              I

                              Dowsing is as old as a few thousand years and always there were skeptics arround and then what?
                              Dowsing still exists now and that says that scientific evidence is not always neccesary to keep something going on for centuries.

                              .
                              Dowsing draw its roots from different sort of ancient pagan religions in which exist as ritual procedure.

                              Yes it is old, very old, but efective only at the psychological level not on the physical plane (read explanation in post #21 how water dowsing works).

                              Today, all sort of dowsing are only small religions available to those who need such religion to alleviate the painful reality (reality that no one can detect gold from 100m in soil).

                              Problem of believers is that they can not accept reality, but if you can not accept reality, you can not even be in progress, because you only constantly spinning in a circle of unproductive illusions and dreaming.

                              So believers illusions and dreams become reality, but that virtual world can not live with a reality and can only be what they are: religion.

                              If you think that the age of some faith exist as a proof of its accuracy, then you'll have to first answer the question of which religion is right, because they deny each other and each independently maintains herself as the only law.
                              Global capital is ruining your life?
                              You have right to self-defence!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                                Dowsing draw its roots from different sort of ancient pagan religions in which exist as ritual procedure.

                                Yes it is old, very old, but efective only at the psychological level not on the physical plane (read explanation in post #21 how water dowsing works).

                                Today, all sort of dowsing are only small religions available to those who need such religion to alleviate the painful reality (reality that no one can detect gold from 100m in soil).

                                Problem of believers is that they can not accept reality, but if you can not accept reality, you can not even be in progress, because you only constantly spinning in a circle of unproductive illusions and dreaming.

                                So believers illusions and dreams become reality, but that virtual world can not live with a reality and can only be what they are: religion.

                                If you think that the age of some faith exist as a proof of its accuracy, then you'll have to first answer the question of which religion is right, because they deny each other and each independently maintains herself as the only law.
                                Listen WM6, may be you were not lucky until now to see somebody that can dowse for gold and I know very well how rare is to find an accomplished dowser that he can do it.
                                You have to change attitude to have this possibility open for the future.And I mean to see a real dowser going for gold so revealling himself to your skeptic mind.
                                To admit WM6 that you can dowse for gold it is as dangerous as when you are walking in a crowdy street carrying a see through bag full of money.
                                Oh... yes my friend we found gold many times you believe it or not.
                                The only reallity that you can not accept WM6 is that you can not do it when there is somebody else that he can.
                                You don't know the way to do it my friend and nobody is going to show you whith this attitude of yours when it comes to Dowsing.
                                Of course there are secrets and it is very difficult to learn them.
                                When you are infront of a real dowser believe me that he knows your attitude and he can also tell if you have this small extra thing that somebody needs to became a good dowser.
                                When you can dowse for gold successfully then you enhance many other abillities of yourself.
                                Everybody can do it but some are really better from the day they have borned.
                                Well I understand that when you talk about dowsers you are talking only about people that advertise themselves that they are.
                                I used to think like that myself in the past and I admit it.
                                Now the technology improved dear WM6 and gold dowsing is happening everytime out.
                                As time passes by is becoming better and better and yes you know now that the gold is there before you dig it.
                                You don't believe it WM6?
                                Sorry I did my best.

                                Many regards
                                g-sani

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