H3Tec discussion

[Art3811]

~JP~
I see,
Maybe this is why I don't bother to read the TNet LRL forum.
It is full of lies and whining about who's lying and who's not, but little or no real information worth reading.
It is kind of like reading pages full of a bunch of nothing.
I think Carl said it best: "I dearly wish you would waste your time on TNet rather than here. Unlike some of the other LRL advocates, you bring absolutely nothing to the party".

I suppose if a person loves lies, the TNet LRL forum could be fascinating reading with stars such as Art.

Read and weep…The brass ring made it easy to lead him into making a $25,000 mistake..Art
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.msg2376634.html#msg2376634

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

good morning WM-6: you stated --> This most sensitive receiver even do not can be trained to receive dangerous and strong earthquake warning signals
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First, regarding earthquake Frequencies etc., who says that they cannot?? Many, if not all, of the other mobile forms of life do react to them, as well as to others that the human is not notmally receptive to.

What hunan can detect aother of the opposite sex from miles away?? Many insects and animals can. The.lowly moth is one example.
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You also posted -->Or you mean that receiver was during evolution someway tunned to gold signals?
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Obvously no, but then where do the Au frequencies lie? as far as I know within the trainable range of the brain. Ultra low. After all, we are quite capable of descriminating between individual specimans of gold.

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You also posted --> Why do evolution need for human to be skilled such way? ************

None especially for a certain mineral or metal, that I know of, but since it probably lies within the receptible range, why not utilize it?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exsit".

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Art3811

Read and weep…The brass ring made it easy to lead him into making a $25,000 mistake..Art
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.msg2376634.html#msg2376634

Originally Posted by Carl - on TNET

This is the very test I would like to see you do, but under randomized blind conditions.

Perhaps it was the part in Carl's post that was marked in bold and underlined that you managed to miss with your highly tuned psychic senses.

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Hi, one of my usual boo booos. The 'ultra low' in the last post was in reference to earthquakes, not Au. apol.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exsist".

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by hung

If gravity travels at the speed of light, how do black holes have gravity, since their escape velocities are faster than the speed of light?

Surely Hung, a man of your intellect must know the answer to this apparent conumdrum.

The General Theory of Relativity allows for the gravity of a black hole to be felt outside of it.

The gravity doesn't have to get out of the black hole. General relativity is a local theory, which means that the field at a certain point in spacetime is determined entirely by things going on at places that can communicate with it at speeds less than or equal to c. If a star collapses into a black hole, the gravitational field outside the black hole may be calculated entirely from the properties of the star and its external gravitational field before it becomes a black hole. In this sense the black hole is a kind of "frozen star": the gravitational field is a fossil field. The same is true of the electromagnetic field that a black hole may possess.

Often your question is phrased in terms of gravitons, the hypothetical quanta of spacetime distortion. If things like gravity correspond to the exchange of "particles" like gravitons, how can they get out of the event horizon to do their job?

Gravitons don't exist in general relativity, because GR is not a quantum theory. Gravitons might be part of a theory of quantum gravity when it is completely developed, but even then it might not be best to describe gravitational attraction as produced by virtual gravitons.

Nevertheless, the question in this form is still worth asking, because black holes can have static electric fields, and we know that these may be described in terms of virtual photons. So how do the virtual photons get out of the event horizon? Well, for one thing, they can come from the charged matter prior to collapse, just like classical effects. In addition, virtual particles can go faster than light! Consequently the event horizon, which is really just a surface that moves at the speed of light, presents no barrier to virtual particles.

[Aziz]

Well,

I have a bloody good competitive DIY el-ar-el device for you:
It's outperforming the H3Tech in these cold days however.

You need:
- thermometer
- L shaped wire
- fresh and warm horse sh1t

Take the fresh horse sh1t in your hands. Stick the L rod into the horse sh1t. Stick the thermometer into the horse sh1t as well. Keep attention to the temperature. If the temperature is exactly reading 36.4 °C, then the el-ar-el device is engaged and ready for operation (detection distance at least 100 km). If the temperature is above 36.4 degree C, wait until it is exactly 36.4 degree C (otherwise it will overdrive the el-ar-el device). Below 35.1 degree C, the detection distance suffers a bit (reduced to 10 km). Below 31.1 degree C, you need fresh horse sh1t again.

