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  • #31
    Originally posted by Max
    Seems to me about difficault he made everything as stand-alone in the car... including a supposed working ionosphere harvesting device... all in that car.

    I cannot say anything for sure about... but I think the idea of remote powering of the car is far more realistic than having all stuff onboard, also considering space required at that time for electric/electronic devices... huge stuff... and much weight that sum to the car's own weight.

    I think he wanna just demonstrate to the world the potential of remote powering with that car... no fuel required, no smoke/exausts produced, no noise, no complex carburetors/supply system etc just the car will tap at the air... getting power from rf.
    I doubt this is true. Tesla did not build any power transmitting towers at that time, nor did anyone else. It was not possible to build such a tower without alerting someone that there is a new tower that is sending out power. This was also at a time when Tesla did not have a laboratory to conduct his experiments. He spent most of his time in his modest apartment.

    Secondly, none of Tesla's power transmitters sent power through the air using RF. They sent power through the ground at sub-RF frequencies, and used receiving equipment that received the transmitted power from the ground. If the car had a receiver to collect power from a transmission station, then the car would need to have a grounding rod buried in the ground in order to receive this power. But the car is rolling on rubber wheels, and cannot be connected to a grounding rod. So this circuit could not possibly completed to the car when it was moving. Read his patents and you will see the power cannot be received without at least one grounding rod driven a minimum of a few feet into the ground, preferably at least 20 feet deep.

    Maybe better to look to the concept of drawing power from the ionosphere as Tesla described.

    Best wishes,
    J_P

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    • #32
      Interesting drawing, right on the subject of what we were talking before :-)
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Fred
        Interesting drawing, right on the subject of what we were talking before :-)
        Hi Fred,
        This is correct. Tesla created designs to tap into the immense power available in the ionosphere during his later work, when he developed methods of sending out more power from his transmission towers than he put into them. His earlier designs were only to send power into the earth through deep grounding rods. It was a scheme to use the earth as a conductor for single-wire transmission. The transmission station sent the power into a very deep grounding rod and "pumped" the earth to send it to anyone who put a rod into the ground with a tuned receiving station connected to collect some of his power. When he discovered he could tap into the charge in the ionosphere, he realized that this could only be done if you created a high enough voltage to ionize a conductive path from the earth to the ionosphere. Tesla's machines that drew power from the ionosphere were only receiving coils. The power received was then sent to his transmission station into the ground to be transmitted to people who wanted to tap into the ground to use it.

        In order to understand what Tesla was doing, it is important to separate his method of transmitting power, and his method of drawing power from the ionosphere. These are two different concepts. Drawing power from the ionosphere was accomplished by creating a conductive path to the ionosphere and using a circuit for collecting the ionosphere's charge. His circuit to transmit power involved using an AC resonant circuit to send large amounts of power into the earth via a deeply buried grounding rod. The path for power transmission was the earth, not the air.

        Here is what Tesla said in his early years about his power transmission and communications transmission, taken from Colliers Weekly magazine in 1901:

        "Some ten years ago, I recognized the fact that to convey electric currents to a distance it was not at all necessary to employ a return wire, but that any amount of energy might be transmitted by using a single wire. I illustrated this principle by numerous experiments, which, at that time, excited considerable attention among scientific men.

        This being practically demonstrated, my next step was to use the earth itself as the medium for conducting the currents, thus dispensing with wires and all other artificial conductors. So I was led to the development of a system of energy transmission and of telegraphy without the use of wires, which I described in 1893. The difficulties I encountered at first in the transmission of currents through the earth were very great. At that time I had at hand only ordinary apparatus, which I found to be ineffective, and I concentrated my attention immediately upon perfecting machines for this special purpose. This work consumed a number of years, but I finally vanquished all difficulties and succeeded in producing a machine which, to explain its operation in plain language, resembled a pump in its action, drawing electricity from the earth and driving it back into the same at an enormous rate, thus creating ripples or disturbances which, spreading through the earth as through a wire, could be detected at great distances by carefully attuned receiving circuits. In this manner I was able to transmit to a distance, not only feeble effects for the purposes of signaling, but considerable amounts of energy, and later discoveries I made convinced me that I shall ultimately succeed in conveying power without wires, for industrial purposes, with high economy, and to any distance, however great".

        It was later that Tesla discovered he could draw power from the ionosphere. This led him to direct his attention to the enormous amount of power available that could be put to use, and new experiments to refine the methods to harness it.

        Best wishes,
        J_P

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        • #34
          Sorta free!

          Pending!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by homefire View Post
            Pending!
            What?

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            • #36
              Candle Power

              I have not tried this.

              I would think candle was was Dielectric.

