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[mehdi]

Now the the Persian factory can begin commercial production.
But we will not need to pay thousands of euros for a Persian copy of this metal locator, because we have the complete design here that we can build for maybe 20-25 euros.
J_P

J-P
be careful, you don't have permit to contempt to Iran.
your work is great and i am sure you are great man too, and i am sure you don't want to contempt to Iran, so please edit your post as soon as possible !!

[J_Player]

J-P
be careful, you don't have permit to contempt to Iran.
your work is great and i am sure you are great man too, and i am sure you don't want to contempt to Iran, so please edit your post as soon as possible !!

Hi Medhi,
I have no contempt for Iran.
From what I can see, Iran is among the best of the Arab nations.
Maybe Iran is the center of culture for the Middle East.
The reason why I think a Persian factory will want to make production of this design is because a forum member named Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue has sent me private messages to ask me to send schematics to him in exchange for money.
From what I can see, this person is pretending to be a female, and may have contacts in Dubai who want to help him to make big profits from LRL manufacturing.
My comments are not meant to show contempt for Iran.
My contempt is for people who make false representation of who they are and try to conceal their identity in order to make profits from the work that we do in this forum for the benefit of hobbyists.

We all know this forum is for hobbyists who want to experiment with LRL principles... not for factories to copy our work to make profits.
I have taken the precautions that I think are necessary to insure that anyone can build this PD project without paying large amounts of money to a factory who will make profits from the work that is done by hobbyists who contribute to this forum.

I can see that Iran is a very highly civilized country like other developed countries.
The only reason why you see the name of Persia in my post is because Persian is the language that Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue uses on his desktop when he makes translation to his posts to beg for us to send him more circuits for LRLs.

I know that mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue uses Farsi as his native language because this is the language he translates from his desktop.
mesy64 could be from Iran, or from the UK, or from USA, or from Germany, or any other place.
The country where he is from does not matter, because he still is a fake who uses several screen names and pretends to be a woman as mesyana to get us to send him more LRL schematics.
I can see that mesy64 has contributed nothing to help this forum develop a working LRL, but he has tried to offer me money to send him LRL circuit diagrams.
This makes me think he wants to make a commercial production of the work we do for hobbyists here.

I see other engineers from Persia who have contributed very good work for the hobbyists in this forum.
So I know the problem is not a problem that is caused by Iran...
It is a problem that is caused by a fake forum member named mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue.

Let us not think that Iran or any other country is to be held in contempt.
Only people who are making false representations of their person like mesy64 should be held in contempt.


Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Wow..

So far, I can see that VR1 (50K) and VR2 (100K) should not be put on the PCB.
This should be a full size 50K control pot that is mounted on the box where it is accessible for the treasure hunter to make adjustments in the field when needed.
If you added these as a board-set pot and a trimmer for the sensitivity, then they are a modification to the original design.
But maybe I have the wrong idea.
Can you tell why we see them on the board?

Hi J_P

this "on board" is only visual, there are enough solder point to solder wire leading to pots.

I do not intend to change something in original design (this is why I ask you for PCB dimensions). So fully agree that VR1 and VR2 are mounted on box panel not direct on PCB.

It was only more convenient, due PCB designer test limitation, if I put in schematic those pots on PCB, but in fact pots have to be mounted on box separately.

I checked design for errors - of course in design only, not through build one.

By the way: Persians do not belong Arabian nations, they are only "brothers in religion" (mostly Shiites).

[mehdi]

Hi Medhi,
I have no contempt for Iran.
From what I can see, Iran is among the best of the Arab nations.
Maybe Iran is the center of culture for the Middle East.
The reason why I think a Persian factory will want to make production of this design is because a forum member named Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue has sent me private messages to ask me to send schematics to him in exchange for money.
From what I can see, this person is pretending to be a female, and may have contacts in Dubai who want to help him to make big profits from LRL manufacturing.
My comments are not meant to show contempt for Iran.
My contempt is for people who make false representation of who they are and try to conceal their identity in order to make profits from the work that we do in this forum for the benefit of hobbyists.

We all know this forum is for hobbyists who want to experiment with LRL principles... not for factories to copy our work to make profits.
I have taken the precautions that I think are necessary to insure that anyone can build this PD project without paying large amounts of money to a factory who will make profits from the work that is done by hobbyists who contribute to this forum.

I can see that Iran is a very highly civilized country like other developed countries.
The only reason why you see the name of Persia in my post is because Persian is the language that Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue uses on his desktop when he makes translation to his posts to beg for us to send him more circuits for LRLs.