Some scientists claim, that it will very likely operate with bull sh1t as well. But this claim isn't proofed yet.

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

HI, will fresh burro or a lovely. sexy mule's feces work also?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Saturna]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

HI, will fresh burro or a lovely. sexy mule's feces work also?

Don Jose de La Mancha

Why not ? Seems to dovetail quite nicely with the other ideas you propose.

[hung]

Gravity does not exist as it's sensed.
It's a group of phenomena and not only an individualized force.
It's better explained by the difference in density of bodies. If a body is less dense, there is no gravity that stops it from going up. And the Earth's ethereal layer determines this effect. Also, it's the vertical compoment of magnetism that influences 'gravity'. The atraction it exerts over a body is about the same it does over any other body, thus allowing observation of the same falling speed in vacuum. Only this atraction is not caused by its mass. It's caused by the magnetism every single body pocess.

Remember, light repels matter. One similar occurence of what happens to it in black holes is what was observed by Eddington in 1919 during the Solar eclipse and was comented by Einstein.
But trully, light curved not due to the solar mass, but due to the magnetic field which is zero close to the Sun.
General Relativity is full of holes to effectivelly explain what is going on with black holes. One example. It postulates that if two radii happen to move in a same direction, similar speeds, speed will be zero among them. But if they move in opposite directions, the relative speed will be v+v or 2v.
Einstein stated that if any of the radii move in any direction, their correspondent speeds will be v.
This is false since he atributed a particular, 'proprietary' space and time for each other. He tried to impose limitations for the universe which is infinitum. Space that is not transformed is shapeless and is not relative to anything.
Standard model nonsense... If space is a constant, how can be there any space time continuum and worse, to consider this to be a dimension...

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

allo sat, in the corner: You posted --> Why not ? Seems to dovetail quite nicely with the other ideas you propose.
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I must admit to staying on subject, and in line with the popular exchange in here, however -----.

Speaking of the subject on hand, I notice that you haven't been posting your usual remarks. why not???

Incidentally, haven't you ever used that materiel fresh from the source to thaw out your hands enough to light a fire? Brrrrrr

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Art3811

Read and weep…The brass ring made it easy to lead him into making a $25,000 mistake..Art
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,327684.msg2376634.html#msg2376634

Hmmm...
Hi Art,
I guess you still haven't learned. Your lies won't work in Geotech.
The links you posted are also lies.
Let's take a look at what you are calling a $25,000 mistake. Let's see what Carl actually said in the TNet forum about his prize:

1. CARL: "Art, why would you call your test a fake? You claim that when you step on a silver coin, your rods will cross every time. This is the very test I would like to see you do, but under randomized blind conditions. $25,000 for doing what you say you can do".
2. ART: "Yes I have said that I can do it every time. So can millions of Dowsers. So tell the membership why anyone should show you anything...."
3. CARL: "I don't think you can.
$25,000."
4. ART: "Darn Carl…I made a movie that showed me following the signals to a target. I showed myself marking the target. It showed me digging the target…Wow a new shiny silver dollar…You just saw it happen for free…I know you are not going to get many takers for a mere 2 ½ oz of gold.."
3. CARL: "You also posted a doctored picture of a gold pan, so I can't trust that you're videos aren't faked as well.
Show me in person. Do what you say you can do. No alibis.
$25,000".

That includes all the posts Carl made about his $25,000 prize in the link you showed.
So where is his mistake?

Are you telling another lie in Geotech?
It won't work!

We are not as stupid as you are, and we do not have any need to take anything Carl said out of context, or omit how he said he wanted to see your rods cross every time when you step on the silver dollar, in person, under randomized blind conditions.

Think about it.
I have never seen that thread before ever.
Yet I see Carl has posted exactly what I told you in my post above where I exposed you as a liar who makes fake talk and fake images to post in forums.

In the link you show, Carl never said he would pay you any money if you produced a film showing your rods cross when you step on a coin.
Carl posted: "You also posted a doctored picture of a gold pan, so I can't trust that you're videos aren't faked as well.

Show me in person. Do what you say you can do. No alibis.

