getting rid of the rods

[g-sani]

I am really really happy that Mike(Mont) took over explaining things.
I am sure he knows what he is talking about since I compare things whith what I know myself up to now.The thing whith such issues is to be able to give others to understand and myself I am not that good yet as Mike(Mont) is.
He said that:

......the nervous system picks up a much wider range of frequencies than the five senses. The mind has been programmed to ignore these. The hardest part of dowsing is to still the mind of these programs that limit your awareness. .......

and he also wrote that:

.......there is a balance that the user feels when the rod aligns. Whether this is due completely to outside forces (force field), or the user senses the balance and reacts subconsciously, or a combination of the two (most likely) is up for conjecture. But for a non-dowser to state categorically that there is no effect is not accurate. I guess if they say it enough to themself they will believe it.

All these alone can give answers to what holds most people back from truth and from the way that treasure hunting should be approached.
I admit myself that I have seen holes in many places but I also admit that in such places most of the times if not always the valueables were left behind for dowsers to pick up.
It happened many times and still happening.I don't know if it is the ideomotor efect or whatever anybody wants to call it but I know very well that this way we came up whith finds that were impossible to be made whith any sophisticated or top of the range detector no matter the price tag.

Apart from all that Dowsing is not just using rods to find something and it took me quite some time for myself to understand.
This is only a very small practice of what can be done.

[Fred]

To accept the ideomotor effect as part of the detection process is a genius idea.This way the "principle" of detection can be questionned again (and again) on new basis, so a real explaination (?) will never show up.
Soon someone will claim that gravity is absolutely necessary too ,but in a secret way .

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-If it takes 12 minutes to dig a hole, how long would it take to dig half hole?

(This question was part of a Police academy exam.)

[Max]

Originally Posted by Fred

To accept the ideomotor effect as part of the detection process is a genius idea.This way the "principle" of detection can be questionned again (and again) on new basis, so a real explaination (?) will never show up.
Soon someone will claim that gravity is absolutely necessary too ,but in a secret way .

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-If it takes 12 minutes to dig a hole, how long would it take to dig half hole?

(This question was part of a Police academy exam.)

The cubic root of 12 ?

So... about 2 minutes and 20 seconds!

Are you a policeman!?

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

hi Max,

Originally Posted by Max

The cubic root of 12 ?
So... about 2 minutes and 20 seconds!

Hi Max ,
Don´t forget, that was for policemen,not rocket scientists!
The answer was : "there is no such thing as half a hole"....haha .

Originally Posted by Max

Are you a policeman!?

No! Just electronics...
Regards,
Fred.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by g-sani

I am really really happy that Mike(Mont) took over explaining things.
I am sure he knows what he is talking about .....

Stating that something is "common sense", or "obvious", are ridiculous statements when applied to dowsing. In fact, it is "common sense" that dowsing is a trick of the mind, and "obvious" that Mike (Mont) doesn't know what he's talking about. Get the point?

Originally Posted by g-sani

......the nervous system picks up a much wider range of frequencies than the five senses. The mind has been programmed to ignore these. The hardest part of dowsing is to still the mind of these programs that limit your awareness. .......

You are wrong again. There are only 5 senses, despite what you would like to believe.

Originally Posted by g-sani

.......there is a balance that the user feels when the rod aligns. Whether this is due completely to outside forces (force field), or the user senses the balance and reacts subconsciously, or a combination of the two (most likely) is up for conjecture.

It is neither. The twitching of the rod is all in the mind. There is no "outside force" controlling the rod, and no signal line.

Originally Posted by g-sani

All these alone can give answers to what holds most people back from truth and from the way that treasure hunting should be approached.

Dream on .....

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Fred

To accept the ideomotor effect as part of the detection process is a genius idea.This way the "principle" of detection can be questionned again (and again) on new basis, so a real explaination (?) will never show up.

Hmmmm... Now, this brings up some embarrassing questions...

If all this ideamotor stuff is true, then it must also be true for people who hold the single rods with the coil at the end. Yup, if L-rods work by ideamtor, then metal detectorists must also be subject to the ideamotor principle. Sure, the people with metal detectors sometimes dig empty holes, but this is obviously caused by the detectorist using his thought energy in an improper way so he can't feel the outside forces. But when he feels the balance, then the rod of the metal detector points in the direction of the target. Well, ok... I guess he swings it back and forth, but look at the direction he is walking. Isn't it in the direction of the treasures? Of course it is. If it wasn't, then how would he ever find treasure? It now becomes perfectly clear. The ideamotor principle finds all treasure. Metal detectors and electronic LRLs only pinpoint the target so we don't walk past it.

Want proof? Look here at all the treasure these detectorists found: http://www.findmall.com/list.php?26
You see? These detectorists are finding almost as much treasure as L-rod users. And to think... they all thought it was the detector finding the treasure!

Now detectorists as well as L-rod users can benefit from using a GSR meter to help them learn to align their rods and shafts with the lines of force from the signal line until they feel the balance.

Originally Posted by Fred

Soon someone will claim that gravity is absolutely necessary too ,but in a secret way .

The secret revealed why gravity is necessary:
Gravity is necessary for L-rods as well as for metal detectors. Otherwise it would be too hard to stay attached to the ground while looking for the treasure. You would keep blowing away from where you wanted to walk.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Originally Posted by J_Player

The ideamotor principle finds all treasure. Metal detectors and electronic LRLs only pinpoint the target so we don't walk past it.

Originally Posted by J_Player

...You would keep blowing away from where you wanted to walk.Best wishes,J_P

Or, everyone holding a rod would be sucked by "the Force" to the place where the treasure is , so there would be enormous piles of people trying to dig , but each time their showels hit the ground they would be ejected in space...