I know that mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue uses Farsi as his native language because this is the language he translates from his desktop.
mesy64 could be from Iran, or from the UK, or from USA, or from Germany, or any other place.
The country where he is from does not matter, because he still is a fake who uses several screen names and pretends to be a woman as mesyana to get us to send him more LRL schematics.
I can see that mesy64 has contributed nothing to help this forum develop a working LRL, but he has tried to offer me money to send him LRL circuit diagrams.
This makes me think he wants to make a commercial production of the work we do for hobbyists here.

I see other engineers from Persia who have contributed very good work for the hobbyists in this forum.
So I know the problem is not a problem that is caused by Iran...
It is a problem that is caused by a fake forum member named mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue.

Let us not think that Iran or any other country is to be held in contempt.
Only people who are making false representations of their person like mesy64 should be held in contempt.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J-P
please forgive me, maybe i don't understand exactly mean of your sentence.
BTW, good job for pd schematic. I will continue study this thread too.
best wishes
mehdi

[WM6]

WM6, with all respect, this is a very ugly design

Fred, probably you do not understand good LRL design rules. You need to take some design courses at dr. Hung.

[ma330]

Fred[/B];141435]Originally Posted by Fred
WM6, with all respect, this is a very ugly design

Fred, probably you do not understand good LRL design rules. You need to take some design courses at dr. Hung.

Wm6 is designed very well, fred.Designed with scientific principles.To avoid disturbance frequency should be a plan that is different from other circuits with metal detector.
This time I plan to pcb1:

[aft_72005]

Hi Medhi,
I have no contempt for Iran.
From what I can see, Iran is among the best of the Arab nations.
Maybe Iran is the center of culture for the Middle East.
The reason why I think a Persian factory will want to make production of this design is because a forum member named Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue has sent me private messages to ask me to send schematics to him in exchange for money.
From what I can see, this person is pretending to be a female, and may have contacts in Dubai who want to help him to make big profits from LRL manufacturing.
My comments are not meant to show contempt for Iran.
My contempt is for people who make false representation of who they are and try to conceal their identity in order to make profits from the work that we do in this forum for the benefit of hobbyists.

We all know this forum is for hobbyists who want to experiment with LRL principles... not for factories to copy our work to make profits.
I have taken the precautions that I think are necessary to insure that anyone can build this PD project without paying large amounts of money to a factory who will make profits from the work that is done by hobbyists who contribute to this forum.

I can see that Iran is a very highly civilized country like other developed countries.
The only reason why you see the name of Persia in my post is because Persian is the language that Mesy64/Mesyana/Jack Montana/Golden_Statue uses on his desktop when he makes translation to his posts to beg for us to send him more circuits for LRLs.

I know that mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue uses Farsi as his native language because this is the language he translates from his desktop.
mesy64 could be from Iran, or from the UK, or from USA, or from Germany, or any other place.
The country where he is from does not matter, because he still is a fake who uses several screen names and pretends to be a woman as mesyana to get us to send him more LRL schematics.
I can see that mesy64 has contributed nothing to help this forum develop a working LRL, but he has tried to offer me money to send him LRL circuit diagrams.
This makes me think he wants to make a commercial production of the work we do for hobbyists here.

I see other engineers from Persia who have contributed very good work for the hobbyists in this forum.
So I know the problem is not a problem that is caused by Iran...
It is a problem that is caused by a fake forum member named mesy64/mesyana/Jack/Golden_Statue.

Let us not think that Iran or any other country is to be held in contempt.
Only people who are making false representations of their person like mesy64 should be held in contempt.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_Player
I saying only for you more know about Iran .
Although living many Arab in Iran and most of them around Persian golf
But most of all Iranians aren't Arab.
Iran had culture with 12000 years old .
There are some companies in Iran and reproduced some famous metal detectors
As example pulse star 2, lorense 5, …. Under license from master company.
But there are other companies reproduced and copy metal detectors without
License from master company !!!!! for example TM 808 from ""whites "" company.
There are some company design and produce metal detectors , most of them
Use micro controllers in designs .
The person Mesy64 or other names need data , may be as you think for
Reproduced . may be …… may be…. But one things strange for me !!!!!
Why he or she use some difference nicknames in forum ???.
Best regards.

[WM6]

Excellent design ma330. Better than mine.

Can you post more clear picture with PCB part placement?

[ma330]

Excellent design ma330. Better than mine.

