Ubuntu Linux

[ivconic]

Qiaozhi, how about XT Turbo 4/10MHz, 32Mb hard disk and 5.25" floppy and Hercules graphic??? Any chance Bubuntu will work on that platform???


Oh yes! Also have Hayes Hidden modem 1200 baudrate...

[Fred]

What is the specification of your PC?

A fast Pc :q6600 with 4g of memory etc.
At work a P4 3ghz.
Maybe a laptop too?

[Fred]

Qiaozhi, how about XT Turbo 4/10MHz, 32Mb hard disk and 5.25" floppy and Hercules graphic??? Any chance Bubuntu will work on that platform???


Oh yes! Also have Hayes Hidden modem 1200 baudrate...

Nice PC Ivconic,
In a few years worth a fortune on ebay

[J_Player]

What would be your advice to install unbutu if you have only one HD and windows installed, wanting to keep it of course ?

Hi Fred,
I once installed Ubuntu on a PC that had Windows XP home installed on a single 120 MB disk. During the Ubuntu install procedure, you begin with some menus that permit you to add a partition to the hard disk. This allows you to install Ubuntu in a separate disk partition without disturbing the Windows installation. You must allocate enough disk space in the new partition to run Ubuntu and whatever extra space you need for "add on" software packages and data. I used 20MB partition of the 120 MB disk.

After Ubuntu was installed, then each time I booted the PC, Ubuntu recognized the Windows partition during boot, and gave me a menu screen to choose to boot the Windows partition or the Ubuntu partition. If I chose to boot Windows, then Windows would run as usual without knowing there is Ubuntu installed on the other partition. It only knows it has a smaller disk (100 MB, not 120 MB), and some mysterious 20 MB partition that it cannot access.

But if I boot into Ubuntu, Ubuntu runs, and will show the Windows partition, and will allow me to look through it and read and use files that I saved on the Windows partition. I can also copy any Windows files I want into the Ubuntu partition, or create new files in either the Windows partition or the Ubuntu partition.

After awhile, I decided to remove the Ubuntu partition and run pure Windows on that computer. This was easy to do using Ubuntu. I was back to 120 MB hard disk for Windows after uninstalling Ubuntu.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Qiaozhi, how about XT Turbo 4/10MHz, 32Mb hard disk and 5.25" floppy and Hercules graphic??? Any chance Bubuntu will work on that platform???


Oh yes! Also have Hayes Hidden modem 1200 baudrate...

Dang... museum stuff...

Horror museum I mean...

Maybe Ubuntu will not run... you could always try with some macumba instead!

Don't tell me... you have also a magnetized and LOUD green-phospors monitor...

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

Nice PC Ivconic,
In a few years worth a fortune on ebay

If only i had enough brains to keep it.I reassembled it long time ago searching for scrap material....But i do keep Atari ST520 and Schneider CPC6128 as brand new! Ebay...here i come!


About Ubuntu (not Bubuntu - it was a joke);
during installation process i noticed it is better your dsl to be present and than all the process are going faster and better without to much asking questions and bugging. Actually Ubuntu automatically download all neccessary drivers (packages) and updates in no time. I am plain novice in Linux so i will not talk to much on that subject, because Qiaozhi might die laughing when read my words. Just noticed that benefit from dsl and was pretty amazed with speed and how all installation was done without any problem or hitch.
"...my 2 cents..."

[ivconic]

Dang... museum stuff...

Horror museum I mean...

Maybe Ubuntu will not run... you could always try with some macumba instead!

Don't tell me... you have also a magnetized and LOUD green-phospors monitor...

Kind regards,
Max

That kind ...yes. But my was amber not green! 14" !!!

[J_Player]

during installation process i noticed it is better your dsl to be present and than all the process is going faster and better without to much asking questions and buging. Actually Ubuntu automatically download all neccessary drivers (packages) and updates in no time.

Hi Ivconic,
Yes, very nice how Ubuntu recognizes most hardware and auto installs the correct drivers.
Maybe you can try installing Ubuntu on your Turbo-XT. -- Probably has the needed drivers, but will take a long time to download with the Hayes modem..

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Hi Fred,
I once installed Ubuntu on a PC that had Windows XP home installed on a single 120 MB disk. J_P

Hi J_P,
Thanks for explanations!
I have already downloaded it and will try it some day.This one think i want to do from long time.
But you mean Gb, not Mb , right ? I can´t imagine xp on a 120mb disk...
Regards,
Fred.

[Qiaozhi]

A fast Pc :q6600 with 4g of memory etc.
At work a P4 3ghz.
Maybe a laptop too?

Should be no problem. Check first by running Ubuntu directly from the CD. Be aware that it runs slower that way, but is much faster after a proper install.

