$5,000 Coat Hangers vs Metal Dector Challenge

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Gold Detector Verses Dowsing Rod

I will challenge any gold hunter using an electronic detector, against my two coat hangers. How confident am I? $5,000. The challenge: a third party will hide a small gold nugget somewhere on a football field, placing it two inches deep by pounding a wooden rod into the ground. The first to uncover the gold nugget is the winner. The event will be video tapped. Email me if you are up to the challenge

http://www.dowselikeapro.com/My_Blog.html

Ok lets do it.
BUT THE GOLD AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD MUST PICKED BY SOMEONE WE DON'T KNOW AND IT MUST BE DOCIMENTED, YES IT MUST BE VIDEO TAPE.
THE GOLD SHOULD BE 1 oz bar.
I will use my XLPRO with a big foot coil in the all metal mode.
I WILL FIND THE 1OZ BAR AT 2 INCH FAST
PLUS WHO FINDS THE BAR KEEPS IT.
LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS OK WITH YOU.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Ok lets do it.
BUT THE GOLD AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD MUST PICKED BY SOMEONE WE DON'T KNOW AND IT MUST BE DOCIMENTED, YES IT MUST BE VIDEO TAPE.
THE GOLD SHOULD BE 1 oz bar.
I will use my XLPRO with a big foot coil in the all metal mode.
I WILL FIND THE 1OZ BAR AT 2 INCH FAST
PLUS WHO FINDS THE BAR KEEPS IT.
LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS OK WITH YOU.

I suggest open field, not known location for you and Dell till both you reach the place, and as preference a desert like place... no reference points...
just four markers to signal the limits of the search field... and preferable all must be the same at ground level... e.g. uniform sand and nothing more than sand!
Then you can choose a dimension for search field like a football field... that have sense and I think Dell cannot complain if dimensions are the same.
If you're going to place a large item... like a gold bar... you must provide more depth for it... cause don't wanna people walk over it with 1'' of sand over and detect it by his foot!

If you accept or wanna make like Dell described you or the third party can be easily fooled in the way I explained.

Let the third party make the field where he wants to... then after he prepared anything you and Dell will play the big game...

PS: a good rule will be that people must have a fixed number of attempts to signal/mark a point and dig, say e.g. 10 and if make the 10th and don't find the stuff he lose.

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Max

...If you're going to place a large item... like a gold bar... you must provide more depth for it... cause don't wanna people walk over it with 1'' of sand over and detect it by his foot!

.....PS: a good rule will be that people must have a fixed number of attempts to signal/mark a point and dig, say e.g. 10 and if make the 10th and don't find the stuff he lose. x

Whoaaa...! This spoils the whole contest...
How can Dell find the target if he does not dig at least 500 holes, one for each signal he gets? Wasn't that his strategy? To quickly dig hundreds of empty holes until he finds the target? It would take way too long to do this if he had to dig hundreds of holes more than 2 inches deep.

Hmmmm... I don't see anything in the rules that says you can't use a D9 bull dozer to recover the target. Anyone who has a D9 could quickly announce "I found it".... then proceed to scrape the top few inches off the surface of the test field and pile it into a mound, where it is then screened to collect the target.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Whoaaa...! This spoils the whole contest...
How can Dell find the target if he does not dig at least 500 holes, one for each signal he gets? Wasn't that his strategy? To quickly dig hundreds of empty holes until he finds the target? It would take way too long to do this if he had to dig hundreds of holes more than 2 inches deep.

Hmmmm... I don't see anything in the rules that says you can't use a D9 bull dozer to recover the target. Anyone who has a D9 could quickly announce "I found it".... then proceed to scrape the top few inches off the surface of the test field and pile it into a mound, where it is then screened to collect the target.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hmmm
I think the D9 based remote sensing is not that smart...

But isn't Dell going to use coat hangers to locate stuff ???

Cause if he starts digging like a crazy dog is not that smart remote sensing detectorist...

10 attempts are enough! One will mark the place and start to dig under control of one observer... the diameter of hole must be also defined by rules... e.g. max 16'' or you will lose...



Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Max

Hmmm
I think the D9 based remote sensing is not that smart...
But isn't Dell going to use coat hangers to locate stuff ???

10 attempts are enough! One will mark the place and start to dig under control of one observer... the diameter of hole must be also defined by rules... e.g. max 16'' or you will lose...

Sure you use coat hangers to locate the treasure. This is done in about 1 second. Then take out the D9 only for recovering the treasure. This is done in about 3 hours, by scraping the top 4 inches off the test field and dumping it into a shaker screen that will separate the sand from the larger stuff -- same as the sand scoops beach detectorists use for recovering coins and jewelry. Since there is no rule in this contest for size or shape of the hole, this is a good method for recovery. You dig a hole the size of the test field and 6 inches deep, after locating the treasure in about 1 second. (maybe a 994 loader will work better to recover the target because you need lift up the dirt to dump it over the screens)...

So using a tractor for recovering treasure is really smart, because it can help to win the $5000 prize when recovering the treasure from the first hole dug. And it only cost about $500 for a day rental of a 994 with driver. After winning the prize, you can go to a real nice restaurant and buy dinner for yourself and the loser, and also you can buy a new metal detector to replace the coat hanger wires, and still have money to put in the bank when you get home.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Max

I suggest open field, not known location for you and Dell till both you reach the place, and as preference a desert like place... no reference points...
just four markers to signal the limits of the search field... and preferable all must be the same at ground level... e.g. uniform sand and nothing more than sand!
Then you can choose a dimension for search field like a football field... that have sense and I think Dell cannot complain if dimensions are the same.
If you're going to place a large item... like a gold bar... you must provide more depth for it... cause don't wanna people walk over it with 1'' of sand over and detect it by his foot!

If you accept or wanna make like Dell described you or the third party can be easily fooled in the way I explained.

Let the third party make the field where he wants to... then after he prepared anything you and Dell will play the big game...

PS: a good rule will be that people must have a fixed number of attempts to signal/mark a point and dig, say e.g. 10 and if make the 10th and don't find the stuff he lose.

Kind regards,
Max

Max that is very good,Dell let's do it in the sand the size of a football field. 6 inch deep a 1 oz bar.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Max that is very good,Dell let's do it in the sand the size of a football field. 6 inch deep a 1 oz bar.

Hi,
very good!

I hope Dell will accept this challenge and we'll see soon on YouTube!

I know who will win... hands down!

Kind regards,
Max