Free energy - magnetic motors

[ivconic]

I am very interested about reliability of so many articles, claim, theories, videos etc...etc.. on magnetic motor subject.
Most famous certainly is Perendev magnetic motor. Is it fake? Fraud? Or real thing?
Internet public seems to be splitted on this; some people claims it is real thing and some claims it is fraud and charlatanism. So..?
To get free energy from magnet looks very alluring to me. I had simillar ideas in the past. So ...was a kind disapointed when saw recently someone did that already.. Assuming it is not fake and it is possible.
I still beleive that it is possible to arrange strong magnets in manner to make wheel turning constantly,using power from those magnets.
Neodymium magnet seems the right thing. Very strong and lose power bairly 1% at 100 years !!!
Please look on internet all available and come here to debate.

[ivconic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFGiWiXMHn0

Perendev magnetic motor. What to say? It is working on video... I saw this video 50 times so far....

[ivconic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcjjSfiNNE

This i like most. Why? Simply it is cheap to make it and do experiments.
Before moving to something more expensive, this would be first step.
I have problems to get neodymium magnets. Especially rollers like on this video.
Searching through my scrap piles i founded excellent neodymium magnets in old, broken hard disks. Every hard disk do have 1 or 2 magnets inside.
Those are glued hardly on heads anchor arms, covering both sides of coil. Problem is those are awkward shapes. Hard to adapt to what we need at magnetic motor. Sheeesh! And firstly i was delited discovering those!

[ivconic]

I was searching for Mike Brady's "Permanent Magnet Machine" patent.
First place to look for was http://patft.uspto.gov/
But... couldn't find it!?
Must be patented somewhere else.
Using advanced search options there, i founded something else, closely tied to this subject. Wow! Just look at the list, so many people were involved in this!
So my idea actually is not new and original....

Look at the list at this link:
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO %2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=((permanent+AND +magnet)+AND+machine).TI.&Page=Prev&OS=ttl/(permanent+and+magnet+and+machine)&RS=TTL/((permanent+AND+magnet)+AND+machine)

To see original patents, first click on desired patent, than when it opens look up on options and click on "Images".
But you must have Alternatiff plugin installed to see scans. Easy...you have link to Alternatiff installation...or use Google and find it on net.

Enjoy!

[ivconic]

Actually i do have Mike Brady's "Permanent Magnet Machine" patent document in my pc. But it is integral part of one huge .pdf document. Can't fit here. Also that .pdf document is somehow locked from changing and of course from copy&paste. So i can not present it here... at least for now....until i find a way to hack that damn .pdf protection!

[ivconic]

Oh...good old SnagIt solved the problem!

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[Fred]

Hi Ivconic,
When i was 10 or 12 i was trying to make a similar machine and i always been fascinated by magnets, but could never find a way to direct the magnetic field into one direction, so it never worked.All the energy used to turn magnets so they are in the correct direction at the correct timing was more than the one produced, of course.
The energy must come from somewhere.Where does it comes from here ?

The video on post 3 is really interesting though...


I like this page: kind of "skeptics" page, at least info is neutral here, and explanation are given about why those machine don´t work. :

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

[ivconic]

Actually it should not be considered as perpetuum mobille. Not at all. Cose energy is not coming from nowhere. Energy is there in magnets. That's why i noted fact that those are loosing power bairly 1% per 100 years.
So...only problem is how to place magnets properly to make constant movements... Repulsion is crucial here. I guess there must be certain gap between magnets. Looking at pictures you can also see a gap.
I guess whole inventor secret here is proper placement and orientation of magnets..

[Fred]

Energy is there in magnets.

I see no energy in a magnet.Once it´s somewhere, even stuck to another magnet,it´s doens´t give any energy.Just like glue ...

[ivconic]

Oh yes, there is energy. Kinetic energy, momentum. Thinking that way you can't see energy in wind also. In water also....
Magnets do have acumulated energy. I might be talking like a laic here but you'll understand what i want to say.
Magnets power can be used - converted into kinetic energy. So...we only need to experiment and find proper setup.

[Fred]

Oh yes, there is energy. Kinetic energy, momentum. Thinking that way you can't see energy in wind also. In water also....
Magnets do have acumulated energy. I might be talking like a laic here but you'll understand what i want to say.
Megnets power can be used - converted into kinetic energy. So...we only need to experiment and find proper setup.

Ok Ivconic,
I sincerely wish you good luck.hope you´r right.
I see you´re ready for PD

regards,
Fred.

[ivconic]

I am not saying that i will success. First of all i can not obtain magnets...ha,ha,ha! Second...if it was so easy than it would be made already in the far past. Also i am not saying it is possible for sure. I started this thread mostly to see reactions here. So..your reactions tells me you think it is impossbile. Ok...i respect that.
You might be right...or you might be wrong. I can not prove in neither one case.
Let's see what others are thinking...