[Fred]

Should be no problem. Check first by running Ubuntu directly from the CD. Be aware that it runs slower that way, but is much faster after a proper install.

Ok, i´ll try,didn´t know the same version runs directly on CD
Thanks!
Fred.

[Qiaozhi]

If only i had enough brains to keep it.I reassembled it long time ago searching for scrap material....But i do keep Atari ST520 and Schneider CPC6128 as brand new! Ebay...here i come!


About Ubuntu (not Bubuntu - it was a joke);
during installation process i noticed it is better your dsl to be present and than all the process are going faster and better without to much asking questions and bugging. Actually Ubuntu automatically download all neccessary drivers (packages) and updates in no time. I am plain novice in Linux so i will not talk to much on that subject, because Qiaozhi might die laughing when read my words. Just noticed that benefit from dsl and was pretty amazed with speed and how all installation was done without any problem or hitch.
"...my 2 cents..."

I think that might be asking for too much. But you can turn it into a dumb terminal that connects to your Linux box ->

http://www.sorgonet.com/8086/8088_linux_dumb_terminal/

Then .... just when you think it's not possible ->

http://www.minix3.org/

http://fixunix.com/minix/28315-minix-8088-640kb-20mb.html

Who knows? I've never tried it.

[J_Player]

But you mean Gb, not Mb , right ? I can´t imagine xp on a 120mb disk...

Yes. GB

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

I think that might be asking for too much. But you can turn it into a dumb terminal that connects to your Linux box ->

http://www.sorgonet.com/8086/8088_linux_dumb_terminal/

Then .... just when you think it's not possible ->

http://www.minix3.org/

http://fixunix.com/minix/28315-minix-8088-640kb-20mb.html

Who knows? I've never tried it.

Eh...this will "itch" me enough to try it! I dont have my XT anymore...but i can find something even better; some 386 or 486 notebook...just for playing and learning command prompt mode. At the time when informatic era knocked at our doors i was deciding which way to go. DOS 3.30 was to tempty for me. So i choosed that way. But from time to time i had chances to see real UNIX. I liked it much at the time. Than i started to write some bussiness software on Cobol and you know...once you "catched" in a Cobol - you are lost for good. So...i hadn't time to learn unix. By inertion i adopted DOS...and that's how all started.
But now , modern Linux is something much different, i like it much. Although i feel pretty lost in it still. It's logic is so strange to me from time to time. I am to tied to win i guess. Will need some time to adapt to Linux.
But also intend to obtain some 386/486 notebook and than to search through my floppy disks archive to admonish on some code i wrote long time ago. It sounds trivial nowdays when there are easy software for everything man can need, but it is nostalgia..nothing else.
BTW i have Virtual PC 2004 installed on my system. Very nice thing!

[J_Player]

Eh...this will "itch" me enough to try it! I dont have my XT anymore...but i can find something even better; some 386 or 486 notebook...just for playing and learning command prompt mode. At the time when informatic era knocked at our doors i was deciding which way to go. DOS 3.30 was to tempty for me. So i choosed that way. But from time to time i had chances to see real UNIX. I liked it much at the time.

Hi Ivconic,
The history of Dos is rooted in UNIX. Dos was a derivative that Bill Gates had sitting on a shelf at the time IBM was looking for someone to sell them an OS. When IBM bought Bill Gates Dos, this was the beginning of the rise of Microsoft.You have seen the limitations of Dos, and how UNIX has much more power. This is because Dos was intended to remove a lot of UNIX features that were not needed for basic data processing on a desktop computer.

Today's Linux is written to work similar to UNIX, but is developed for desktop computers instead of mainframes. The code in Linux, and Unix is written almost exclusively in ANSI C language. There are some Linux applications that contain Python, C++, and a few others, but it is mostly C, which allow Linux programs to run very fast in their native environment.

Modern Linux still uses command line instructions to accomplish nearly any task a programmer could want to do. Many of these command line instructions are almost identical to UNIX, only adapted for desktop usage. But there are many Linux distributions that have become more user friendly, to look and act like Windows. Ubuntu is the leader in this area. It allows you to work with a desktop and install most software in a similar manner to how Windows works, using the mouse to drag and drop things, or click on install buttons. Of course, you can still do all these same things on the terminal command line with greater control. But most users like the convenience of a Windows type interface, without the slow speed and high cost of Windows.

For those who are interested in the command line operation, you have a lot of freedom to write your own code to modify nearly any part of Linux you want for customizing your installation. You will also find a lot of code that was written by other programmers to modify Linux the way you want, and you can download at no cost to install on your PC.

Best wishes,
J_P