Free energy - magnetic motors

[Qiaozhi]

Like you,i wonder : WHY could someone make a fake video.I can´t understand.

That's exactly what they want you to think. I guarantee that it's a fake.
Or you could just ask Hung ... he's the expert at fake videos.

[Qiaozhi]

What else we can do but to collect material and build same thing and test it? I am preparing material and i will build it soon. Problem are those neodiyum magnets. I have to order them from abroad. Those are not expensive. I calculated; it will cost approx. 15 euros...not a big deal...

You would have more fun loading Ubuntu Linux ... and less wasted time building a permanent magnet motor.

But go ahead if you want. My hat is standing by... (if you understand my meaning).

[ivconic]

Well, only one who has interests to make and spread such faked videos arround, could be no one else but manufacturer and seller of those magnets..!!!
Personally i have doubts on that. But...you'll never know...

P.S.
This has nothing to do with subject...but think;
who earned huge sums of money recently, when new pandemia proclaimed?

[ivconic]

" My hat is standing by.."

Red Hat i presume..?

[Qiaozhi]

" My hat is standing by.."

Red Hat i presume..?

I guess you don't know the expression: "If <something happens> I'll eat my hat".

[ivconic]

Oh that!? Ahahahaha!
I suggest you to prepare all the spices available to add on hat, when time comes!

I knew for that expression...but i was focused on Linux subject...

[ivconic]

First look this page;

http://www.perendev-power.com/emm%20100kw.htm

pay attention to this:

"...Motors are never sold outright; a lease agreement gives the person the use of the equipment for 5 years which is prepaid, thereafter a nominal fee is payable monthly to maintain the lease agreement, this monthly fee is normally in the region of 100 Euro per month, this fee will include a maintenance contact..."

So..prepaid! 5 years = 60 months. 24700/60=412
So..actually customer will pay 412 euros per month for 100kw (90kw) daily option in ADVANCE. Customer is not buying motor and is NOT owner of motor. It is just lease for 5 years least. Very expensive stuff - not FREE at all (it is cheap only if motor was sold and 90kw daily were somehow guaranteed for that period).
My monthly costs for electric energy do not overcome 50 euros. 412-50=362 !! Why should i pay 362 euros more?
This all makes sense only assuming that motor is real thing - not another bogus device, fraud, charlatanism... Even than, proposed conditions are more than inconvenient. Mah have to outlay 24 700 euros in advance!!!
Prepaid!
Assuming this was real thing; this offer is convenient only for large power consumers, where daily power consumptions do reach 90kw.
20kw on daily bases would be most suitable setup for most of consumers and even than only in winter period - heathing season.
So...people from "Perendev" better to reconsider this option and project smaller setup, lower the price and make better (more human) proposals.
Those should use good,old,Bill Gates phylosophy - "..make it sweet&cheap, versatile and put it in every home!.."
That's how they can dominate the world easilly and in no time.
I would be first of their customers than.
If it was not lease type of offer, even than it would be inconvenient for most of population. But like it is presented - it is very unaccessible to us, the mortals.
What if motor stop working and they just disappear after 5 years?
What if prepaid was done and motor never come to customer (there are several reports on this over the net)...
Very strange and very funny proposal ...indeed.
Looking forward to see some personal experiences from customers...if any..

[ivconic]

Descent proposal would be they to come and install whole setup, make lease contract and customer than to start paying 100 euros per month without any deposit in advance or any huge sum as prepaid.
Or...customer to BUY motor and become OWNER of it. Before that "perendev" company must lay some deposits in national bank and provide warranty for 5 years operational...as any other serious company.
Than customer will be assured that in next 5 years he will have fully operational magnetic motor.
Actually..only problem here is prepaid sum of nearly 25 000 euros.
Also 100kw option is not necessairly for most of households.
So...to make 10-50kw options and lower prices/prepaids to acceptable levels...
Ok...even if lease is only option, but than to use same lease concept as cable tv or adsl network or iptv or simillar...

[ivconic]

I am sure the sum of 25 000 euros is stronger reason not to beleive in accuracy and existance of perendev motor than anything else! It is simply in human mind. Fear from fraud. If proposal was in customer favour and for customer benefit, than nobody would ever suspect in perendev motor from a start...
Smells like Mineoro!!!

[ivconic]

For example;
if Mineoro FG80 was sold for $120 (actually real value bairly exceed $10) than nobody will ever made any remark on those devices...right?! Despite total nonfunctionallity! For such small fee it would be immaterial was it functional or not. At least it would be considered as souvenir from stunded south....nice wooden box ...or it was woodo box!?
But that's why Bill Gates is one and only! His concept from early starts of information era, was concept of real genius. To make product available and accesible to each man on the world disregarding the customers pockets "depths" and "sizes"! Only ones who more seriously inherited Gates approach are "Made in China" fellas....at least part od Gates phylosophy if not whole.
It is sad that nowdays "genius'es" didn't learned nothing from bright history!

