Arriving late as always...

[hung]

In 1857, french researcher Allan Kardec published a revolutionary book called 'The Book of Spirits'. It contained outstanding and daring topics regarding science, morale, philosophy, psychology, biology and many other subjects.

Actually the book was compiled by him under 'spirits' guidance. It covered around a thousand questions he asks and spirits respond through channeling of several psychics living in different places and who did not know each other.
The book was written in a time Paris was facing the advent of the 'turning tables' phenomena. So, it would offer evidence that there is no death. The individual is immortal and is comprised of a much more complex structure other than ordinary flesh, blood and bones.
In reality a type of 'quantum fluid being', since there is still no correct term for an exact definition.
In the end of the book, Kardec states that should Science prove along time that the conclusions of the book were incorrect, then science should prevail and relied to.

It happens that since then, not a single statement of that book was contradicted by science. And now, exactly 155 years later, science one more time arriving late, and with a few jumped conclusions, proves the key factor of the book. The existence of the soul.

http://scienceray.com/physics/quantum-physics-provides-a-scientific-explanation-for-the-existence-of-the-soul-according-to-two-leading-researchers/

[Qiaozhi]

Actually the book was compiled by him under 'spirits' guidance. It covered around a thousand questions he asks and spirits respond through channeling of several psychics living in different places and who did not know each other.

Total garbage!

Everything in this book has been disproved by science many times over.
Did you ever take any science classes at school, or were you asleep?

[hung]

Maybe you are the first neanderthal that can write. Congratulations.
Now it's time for you to move to the next step: association of words.

[Qiaozhi]

Maybe you are the first neanderthal that can write. Congratulations.
Now it's time for you to move to the next step: association of words.

I rest my case.

[J_Player]

In 1857, french researcher Allan Kardec published a revolutionary book called 'The Book of Spirits'. It contained outstanding and daring topics regarding science, morale, philosophy, psychology, biology and many other subjects.

Actually the book was compiled by him under 'spirits' guidance. It covered around a thousand questions he asks and spirits respond through channeling of several psychics living in different places and who did not know each other.
The book was written in a time Paris was facing the advent of the 'turning tables' phenomena. So, it would offer evidence that there is no death. The individual is immortal and is comprised of a much more complex structure other than ordinary flesh, blood and bones.
In reality a type of 'quantum fluid being', since there is still no correct term for an exact definition.
In the end of the book, Kardec states that should Science prove along time that the conclusions of the book were incorrect, then science should prevail and relied to.

It happens that since then, not a single statement of that book was contradicted by science. And now, exactly 155 years later, science one more time arriving late, and with a few jumped conclusions, proves the key factor of the book. The existence of the soul.

http://scienceray.com/physics/quantu...g-researchers/

WOW..!
Allan Kardec was obviously a revolutionary spirit genius.
Do you think he helped Alonso design the electronics for the Mineoro DCH85 long range locator?

Best Wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Total garbage!

Everything in this book has been disproved by science many times over.
Did you ever take any science classes at school, or were you asleep?

Hi Qiaozhi,
I find this an interesting post.
I am not intrigued by the actual subject of "spirit guidance" ... Noooo...
What I find intriguing is the use of the word "garbage".

In the USA, garbage is the standard word we use for things which are thrown in a trash can.
But in the UK, I usually hear the term "rubbish" rather than "garbage".
I realize both words mean approximately the same thing, but there may be slight differences.
I have always thought of rubbish as a word which refers to office refuse, and things which might be swept off the floor and thrown into a trash can.
But garbage has a slightly different connotation in my view...
I think of garbage to be more heavily weighted with biological refuse, such as discarded parts of vegetable and meat trimmings from the kitchen.
Admittedly, I am too lazy to look it up on google to find the answer, but the answer might be more meaningful coming from a technical person from the UK, to compare notes.

I am sure that whether we call it garbage or rubbish, the meaning is the same for Allan Kardec and for hungscience.
But still, I would like to hear an opinion of any difference between the two words from the UK.
Is it garbage.... or is it rubbish?


Best Wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Is it garbage.... or is it rubbish?

It's both!

[hung]

Blasphemy is the artifact of the unreasoned.
For once try to present rational inputs instead of some 'deja vu' behavior prior to your promotion as a biped.

Dr. Hameroff and Dr. Penrose recently proved something that had already been announced 155 years ago in Kardec's Spirit's Book.


Altough Hameroff is mistaken when he states that the quantum information is dissipated and distributed in the universe, since in this case it is not dissipated and retains integrity, their contribution to the scientific comunity is important.

Here's what is in the book regarding the subject and note how this had already been disclosed in that era:


Question 139. Certain spirits, and certain philosophers before them, have defined the soul as "An
animated spark that has emanated from the Great Whole"; why this contradiction?'


"There is nothing contradictory in such a definition. Everything depends on the meaning you
attribute to the words you use. Why have you not a word for each thing?"


The word soul is employed to express very different things. Sometimes It is used to designate the principle
of life and in this sense it is correct to say, figuratively, that the soul is an animated spark that has
emanated from the Great Whole. These latter words designate the universal source of the vital principle,
of which each being absorbs a portion, that returns to the general mass after its death. This Idea does not
exclude that of a moral being, a distinct personality. independent of matter, and preserving Its own
individuality It is this being which. at other times, is called the soul, and it is in this sense that we speak of
the soul as an incarnate spirit. In giving different definitions of soul, the spirits who have given them have
spoken according to their various ways of applyng that word, and also according to the terrestrial ideas
with which they are more or less imbued. This apparent confusion results from the insufficiency of human
language, which does not possess a specific word for each idea an insufficiency that gives rise to a vast
number of misapprehensions and discussions. It is for this reason that the higher spirits tell us to begin by
distinctly defining the meaning of the words we employ.