Can you post more clear picture with PCB part placement?

yes wm6 .I'll put you and other freinds Both the Plan
Circuit design in the smallest possible size(4*7cm).Check the circuit for error.
If you find an error please inform the problem
I put the original file attachments.
enjoy
Good luck

[J_Player]

Hi J_Player
I saying only for you more know about Iran .
Although living many Arab in Iran and most of them around Persian golf
But most of all Iranians aren't Arab.
Iran had culture with 12000 years old .
There are some companies in Iran and reproduced some famous metal detectors
As example pulse star 2, lorense 5, …. Under license from master company.
But there are other companies reproduced and copy metal detectors without
License from master company !!!!! for example TM 808 from ""whites "" company.
There are some company design and produce metal detectors , most of them
Use micro controllers in designs .
The person Mesy64 or other names need data , may be as you think for
Reproduced . may be …… may be…. But one things strange for me !!!!!
Why he or she use some difference nicknames in forum ???.
Best regards.

Hi aft_72005,
Yes, I know that Iran has a long and rich history.
This was the ancient Persia which was much larger than Iran today.
For mest64, I agree with you.
There is no reason why anyone should use fake names unless they have some secret mission.
For me, I want no part of any of the mesy64 or other fake names from mesyana.
I think it is good to ignore all attempts from mesy64 to beg for circuits.
This forum is for people who want to experiment with LRL principles, not for fake names to come and continue to ask for more circuits.

Thank you for your help with some good engineering in other threads.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

this "on board" is only visual, there are enough solder point to solder wire leading to pots.

I do not intend to change something in original design (this is why I ask you for PCB dimensions). So fully agree that VR1 and VR2 are mounted on box panel not direct on PCB.

It was only more convenient, due PCB designer test limitation, if I put in schematic those pots on PCB, but in fact pots have to be mounted on box separately.

I checked design for errors - of course in design only, not through build one.

By the way: Persians do not belong Arabian nations, they are only "brothers in religion" (mostly Shiites).

Hi WM6,
I understand now that the PCB that you posted was only for the limited information that you had.
But things are moving fast now.
We see another version that ma330 posted.
Let's look for errors to be certain that it is correct.

I have been working on a single PCB design that I want to be in a long and thin form to keep the audio amp and power circuits on one end of the board away from the coils.
But the other end that is close to the coils can have the RF section.
The idea is to make a pistol that is long and thin to reduce the bulk and keep the heavy metal parts away from the coils.
The battery, meter and control pots should be at the end away from the coils.
The resistors would be mounted vertical to keep the board space to a minimum.
Note - the hand-carved wooden handle will show pride in workmanship, and will make your PD a classic collector's item long after you have used it on many treasure hunting missions.

But after I see the PCBs that have been posted, I think you other members can do a better job than me.
So I leave it to you to make a single circuit board.

Thank you all for the help.
Best wishes,
J_P

[ma330]

Hi WM6,
I understand now that the PCB that you posted was only for the limited information that you had.
But things are moving fast now.
We see another version that ma330 posted.
Let's look for errors to be certain that it is correct.

I have been working on a single PCB design that I want to be in a long and thin form to keep the audio amp and power circuits on one end of the board away from the coils.
But the other end that is close to the coils can have the RF section.
The idea is to make a pistol that is long and thin to reduce the bulk and keep the heavy metal parts away from the coils.
The battery, meter and control pots should be at the end away from the coils.
Note - the hand-carved wooden handle will show pride in workmanship, and will make your PD a classic collector's item long after you have used it on many treasure hunting missions.

But after I see the PCBs that have been posted, I think you other members can do a better job than me.
So I leave it to you to make a single circuit board.

Thank you all for the help.
Best wishes,
J_P

new Version for j-p

[WM6]

new Version for j-p

Very well ma330, right thing. Congratulations.

Please post PCB in Black/White .JPG format (or .gif or other pic format) too, cause some of us have trouble with .lay format viewer.

[J_Player]

new Version for j-p

Thank you ma330

You guys are good.
You saved me a lot of time to make a good board.
It seems the project is almost complete.
What did we forget? Anything?
I could make up a parts list, and list some sources.
Maybe it is time to start building so we can test it and see what it does.

Congratulations to ma330 and WM6 for bringing us to the completion of this project.
I will wait awhile before I compile this project into a single file that can be downloaded.
It will be good to see if there are any more revisions or corrections to be made before we make it an official project.


Thank you for the help.
Let's see how it performs now.

Best wishes,
J_P

[ma330]

Very well ma330, right thing. Congratulations.

Please post PCB in Black/White .JPG format (or .gif or other pic format) too, cause some of us have trouble with .lay format viewer.

for wm6
The size pcb is 140 * 45mm
Put in the files of high quality and reliable printing for you
enjoy
good luck