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Originally Posted by J_Player
Hi Qiaozhi,
Maybe you missed something. If you look at my post above, you will find that there are companies who use chemical analysis to locate areas of the ground containing metal ions leached from metal or ores deep below. This technique is used by a number of gold mining and oil exploration companies. What Franco is referencing is the fact they found surface soil containing metal ions that can be used to pinpoint a target deep below in the ground.
Unless all these companies are lying about what they found, we can expect to find a trail of metal ions rising vertically in the soil above a long-time buried metal object or ore. These ions have a very short lifetime once they reach the surface, so by locating soil with metal ions at the surface, you have a convenient pin-pointer for a buried target.
The problems in locating these targets from long distance are:
1. Build an instrument that can detect extremely small amounts of metal ions in the soil of a field that may be contaminated with many other signals to interfere with the sensing instrument. (Interfering signals include all kinds of electrical noise from the atmosphere, man-made and natural, as well as tiny current flows and fields in the ground).
2. After constructing this instrument to locate the metal ions in the soil at distance, find a method to get the instrument to identify what metal ions you have located in the soil.
3. An optional feature of a working LRL would be to find a method to determine the depth of the buried target. There may be some reasonable method to accomplish this, because according to the reports, there is a trail of ions from the buried object to the surface of the soil that rises pretty much vertically. Perhaps there are physical properties of this ion-impregnated soil column that can be measured to determine its height.
My question to you is:
After reading the reports, do you think there are metal ions in the surface soil like they say? And, do you know of some reasons why it would not be possible to develop an electronic instrument to locate this weak concentration of metal ions at long range (over 20 feet)?
Best wishes,
J_P
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Hi,
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After reading the reports, do you think there are metal ions in the surface soil like they say? And, do you know of some reasons why it would not be possible to develop an electronic instrument to locate this weak concentration of metal ions at long range (over 20 feet)?
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1. think is possible that metal ions are on surface soil...why not. Matrix-metal interactions could generate ionic-pairs, really small amounts. Also bacteria or other "simple" lifeform that stay in the matrix... I agree on that point.
2. electronic lrl ??? I think is possible e.g. put a sharp tip in the soil, for some cm depth... and getting some data due to some accurate sensor... like some airborn-ion-sniffers do...
I saw one time an object like this in a scientific reportage on Mars (or Venus?) exploring by some kind of robot (soviet union space program) that used 2 different methods to analize elements in planet soil:
- using a sharp tip tool, inserting it in soil... then some kind of reactions take place to give electrical signals to onboard computer
- using a kind of pipe... (very interesting!)
second method was different, pipe have at top a pulse laser... (something like 1Mw burst, really powerful)...
work like this:
- robot put pipe on the soil exercing a big pressure
- when end of pipe was inserted in soil a laser burst was triggered
- laser pulse energize and "vaporize" some superficial soil particles, thus generating (also) airborn-ions
- then internal analyzer ("ion sniffer") trap ions and count them
- then data was sent to onboard computer for transmission to Earth
So , I think that big problem... as always stated here is that you need to test soil directly (like oil companies do) or use an airborn-ion generator (of some kind) to get ions from soil... to get LRL work, cause there isn't any real , natural ,good and predictable self-generation of airborn ions. This is the hard problem.
You have only two way :
- or a "passive" device that analize soil directly (like lab would do but electronically... seems hard to do, require some kind of chemical binding... specific compounds...)
- or an "active" device that make airborn ions from matrix to be sniffed by sensor (electronically too and easier, but with the use of an airborn ion generator)
Seems possible both way... but require lot of technology!
Best regards,
Max