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Hi Ivconic,
Now, back to the free energy stuff.
The post that caught my interest is where you showed a PWM power circuit that regulates the current to a presettable amount that happens to be a lot of current. You talked about using this circuit for a PI detector. After reading the source you referenced, It showed this circuit was designed to protect an automotive alternator when it is used to generate hydrogen and oxygen which are sent to the intake manifold of a car. The added combustible gasses are used to augment the air/fuel mixture that the engine normally runs on.
The people who promote this method claim the engine produces more power than the extra power it uses to create hydrogen and oxygen. They also claim it causes the engine exhaust emissions to be reduced, and that the engine will burn the fuel cleaner.
On the surface, this seems impossible. The process of separating water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burning the two gasses to produce power so the gasses change back to the water state is bound to have less than 100% efficiency. ie: there should be energy lost in the process. Yet the promoters of this method claim there is a net gain. I don't know if their claims are true or not. But after thinking it through, it seems like there may be a way that it could work:
First, I don't believe we can receive any more power from burning the water than the power we add to make it into gasses. But looking at the overall efficiency of cars, there are a lot of reasons why we could come out ahead, even after putting more energy into the process than is returned.
To start, a gasoline powered passenger car is only about 30% efficient, when measuring the energy in the fuel and comparing the energy needed to move the vehicle. The alternator that produces the power to convert the water to gasses is around 80% efficient at best. When the alternator is not producing much power, then the efficiency is less, because it has the same friction losses as when it is producing a lot of power. This would suggest that a good strategy is to use the alternator to do something useful when it is running.
The thought that comes to mind is maybe the additional power used by the alternator to convert water into gasses does not put much more of a load on the engine than when the alternator is not powering a heavy load. If this is the case, then any help in producing more combustible fuel comes at the cost of only a little additional engine load. This would mean that the hydrogen and oxygen produced is nearly free when measuring the added fuel the engine must use to produce it. The theory is the added hydrogen/oxygen mixture will augment the power produced by the engine, and cause it to use less fuel from the fuel tank. In theory, this sounds feasible. At least I have read a lot of reports by people who have tried it and say it works. I can't say for sure, because I never tried it myself. But is seems like an interesting thing to experiment with. Apparently, the feasibility of this scheme depends on several factors, especially the design of the HHO fuel cell and how efficient it is in generating gasses from water.
I don't believe the HHO fuel cell scheme is really free energy, but if what they say is true, it can lead to lower fuel cost and a better way to power your car.
BTW, This post is an off topic post within the "off topic" forum, since the topic here is magnetic motors, not HHO fuel cells.
Best wishes,
J_P
Now, back to the free energy stuff.
The post that caught my interest is where you showed a PWM power circuit that regulates the current to a presettable amount that happens to be a lot of current. You talked about using this circuit for a PI detector. After reading the source you referenced, It showed this circuit was designed to protect an automotive alternator when it is used to generate hydrogen and oxygen which are sent to the intake manifold of a car. The added combustible gasses are used to augment the air/fuel mixture that the engine normally runs on.
The people who promote this method claim the engine produces more power than the extra power it uses to create hydrogen and oxygen. They also claim it causes the engine exhaust emissions to be reduced, and that the engine will burn the fuel cleaner.
On the surface, this seems impossible. The process of separating water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burning the two gasses to produce power so the gasses change back to the water state is bound to have less than 100% efficiency. ie: there should be energy lost in the process. Yet the promoters of this method claim there is a net gain. I don't know if their claims are true or not. But after thinking it through, it seems like there may be a way that it could work:
First, I don't believe we can receive any more power from burning the water than the power we add to make it into gasses. But looking at the overall efficiency of cars, there are a lot of reasons why we could come out ahead, even after putting more energy into the process than is returned.
To start, a gasoline powered passenger car is only about 30% efficient, when measuring the energy in the fuel and comparing the energy needed to move the vehicle. The alternator that produces the power to convert the water to gasses is around 80% efficient at best. When the alternator is not producing much power, then the efficiency is less, because it has the same friction losses as when it is producing a lot of power. This would suggest that a good strategy is to use the alternator to do something useful when it is running.
The thought that comes to mind is maybe the additional power used by the alternator to convert water into gasses does not put much more of a load on the engine than when the alternator is not powering a heavy load. If this is the case, then any help in producing more combustible fuel comes at the cost of only a little additional engine load. This would mean that the hydrogen and oxygen produced is nearly free when measuring the added fuel the engine must use to produce it. The theory is the added hydrogen/oxygen mixture will augment the power produced by the engine, and cause it to use less fuel from the fuel tank. In theory, this sounds feasible. At least I have read a lot of reports by people who have tried it and say it works. I can't say for sure, because I never tried it myself. But is seems like an interesting thing to experiment with. Apparently, the feasibility of this scheme depends on several factors, especially the design of the HHO fuel cell and how efficient it is in generating gasses from water.
I don't believe the HHO fuel cell scheme is really free energy, but if what they say is true, it can lead to lower fuel cost and a better way to power your car.
BTW, This post is an off topic post within the "off topic" forum, since the topic here is magnetic motors, not HHO fuel cells.
Best wishes,
J_P
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