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Old 02-17-2010, 11:59 PM
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A Blind Hog Will Sometimes Find an Acorn....

So if you aren't going to challenge the Examiner in a full blown DB test, and you are satisfied with a "once in awhile find", then no need to waste your money on an Examiner. A piece of bent wire (L-shaped), your natural intuition, research, basic logic and best-guessing will come up "looking" successful "sometimes".
A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.
If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
Do you want to know why?
There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:38 AM
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Hi g-sani,

The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:29 PM
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Hi g-sani,

The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.
Hi Qiaozhi,
You see how dificult it is for somebody to say that he knows a couple of places where treasure is.I was thinking to put it down in my post and may be I was wrong doing it.
Straight away people fantasize that "I think" that I know where treasure is although I explained the situation.
I will explain again in case I was misunderstood.
I first went to those places having maps whith some reading on them explaining where the treasure was hidden and yes they were giving the exact spot one of them in pain Greek.
Then I got my LORENZ X3 went there again and crosschecked two of the places.Then some other time I went there to check them whith my freq.generator to see what it does.Bingo I got them again not by using rods but by having readings on the meter of my LRL.Well the third one I could not check it whith my X3 because it is inside a church.
Do you think that it was by chance to have readings in the same places(spots)? Do you think that Lorenz X3 gives faulse readings for targets the size of a box? Believe me it doesn't and anybody using it can assure you about that.
I agree that if you know the place of a target then most of the people might detect it whith rods but sorry this says nothing to me as well since your skeptical mind will be always keep saying that this is because of the ideomotor efect so nothing can be proved.
Electroscope 901 gave us a good target once and it was people again saying it was lucky and all this rubish.Many years passed and we had a few more finds and some of them were of a good value.
Is it bacause we are lucky and you are not?
If this is the case I feel sory for you my friend.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:45 PM
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A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.
If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
Do you want to know why?
There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.
Whatever..... I can see your mind is made up, and there is nothing I'm going to say that will change it in any way.

Good luck with your Intuition Indicator. Believe me; a bent piece of wire will do the same thing for you.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:49 PM
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Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

...wonder what happened to that little venture?
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:08 PM
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Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

...wonder what happened to that little venture?
I don't have time for fishing.
It is where I would be if I wasn't stuck in an office for so many hours.

That little venture is in the same stage of progress as I stated in numerous posts above. Currently I am waiting for people to send me a PM to come and try it out with their own hands. But nobody responded. I contacted 4 Geotech forum members in my local area, and found that all four of them declined to do any testing on the Examiner, even if I came to where they are located so they could conveniently perform tests.

At present, after trying to locate known targets with the Examiner adjusted at the factory settings, and re-adjusted to different settings, I have concluded that I am a person who is biologically impaired, and cannot perform a scientific test on an Examiner even if it is tuned perfectly. Without a person who has "normal biological signals", I cannot make an accurate adjustment of the trimmer cap.

I have no questions other than to ask if anyone wants to try it out in thie Los Angeles area and see if they can find good response with it after making their best adjustments at the controls. If you have suggestions of how you think I should proceed next, I would be interested in hearing them.

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Old 02-18-2010, 11:26 PM
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That little venture is in the same stage of progress as I stated in numerous posts above. Currently I am waiting for people to send me a PM to come and try it out with their own hands. But nobody responded. I contacted 4 Geotech forum members in my local area, and found that four of them declined to do any testing on the Examiner, even if I came to where they are located so they could conveniently perform tests.

At present. After trying to locate known targets with the Examiner adjusted at the factory settings, and re-adjusted to different settings, I have concluded that I am a person who is biologically impaired, and cannot perform a scientific test on an Examiner even if it is tuned perfectly. Without a person who has "normal biological signals", I cannot make an accurate adjustment of the trimmer cap.

I have no questions other than to ask if anyone wants to try it out in thie Los Angeles area and see if they can find good response with it after making their best adjustments at the controls. If you have suggestions of how you think I should proceed next, I would be interested in hearing them.

Best wishes,
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I would like to offer something constructive here. Could we start with you explaining to me (and anyone else the could help) exactly what you mean by... and how you determined.... you were biologically impaired? What, exactly are normal biological signals? Can you get a standard L-rod to respond to targets in plain sight? I can, and I've found very few who can't get that kind of response. Maybe that's not the response you are talking about... please enlighten me.