              Hydrocarbons burning (WAX) would produce free electrons.

              What to hell the Magnet was about I have no Idea.

              Are the Two flames producing a ION battery?


              I think this is a ruse. I think there are batteries within the candles and the Ions from the flame Completes the circuit.

              Some candle wicks have a wire within them! This could make it work. BUSTED> I BE THINKIN

              What do you think?



              Here you go.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by homefire View Post
                I have not tried this.

                I would think candle was was Dielectric.

                Hydrocarbons burning (WAX) would produce free electrons.

                What to hell the Magnet was about I have no Idea.

                Are the Two flames producing a ION battery?


                I think this is a ruse. I think there are batteries within the candles and the Ions from the flame Completes the circuit.

                Some candle wicks have a wire within them! This could make it work. BUSTED> I BE THINKIN

                What do you think?



                Here you go.

                What !!!
                Amazing!
                It's easy enough to find out. Got some spare candles?

                Best wishes,
                J_P

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  What !!!
                  Amazing!
                  It's easy enough to find out. Got some spare candles?

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P
                  Not that amazing. It's a simple magic trick.
                  Note how he puts at least one hand below the table top whenever he lights the candles or blows them out. No doubt there's a power source below the table that's connected to the two nails.

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                  • #39
                    Yea! Some thing is a miss!

                    Wax can not and will not conduct electrons.!

                    A coil under the table! Open Ended Transformer.

                    We have high tension wires not to far from my house.

                    If you park under the 370,000 volt they Carry , you get shocked opening your car door.

                    If you live under them your going to end up with Leukemia!

                    A spool of 12 gauge 100ft wire placed under it produces enough power to light a small bulb. Open circuit Voltage was 600 volts.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by homefire View Post
                      Yea! Some thing is a miss!

                      Wax can not and will not conduct electrons.!

                      A coil under the table! Open Ended Transformer.

                      We have high tension wires not to far from my house.

                      If you park under the 370,000 volt they Carry , you get shocked opening your car door.

                      If you live under them your going to end up with Leukemia!

                      A spool of 12 gauge 100ft wire placed under it produces enough power to light a small bulb. Open circuit Voltage was 600 volts.
                      It's not even that complicated.
                      Stop the camera, push the nails all the way through the candles. Attach wires behind candles (out of sight). Start camera. Voila!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                        It's not even that complicated.
                        Stop the camera, push the nails all the way through the candles. Attach wires behind candles (out of sight). Start camera. Voila!
                        ... and here's the proof!

                        Picture #1 was taken just before rubbing the nails with the magnet, and picture #2 was taken just after showing the magnet.

                        First the camera is stopped and restarted to give a closeup of the nails and magnet. The camera is then stopped again and restarted back at the original zoom level. Compare how far the nails are pushed into the candles in each snapshot. It is clear that they are pushed in further in picture #2, and obviously protrude from the rear of each candle.

                        Is anyone prepared to own up that they actually tried it?
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                        • #42
                          Aha... Busted!

                          Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                          ... and here's the proof!

                          Picture #1 was taken just before rubbing the nails with the magnet, and picture #2 was taken just after showing the magnet.

                          First the camera is stopped and restarted to give a closeup of the nails and magnet. The camera is then stopped again and restarted back at the original zoom level. Compare how far the nails are pushed into the candles in each snapshot. It is clear that they are pushed in further in picture #2, and obviously protrude from the rear of each candle.

                          Is anyone prepared to own up that they actually tried it?
                          Did you notice there are no follow-up posts at the bottom of this video? I wonder...
                          Is the maker of this video thinking.... "how many retards can I get to dig out some candles and try this BS? Muhahahaaaa...

                          Best wishes,
                          J_P
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                          • #43
                            Well spoted Qiaozhi,
                            This is because of some idiots like this one that nobody can thrust each other and we loos so much time .
                            On the other side it helps some others to keep sharp

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                            • #44
                              hi

                              This happens because the wire will form a short circuit that connects the ground to the voltage in the air where you are trying to collect a charge. The result is you have moved the ground voltage to a location above where you are trying to collect a charge from. So as the current begins to flow into the top of the charge-collecting antenna, it will quickly pass down the conductor, and the upper voltage will drop to the ground voltage.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by monay View Post
                                This happens because the wire will form a short circuit that connects the ground to the voltage in the air where you are trying to collect a charge. The result is you have moved the ground voltage to a location above where you are trying to collect a charge from. So as the current begins to flow into the top of the charge-collecting antenna, it will quickly pass down the conductor, and the upper voltage will drop to the ground voltage.
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                                Completely wrong!
                                It was done by video trickery.

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