[Qiaozhi]

Blasphemy is the artifact of the unreasoned.
For once try to present rational inputs instead of some 'deja vu' behavior prior to your promotion as a biped.

[Blah ... blah ... blah ... etc., ... etc., ...]

The word soul is employed to express very different things. Sometimes It is used to designate the principle
of life and in this sense it is correct to say, figuratively, that the soul is an animated spark that has
emanated from the Great Whole. These latter words designate the universal source of the vital principle,
of which each being absorbs a portion, that returns to the general mass after its death. This Idea does not
exclude that of a moral being, a distinct personality. independent of matter, and preserving Its own
individuality It is this being which. at other times, is called the soul, and it is in this sense that we speak of
the soul as an incarnate spirit. In giving different definitions of soul, the spirits who have given them have
spoken according to their various ways of applyng that word, and also according to the terrestrial ideas
with which they are more or less imbued. This apparent confusion results from the insufficiency of human
language, which does not possess a specific word for each idea an insufficiency that gives rise to a vast
number of misapprehensions and discussions. It is for this reason that the higher spirits tell us to begin by
distinctly defining the meaning of the words we employ.

I think you've answered my previous question. (yawn)

[hung]

Your reaction was expected.
Unable to provide a miserable single productive input. Incompetent knowledge on even the most basic science to comment on both physicists' work.
You are the living proof of question 19:


19. Cannot man, through scientific investigation, penetrate some of the secrets of nature.?
"The faculty of scientific research has been given to him as a means by which he may
advance in every direction; but he cannot overstep the limits of his present possibilities."

The farther man advances in the study of the mysteries around him, the greater should be his admiration
of the power and wisdom of the Creator. But, partly through pride, partly through weakness, his intellect
itself often renders him the sport of illusion. He heaps systems upon systems; and every day shows him
how many errors he has mistaken for truths, how many truths he has repelled as errors. Ail this should be
a lesson for his pride.

Book link for rational thinking people to read:

http://www.geae.inf.br/en/books/codification/sb.pdf

Ignorance causes drowsiness indeed.

[Qiaozhi]

Ignorance causes drowsiness indeed.

That's clearly why you were asleep during science classes.

[pablo72]

In 1857, french researcher Allan Kardec published a revolutionary book called 'The Book of Spirits'. It contained outstanding and daring topics regarding science, morale, philosophy, psychology, biology and many other subjects.

Actually the book was compiled by him under 'spirits' guidance. It covered around a thousand questions he asks and spirits respond through channeling of several psychics living in different places and who did not know each other.
The book was written in a time Paris was facing the advent of the 'turning tables' phenomena. So, it would offer evidence that there is no death. The individual is immortal and is comprised of a much more complex structure other than ordinary flesh, blood and bones.
In reality a type of 'quantum fluid being', since there is still no correct term for an exact definition.
In the end of the book, Kardec states that should Science prove along time that the conclusions of the book were incorrect, then science should prevail and relied to.

It happens that since then, not a single statement of that book was contradicted by science. And now, exactly 155 years later, science one more time arriving late, and with a few jumped conclusions, proves the key factor of the book. The existence of the soul.

http://scienceray.com/physics/quantu...g-researchers/

Very interesting. Alan Kardek was sicentist?

[Qiaozhi]

Very interesting. Alan Kardek was sicentist?

Read this ->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec

Allan Kardec is the pen name of the French teacher and educator Hippolyte Léon Denizard Rivail. He was a teacher of mathematics, physics, chemistry, astronomy, physiology, comparative anatomy and French in Paris.

Further on it states:
As a teacher with little scientific background (he had never attended a university), Rivail decided to do his own research. ...

I wonder how he managed to teach physics , chemistry and astronomy then?

[hung]

Very interesting. Alan Kardek was sicentist?

Everyone who has an inquiring mind, look for answers about phenomena they do not understand but wishes to and go on by observing, studying, researching and making essays in search of conclusions is a scientist.
Kardec was no different.
You see, the 'turning tables' phenomena, around Paris at that time, was puzzling the scientific community. Kardec with all his knowledge in several matters, decided to investigate it deeply.
The Spirit's book was the spirits' answers work to more than 1,000 questions he asked these evolved entities about several subjects in physics, biology, moral, chemistry, philosophy etc.

The most remarkable aspect is that the answers were provided through 'channeling' by several psychics around Europe back then and they did not know each other. So, in order to check for the authenticity and correctness of the answers, the same questions were sent to different persons. When the answers returned, the ones that were similar, were used.
No psychic involved in the work, mostly women, had any scientific knowledge whatsoever to provide so deep, solid and evolved answers to the questions featured in the book.
This was an overwhelming evidence that spiritual entities with a high moral evolution were providing them.

Recently as I show in my first post, two physicists proved the existence of the 'soul'. Actually, this has been already accepted by many of them in the past, only no publicity was given, for obscure interests and reasons. But now, it seems there is no way to run anymore in denying the obvious.

This week, scientists discovered that synthetic magnetism can change direction of light, in this case, photons. What they did was to break in pieces on basic law of classic physics known as 'light's reverse time symmetry'.
So, as you see, current scientific knowledge is still crawling. Science is one and only, but the knowledge to understand the phenomena correctly is still insignificant compared to what lies to be learned.
No wonder Kardec stated: If science happens to prove anything in this book wrong, stick to science'.
So far, nothing in that book has been disproved. On the contrary, everyday, science proves each and every point to be correct.

[WM6]

So far, nothing in that book has been disproved. On the contrary, everyday, science proves each and every point to be correct.

The same mantra we can read about anyone other religious book (what "Spirit book" in fact is).

Even if Kardek was correct, this does not mean that your LRL is something like real LRL.