$25,000"."
Again, exactly as I told you... You have no reason to wait for prize money because you never took Carl's test.
You never found coins that Carl hid, so you have no prize money coming.
You made a video instead of actually taking a randomized blind test, and now you are whining and telling lies about what Carl offered.

If you include all of Carl's words instead of only the words you want others to hear, you will see it is no longer possible to post a lie.
Scroll up and read how Carl said "You claim that when you step on a silver coin, your rods will cross every time. This is the very test I would like to see you do, but under randomized blind conditions. $25,000 for doing what you say you can do". That is the truth of what Carl actually posted. He did not post the lie you are accusing him of.

Do you still think a Geotech engineer is as stupid as you are?
Do you really think we don't know you have a chronic problem that causes you to "doctor" the things you see other people write, and images you post in forums?
Do you really believe a Geotech engineer won't check to see if you are serving us up more lies and BS?

Why not take your crap back to TNet where people don't expect you to be prepared to get challenged when you make extraordinary claims that turn out to be lies you crafted from out of context segments of sentences other people wrote? It appears there are people who actually like to read the stuff you write at TNet.

Best wishes,
J_P

P.S. Same new hint:
Get therapy to learn to stop taking things out of context. Learn to tell the truth.
Learn to see things for what they are, not what you wish to craft them into.
There are therapists who can do wonders. You could become a better person.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Well,

I have a bloody good competitive DIY el-ar-el device for you:
It's outperforming the H3Tech in these cold days however.

You need:
- thermometer
- L shaped wire
- fresh and warm horse sh1t

Take the fresh horse sh1t in your hands. Stick the L rod into the horse sh1t. Stick the thermometer into the horse sh1t as well. Keep attention to the temperature. If the temperature is exactly reading 36.4 °C, then the el-ar-el device is engaged and ready for operation (detection distance at least 100 km). If the temperature is above 36.4 degree C, wait until it is exactly 36.4 degree C (otherwise it will overdrive the el-ar-el device). Below 35.1 degree C, the detection distance suffers a bit (reduced to 10 km). Below 31.1 degree C, you need fresh horse sh1t again.

Some scientists claim, that it will very likely operate with bull sh1t as well. But this claim isn't proofed yet.

Hi Aziz,

can you guarantee that your LRL innovation work on all continnets?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by hung

Gravity does not exist as it's sensed.
It's a group of phenomena and not only an individualized force.
It's better explained by the difference in density of bodies. If a body is less dense, there is no gravity that stops it from going up. And the Earth's ethereal layer determines this effect. Also, it's the vertical compoment of magnetism that influences 'gravity'. The atraction it exerts over a body is about the same it does over any other body, thus allowing observation of the same falling speed in vacuum. Only this atraction is not caused by its mass. It's caused by the magnetism every single body pocess.

Did you think of the [logical] possibility that the denser bodies displace the less dense ones and thus lower their potential energy? A helium filled balloon rises in the atmosphere because the denser atoms displace it. This upward drift continues until: A- the balloon explodes. B- Density of the balloon is in equilibrium with its surroundings.

Originally Posted by hung

Remember, light repels matter. One similar occurence of what happens to it in black holes is what was observed by Eddington in 1919 during the Solar eclipse and was comented by Einstein.

There is no known physics that describes what happens inside a black hole.

"Light repels matter" You mean radiation pressure? Yes, but it is not a repulsion like two like magnetic poles or charges repelling each other. What is happening with light is that momentum is transferred between the photons and the matter they impact.

Originally Posted by hung

But trully, light curved not due to the solar mass, but due to the magnetic field which is zero close to the Sun.

Says who?

Originally Posted by hung

General Relativity is full of holes to effectivelly explain what is going on with black holes. ...

GR may have holes, but the holes are not as big as the holes in your theories.

No physics is capable of describing what goes on inside a black hole.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Rudy

No physics is capable of describing what goes on inside a black hole.

Except Hung Physics.

[Aziz]

Originally Posted by WM6

Hi Aziz,

can you guarantee that your LRL innovation work on all continnets?

Well,

I can guarantee you, that it will work as well as all other el-ar-el devices. But my innovation has one knock-out feature: it keeps your hands warm while detecting.

Second knock-out feature: you don't have to pay $$$$$$$

Third knock-out feature: it's made of sh1t like other el-ar-ed devices. My innovation makes it only obvious visible.