There must have been something in the information you received from R-T that is different from the advertising I've seen. I was under the impression the Examiner was STRICTLY a electronic device, thus any and all reactions had nothing to do with the operator or the characteristics of the operator.

Now obviously I've gotten a wrong impression, so I wish you could refer me to the public information that states it WILL NOT work if the operator has certain characteristics or attributes. And, what about members of your immediate family? A son, a daughter or perhaps your wife? Maybe a sister or brother, aunt or uncle. Have they also been determined to be biologically impaired?

Also, I'm really surprised that forum members in your immediate area would not be willing to give it a try. Unfortunate indeed. If I was that close, you can bet I would have tried it.

Thanks for the update....
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I would like to offer something constructive here. Could we start with you explaining to me (and anyone else the could help) exactly what you mean by... and how you determined.... you were biologically impaired? What, exactly are normal biological signals? Can you get a standard L-rod to respond to targets in plain sight? I can, and I've found very few who can't get that kind of response. Maybe that's not the response you are talking about... please enlighten me.

There must have been something in the information you received from R-T that is different from the advertising I've seen. I was under the impression the Examiner was STRICTLY a electronic device, thus any and all reactions had nothing to do with the operator or the characteristics of the operator.

Now obviously I've gotten a wrong impression, so I wish you could refer me to the public information that states it WILL NOT work if the operator has certain characteristics or attributes. And, what about members of your immediate family? A son, a daughter or perhaps your wife? Maybe a sister or brother, aunt or uncle. Have they also been determined to be biologically impaired?

Also, I'm really surprised that forum members in your immediate area would not be willing to give it a try. Unfortunate indeed. If I was that close, you can bet I would have tried it.

Thanks for the update....


hi Theseus

a long time, it hangs.
I tried yesterday, where a very wet much, I received an incorrect signal.
little thing, turned to the left.
was better, now does not find the stone.
What do you suggest?


good work. osman
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:45 PM
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[quote = Theseus; 107.906] Ben burada yapıcı bir şey sunmak istiyorum. Sizinle benim için (ve herkesten yardımcı olabilir) tam olarak ne demek istediğinizi açıklayan başlayabileceğini ... ve nasıl belirlenir .... were you biyolojik engelli? Ne, tam olarak normal biyolojik sinyaller? Standart bir L alabilir miyim-hedefler düz görme yanıt için çubuk? I can, ve çok az olan tepkisi bu tür can't get bulduk. Belki de bahsediyorsun sen cevap değil ... Beni aydınlatmak edebilirsiniz.

Orada RT o I've seen reklam farklıdır alınan bilgi bir şey olmalıdır. Ben Examiner KESİNLİKLE bir elektronik cihaz, böylece her türlü reaksiyonlar operatörü veya operatörün özellikleri ile ilgisi vardı izlenim altındaydı.

Şimdi açıkça ben de size genel bilgiler eğer operatör bazı özellikleri veya özniteliklerine devletlerin o değil iş OLACAKTIR beni bakın isterdim yanlış bir izlenim gotten ettik. Ve sizin yakın aile üyeleri ne olacak? Bir oğlu, bir kızı ya da belki senin karın? Belki bir kız veya erkek kardeşi, halası veya amcası. Onlar da belirlenmiştir biyolojik engelli mi?

Ayrıca, ben gerçekten sizin yakın bölgede forum üyeleri bunu denemeye istekli olmayacağını şaşırttı. Gerçekten Unfortunate. Eğer bu yakın olduğunu, bunu denedim olurdu bahse girebilirsiniz.

Güncelleme için teşekkürler ....[/ quote]

[quote = osman; 107.908]hi Theseus

uzun bir süre, duruyor. Dün, burada çok fazla ıslak, ben yanlış bir sinyal aldı çalıştı.
küçük şey, sola döndü.
daha iyi, şimdi taş bulamaz oldu.
Ne tavsiye edersiniz?

iyi iş. osman[/ quote]


merhaba resim eklemek değil thesus.
bahsediyorum.lütfen yardımdan goldbeam
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