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Old 12-10-2010, 01:29 PM
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You are correct and I state that fact on my site. But that does not stop me from using a generator. It's my choice.

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Since(*) you are a dealer and manufacturer of those pseudoscience items, it might be a good idea if you always include some kind of disclaimer or statement of information stating that the "ring theory" and associated ideas are pure conjecture on your part. That way innocent folks, not knowing any better, will not come away with the notion these "rings" you talk about are based on scientific fact.

(*) since; Incidentally, in almost every instance, in your writing, and the text on your site, you mis-spell - or interchange the word "sense", when in fact you really mean "since". At first, I thought it was just a random error, but the frequency with which you do it indicates either you really don't know the difference between the two words (just because they sound similar) or you really don't know how to spell the correct word. In either case, whenever you are trying to sell a product or write a "position paper", the credibility of the writer will always suffer if they constantly display poor grammar and spelling practices. (Here is your most recent example; "I've been doing this sense 1985 and have...") Take Art for example; his credibility is zero, due almost entirely from poor writing skills, being repeatedly caught fabricating false info and accusations and in general making a complete fool of himself. Very sad... Even if he had something of a worthwhile contribution, it is totally lost in his self-made labyrinth of obfuscation and willful deceit.
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:29 PM
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:34 PM
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Evening theseus: You posted -->That is pure pseudo or wish science, and has never been validated by conventional measuring instruments.
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and just what are you measureing and with what conventional instruments?

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Old 12-11-2010, 02:13 AM
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Evening theseus: You posted -->That is pure pseudo or wish science, and has never been validated by conventional measuring instruments.
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and just what are you measureing and with what conventional instruments?

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Ummm...
We all know that Theseus uses conventional instruments to measure things.
What things? I don't know.
But I do know he uses instruments to measure them on account of he told stories about his years of experience in the testing industry.
If you can't believe what Theseus says about his testing experience, then what can you believe? ... HungScience?

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Old 12-11-2010, 11:41 AM
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I know why many can't see how lrl's work. I understand completely. I started out in 1985 to prove the same. I saw that there was more to this. I just got word that a cement vault was located using the lrl500. Many will say that's chance. They are clearing the vault and do have metal inside. Not to further rule out chance how deep would you dig if you were that person? 3 ft how about 80 ft! This is why I say they work. Because there's no way you can walk across the face of the earth and point to the ground and say dig here. That would be chance!
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:58 AM
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I know why many can't see how lrl's work. I understand completely. I started out in 1985 to prove the same. I saw that there was more to this. I just got word that a cement vault was located using the lrl500. Many will say that's chance. They are clearing the vault and do have metal inside. Not to further rule out chance how deep would you dig if you were that person? 3 ft how about 80 ft! This is why I say they work. Because there's no way you can walk across the face of the earth and point to the ground and say dig here. That would be chance!
Many can't see how LRLs work because the theory is so lame, it makes you sick to the stomach. Others can't see how LRLs work because they have seen the insides of these gimmicks, and nothing in there can physically cause a specimen to resonate.

Tim...I honestly can't believe you are so gullible that you actually believe someone found a cement vault that was NOT constructed of metal. Dollars to doughnuts...this cement vault is located in the Philippines. Add to those doughnuts...and the Filipino treasure hunters cannot break open the Japanese cement.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:04 PM
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Jim don't be upset because a find like this is against your belief system. I'm just saying there are people that use lrl's and are happy. I can tell by your post you know this was not chance. Jim your missing the point 80 ft deep! An anomaly was found using the lrl500 at 80 foot deep.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:39 PM
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I know why many can't see how lrl's work. I understand completely. I started out in 1985 to prove the same. I saw that there was more to this. I just got word that a cement vault was located using the lrl500. Many will say that's chance. They are clearing the vault and do have metal inside. Not to further rule out chance how deep would you dig if you were that person? 3 ft how about 80 ft! This is why I say they work. Because there's no way you can walk across the face of the earth and point to the ground and say dig here. That would be chance!
Hi Tim,
That's an interesting story.
If a dowser told me he located something with metal in it at a certain location, I would stop digging after maybe 5 feet. Then if he insisted it is there, I might dig a couple more feet just to make sure I didn't miss it by a few inches. Then I would go home and conclude I got suckered into digging an empty hole where a dowser said there was metal. I would be thinking that if I dug enough miles into the ground, I would eventually hit iron at the core of the earth, but I could find this iron without a dowser.

But this is a story about a treasure hunt where they continued digging to 80 feet and did find something. It sounds unusual for a dowsing story. The part that seems fairly usual is it is a dowsing/LRL recovery story that nobody seems to know much about, and will probably be kept secret in order to conceal who found the vault, where they found it, and what is inside it.
Or maybe not.
Is there any more information about the vault or what is inside it?

A second question that comes to mind is how did they dig an 80 foot hole?
Depending on the soil, a vertical shaft 80 feet deep can be very dangerous unless they used shoring, or dug it maybe as a crater 160 feet diameter?

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Old 12-11-2010, 01:49 PM
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Hi Tim,
That's an interesting story.
If a dowser told me he located something with metal in it at a certain location, I would stop digging after maybe 5 feet. Then if he insisted it is there, I might dig a couple more feet just to make sure I didn't miss it by a few inches. Then I would go home and conclude I got suckered into digging an empty hole where a dowser said there was metal. I would be thinking that if I dug enough miles into the ground, I would eventually hit iron at the core of the earth, but I could find this iron without a dowser.

But this is a story about a treasure hunt where they continued digging to 80 feet and did find something. It sounds unusual for a dowsing story. The part that seems fairly usual is it is a dowsing/LRL recovery story that nobody seems to know much about, and will probably be kept secret in order to conceal who found the vault, where they found it, and what is inside it.
Or maybe not.
Is there any more information about the vault or what is inside it?

A second question that comes to mind is how did they dig an 80 foot hole?
Depending on the soil, a vertical shaft 80 feet deep can be very dangerous unless they used shoring, or dug it maybe as a crater 160 feet diameter?

Best wishes,
J_P
J_P I can't say much about it yet. I requested pictures. If I get permission to release more info I will have a page on my site and post here also. The only reason I said anything about it is because people do use my equipment and are locating. I know it's not proven to work by science. I know it does not make sense. Yet it happens.
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