Like all el-ar-el devices, they are based on horse/bull-sh1t. It taste's and smells like horse/bull-sh1t.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Well,

I can guarantee you, that it will work as well as all other el-ar-el devices. But my innovation has one knock-out feature: it keeps your hands warm while detecting.

Second knock-out feature: you don't have to pay $$$$$$$

Third knock-out feature: it's made of sh1t like other el-ar-ed devices. My innovation makes it only obvious visible.

Like all el-ar-el devices, they are based on horse/bull-sh1t. It taste's and smells like horse/bull-sh1t.

Hi Aziz,

Your experimental el-ar-el seems to have advantages that others don't have:
It has the hand-warming effect, and it seems to be exactly what it looks like, smells like, and tastes like. (Not sure about the taste like part, cause I never conducted a taste test).
I also see you don't have to pay $$$, and you have a guarantee.

I have discovered another LRL you can buy for under $100 which does not have the advantage of hand-warming, but it also seems to be exactly what it looks like it is.
In fact it is called exactly what it is.
But the best part is it has a guarantee that your el-ar-el does not have.... it is the only LRL I have ever found that is guaranteed to pass a double blind test or money back.
The question is: would you pay under $100 for this LRL, or would you prefer to use the horse sh1t method?





It seems tempting, doesn't it?

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Hi J_P


it is time to do some improvement to The Amazing Mr. Stick.

What do you think to upgrade it by graphic calculator?

Look a little, how they do competitors.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by WM6

Hi J_P


it is time to do some improvement to The Amazing Mr. Stick.

What do you think to upgrade it by graphic calculator?

Look a little, how they do competitors.

I have talked to the producers of the amazing Mr. Stick. They tell me there is no calculator upgrade coming.
But they say a new model will be released that allows a swiveling action, called the Mr. Roller.
They say the new, improved Mr. Roller will also be guaranteed to pass a double blind comparison test the same as the Mr. Stick.
I was able to ascertain that the new, improved Mr. Roller will utilize some article of painting equipment.

See prototype at the test facility below:



I can't wait until it comes out.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Did you think of the [logical] possibility that the denser bodies displace the less dense ones and thus lower their potential energy? A helium filled balloon rises in the atmosphere because the denser atoms displace it. This upward drift continues until: A- the balloon explodes. B- Density of the balloon is in equilibrium with its surroundings.



There is no known physics that describes what happens inside a black hole.

"Light repels matter" You mean radiation pressure? Yes, but it is not a repulsion like two like magnetic poles or charges repelling each other. What is happening with light is that momentum is transferred between the photons and the matter they impact.

Says who?

GR may have holes, but the holes are not as big as the holes in your theories.

No physics is capable of describing what goes on inside a black hole.

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Except Hung Physics.

What..!!!!?
Dr. hung is teaching physics now in the HungScience university?
Are you sure he isn't vomiting out this diatribe from a secret bunker hidden somewhere in his back yard?
Or maybe he copied it from Myron Evans website, or Tom Bearden's?

I wonder why Dr. Hung would claim other people don't know what gravity is?
It seems to me that even a person who never goes to school can easily detect the direction of gravity with good precision when using a dowsing rod.
And no.... the direction we find the force of gravity is not where a hidden treasure is, the direction is down, toward the center of the earth.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

See prototype at the test facility below:

I can't wait until it comes out.

Great, incorporation a swiveling function in Mr. Stick would be an histerical achievement in field of LRL.

As I can see on picture new Mr. Stick can very easy compensate hard rock too.

Hope that this big improvement will not take bad infuelence in price policy?

And I hope that production will meet all market demand?

[Aziz]

Well,

I have a new invention. It should outperform all the existing el-ar-el devices. It is based on a revolutionary new laptop technology. No more rods, sticks, and so on. Simple to use. This is the prototype (see below). I'm working on the gravity anomaly feature now. So any black holes in our galaxy will extend it's detection distance to some revolutionary range: lightyear distances.
Watch out! I have found that it could probably detect dark matter too. Maybe the next revision could support DMNMR mode (dark matter nano magnetic resonance).

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Well,

I have a new invention.