[J_Player]

For example;
if Mineoro FG80 was sold for $120 (actually real value bairly exceed $10) than nobody will ever made any remark on those devices...right?! Despite total nonfunctionallity! For such small fee it would be immaterial was it functional or not. At least it would be considered as souvenir from stunded south....nice wooden box ...or it was woodo box!?
But that's why Bill Gates is one and only! His concept from early starts of information era, was concept of real genius. To make product available and accesible to each man on the world disregarding the customers pockets "depths" and "sizes"! Only ones who more seriously inherited Gates approach are "Made in China" fellas....at least part od Gates phylosophy if not whole.
It is sad that nowdays "genius'es" didn't learned nothing from bright history!

Ah.. now, I see real genius....
As I read through these posts, I see you broke your last message into five separate posts. And I wonder why?
I mean, why not make a single post instead of five separate posts to to answer Qiaozhi?

It was not until I did some searching in the forum that the answer came to me.
I found the reason for making 5 posts instead of one in Carl's announcement area:
Hmmm... What have we here?

10th Anniversary CONTEST!!!

Here are the rules:

• Every post counts as 1 point.
• Every new thread-start counts as 2 extra points (3 total).
• Posts such as "Attaboy!" and "Thanks!" will not count.
• You must be a registered user and post under your own ID. If you accidentally (or intentionally) post as unregistered I cannot count those posts.
• Points will be totaled from March 24 through July 24.
• Points count as "entries" to a final drawing. If you end up with 50 points, you will have 50 entries into the drawing.
• I will physically print all entries onto small slips of paper using your ID number. If you have 50 entries then you will get 50 slips of paper. I will then put them all in a box and have an independent person draw a paper slip. Winner!

What do you win? A t-shirt? A certificate suitable for framing? Heck no, how about...

Your choice of a White's TDI Pulse Induction detector or a White's Spectra V3 detector !



I wonder if that contest has anything to do with Ivconic's recent change in posting methods?
Nah, he don't want to win a crummy White's TDI PI or Spectra V3.... Does he?

Real genius survives!

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

Ahahahahahhahahahahaha!
Now...who is real genius here!??? Me or you??
Ha,ha,ha! I did that unintentionally. My new habit, have nothing to do with any contest. Besides..i already excluded myself from contest.
Some of posts must be separated. Presents separate thought. Also...i am here mostly in the morning and very late in the evening. Usually after posting i am awaiting other members reaction. Sometimes i get fast reply and than i am writing reply. But oftenly nor replys and i end up in funny position, talking to myself. Especially very late in evening; all of the sudden everybody left?? That could be possible explanation. Contest..? No...not at all dear friend. I dont have slitest interest for contest. I live in a banana country - black hole of the universe and gaining any prize from abroad would cause me a lot of pains and problems here; administration and financial problems. This state is real black hole of the universe. I'll rather wont be here....but i dont have any other place to go. And i cant...
So...you and me...we are not genius...pitty.
Ha,ha,ha!!! You made me laugh indeed!

[ivconic]

Hey look; this is another post!
I already abandoned my own forum cause of simillar remarks and attitude upon my appearances and freedom to speech. Now...i am seriously thinking to abondon this place also...at least until contest ends. Really want to skip any possible missunderstanding.
So that would be probably all from me...until August.
Very best regards friends!

[ivconic]

Hey ...look! Another post! Counter is running like mad!
No...i cant really stand without nice number. I had to post again to gain 2,222 , nice number!
Now i am satisfied and i will stop.
Regards!

[J_Player]

Ahahahahahhahahahahaha!
Now...who is real genius here!??? Me or you??
Ha,ha,ha! I did that unintentionally. My new habit, have nothing to do with any contest. Besides..i already excluded myself from contest.

...I already abandoned my own forum cause of simillar remarks and attitude upon my appearances and freedom to speech. Now...i am seriously thinking to abondon this place also...at least until contest ends. Really want to skip any possible missunderstanding.

Hi Ivconic,
There is no reason to stop posting. I have no bad intentions or attitude against your posts. What I posted came because I noticed your sudden interest in LRLs and in free energy methods. This came suddenly after several years that you declared you don't believe LRLs can work. What seemed strange is that you suddenly started a new habit of making posts in the "off topic and remote sensing forums, where I don't see you posting regularly for a long time. If you have a habit of posting late at night in many small posts, then it is only a coincidence that this happens at the same time when the forum contest is started.

I have been reading all the free energy topics you started, and I doubt any of the methods discussed have any future that will result in new methods of getting free energy. The old methods -- wind energy, solar heating and solar electricity have been proven for a long time, but the others are controversial, and I have not seen any track record of any of them giving any substantial free energy.

Reading through the free energy posts, I see many interesting ideas that could be fun for people who have the time to experiment. But I read one of your posts that is linked to a new method of free energy looks like it may work. This is the idea of using current-controlled power to make hydrogen and oxygen out of water and use it to help power your car. I will describe this in the following post, because it is too much for this post...

Best wishes,
J_P