Watch out! I have found that it could probably detect dark matter too. Maybe the next revision could support DMNMR mode (dark matter nano magnetic resonance).

Fantastic, but "Disturb other El-Ar-El devices" function seems not working?

Can this function be upgraded to "Destroy other El-Ar-El devices"?

[Aziz]

Originally Posted by WM6

Fantastic, but "Disturb other El-Ar-El devices" function seems not working?

Can this function be upgraded to "Destroy other El-Ar-El devices"?

Well, this feature is working so well, that it has an impact to the detector itself. So don't use this feature until I have solved the problem.

The other feature won't be implemented. I haven't the licence to develop weapons yet. I suspect, I won't get a licence due to my name: it's reading like an arab terrorist.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by J_Player

...
I wonder why Dr. Hung would claim other people don't know what gravity is?

This is a very grave situation indeed.

[hung]

You are a perfect example of the people who has some understanding of science but is unable to think beyond the books they learned at school, also accepting certain things as true without even questioning what it really means.

Originally Posted by Rudy

Did you think of the [logical] possibility that the denser bodies displace the less dense ones and thus lower their potential energy? A helium filled balloon rises in the atmosphere because the denser atoms displace it. This upward drift continues until: A- the balloon explodes. B- Density of the balloon is in equilibrium with its surroundings.

Being helium of less density, it rises and expands indefinetly only to be stoped by the atmospheric mass and pressure which surrounds our planet. There is also another factor which influences gravity besides the ones I have already pointed. It's the energy which exerts pressure in the universe and enters, penetrates the galaxies. This pressure is the result of the 'creator's vibration' over an infinite point within the universe and maintains the atmosphere of all planets. And this is very easy to understand.
If no constant pressure existed to maintain the 'gaseous cap' that surrounds every Planet, it would expand itself to the vacuum as again, gases pocess the tendency to expand indefinetely.
Remember Torricelli? He did not come up with the conclusion that atmospheric pressure over a given surface is 13.6g X 76cm of the mercury column for nothing. But this pressure is only perceived at sea level. For each 10 meters of elevation, the column drops 1 milimeter. So, theoretically, at 76KM high, there should be no pressure anymore! But aerial currents were observed in variable altitudes. If these currents did not existed you would be smashed by the huge atmospheric pressure.

There is no known physics that describes what happens inside a black hole.

Known by you.

"Light repels matter" You mean radiation pressure? Yes, but it is not a repulsion like two like magnetic poles or charges repelling each other. What is happening with light is that momentum is transferred between the photons and the matter they impact.

No.
It's a repulsion. If there were no repulsion between energy and magnetism, motors would not turn for instance. This same repulsion act in the nebulae. Light repels the magnetic fields, so the 'multitude' of stars from several galaxies provide a great repulsive force in the nebulae's matter making them 'escape' fom each other.
Think. It's known that light weights right? This weight is nothing more than pressure that it exerts over matter. If the Sun attracted, its light would have no weight, but an opposite agent.
If only an atraction force existed, but no repulsion at all, our little planet would come against its own atraction point.
And before you bark that centrifugal force is the cause for this repulsion, Earth would make a spiral smashing itself to the point of atraction.
No, it's not I who state this. It's our friend Math.

Says who?

The universe.

GR may have holes, but the holes are not as big as the holes in your theories.
No physics is capable of describing what goes on inside a black hole.

This is very interesting.
You and some others here, seem to comprehend electronics and physics to some extent. Actually there are no genius among us. We are just human beings who keep learning as we go along.
But there is a difference between you people and some of us. Note that I include others here.
You people think that the amount of physics you know accounts sufficiently to explain everything INCLUDING WHAT CANNOT BE.
This is stupid. This is idiotic. And this only accounts for the IGNORANCE that reigns here.It should exactly be the opposite. You and others here should be the first ones to state and admit honestly that you are not able to make afirmations about certain apparently unexplained phenomena because the physics you know cannot explain.
This would be the honest man position. But no. You try to deny the color TV simply because a B&W set is all you got.
Long range detection of metals is so simple. So silly. Yet you pose this subject as something supernatural.
Poor fellas.

Evolution is happening right now for all quanta beings in this planet, whether you like it or not.
Evolving is an unstoppable process inherent to all beings in this planet.
And this also includes you pal.