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  • #16
    Hi Hung,

    Show us the inside of your version of Bionic 01. All calibrations according to its manual and Frank Casser are being followed accordingly.........

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    • #17
      Originally posted by oroboy View Post
      Hi Hung,

      Show us the inside of your version of Bionic 01.
      Ain't gonna happen. Gotta have someone else to blame, and if his looks just like yours, then there is no one else to blame.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by oroboy View Post
        Hi Hung,

        Show us the inside of your version of Bionic 01. All calibrations according to its manual and Frank Casser are being followed accordingly.........
        I own a Bionic X4 but... since it looks you are having trouble using your device and since this involves exclusively owners of Bionic series, I will try to reach you through private messaging soon as I am busy right now.
        "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by hung View Post
          I own a Bionic X4 but... since it looks you are having trouble using your device and since this involves exclusively owners of Bionic series, I will try to reach you through private messaging soon as I am busy right now.
          Translation: "Must go through the PM system, otherwise the floor polisher boys might learn something about our top secret LRL technology".

          Go on Hung, throw us a bone.

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          • #20
            Hello Hung,

            No worries, I will purchase the latest Bionic X4 and I will open it up for you. Maybe OKM installed the 3 axial flc sensor instead of using 4 flc 100 sensors. thus also eliminating the 3 forward antennas, which one of the four flc 100 sensor and jumper wires are enclosed. Making the aesthetics compact and modern......

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            • #21
              Originally posted by oroboy View Post
              Hello Hung,

              No worries, I will purchase the latest Bionic X4 and I will open it up for you. Maybe OKM installed the 3 axial flc sensor instead of using 4 flc 100 sensors. thus also eliminating the 3 forward antennas, which one of the four flc 100 sensor and jumper wires are enclosed. Making the aesthetics compact and modern......
              That's an expensive way to find out the truth. We're all looking forward to what you discover (everyone, except Hung, that is).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                You should also read "Paranormality - Why we believe the impossible" by Professor Richard Wiseman.
                http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paranormality-Why-we-believe-impossible/dp/1447208161
                Book Description

                'People are emotionally drawn to the supernatural. They actively want weird, spooky things to be true . . . Wiseman shows us a higher joy as he deftly skewers the paranormal charlatans, blows away the psychic fog and lets in the clear light of reason.' Richard Dawkins Professor Richard Wiseman is clear about one thing: paranormal phenomena don't exist. But in the same way that the science of space travel transforms our everyday lives, so research into telepathy, fortune-telling and out-of-body experiences produces remarkable insights into our brains, behaviour and beliefs. Paranormality embarks on a wild ghost chase into this new science of the supernatural and is packed with activities that allow you to experience the impossible. So throw away your crystals, ditch your lucky charms and cancel your subscription to Reincarnation Weekly. It is time to discover the real secrets of the paranormal. Learn how to control your dreams -- and leave your body behind Convince complete strangers that you know all about them Unleash the power of your unconscious mind
                ----------------------------------------------------------------

                Interesting but I have read already alot pro and contra PSI books, the same with religious stuff or other "hard to find the truth"-topics.



                To get effective changes in this world not just the single opinion of clever persons counts but also their impact on the society.

                We know that the folks all over the world are naive, religious, superstitious, manipulatable by political leaders and driven by their own wish thinking, pseudo-optimism and ignorance!

                The french enlightenment started already over 250 years ago and by the way even serious working scientists have been accused as misbelievers or heretics.

                Science is a complex field but for me it is not the question of "cutting edge science" or para-physics but the way to harden the theories, substanciate them, prove and repeat them by failproven experiments without error-sources or unknown factors and finally utilize the discoveries.

                If a person has already a living and enough food etc. he can use his whole free time in research, but most of the people have to work serious for their existence and science is luxury for them, especially science that has not the slightest advance for their personal life. Astronomy as example - costs astronomic high sums of money but the stupid tax-payers who have the fun to support the great intentions and plans of the scientists have no personal gain from this science, or just very little (nice entertainment of moon-landing etc.)

                And the military was especially interested in parapsychologic research, because that way it would got advantages in wars, in the area of intelligence and "silently" killing persons by the power of mind.

                The USA was afraid of the secret PSI research of Russia which also was reflected in movies like:

                The Fury ( 1978 ) Brian de Palma
                Firestarter ( 1981 ) Stephen King



                For LRL-detection also parapsychologic research could be interesting, to get a clear result if people have ESP powers or proven not! Pendulum or dowsing only can work on the basis of E.S.P. because the hands or arms can't look into the ground !!!!
                So if the parapsychologists find out that PSI with all its phenomena is just an illusion or a delusion of superstitous people it is clear that dowsing etc. can't work!



                We shouldn't make it too complicated here with para-sciences or theoretical-cutting-edge-sciences which doesn't bring us any personal benefit!

                We can try to find some info about "new real working technology" and how it applies to our needs in the field of LRL detection. Perhaps new radar-technology, new high-sensitive meters for all kind of ions, radiation, EM-fields or new discoveries about the time-space field and what interacts with it.

                But so far we have to deal with conventional e-technology and it is absolutly enough to find out if those already existing devices from OKM and Mineoro are working or not.


                And the presence plus reaction of hung here seems to me like a bad joke or like a religious fanatic in a group of atheists who demand a proof that god exists. Just the difference is, that it is no big deal to find out if those wannabe LRLs are working - hung just refuses any help in this task and insists on his believes instead of start to talk on a real, scientific or just logical basis with us!


                Life requires pragmatic solutions and results!!!
                Money doesn't grow on trees and the gods don't throw bread from the heavens!
                The freedom of religious believe is just ok until nobody gots disadvantages from such practics or delusions - often very bad effects occure because of naive believes and superstition up to human sacrifices or very cruel religious wars.

                We don't need stupid "believe" in the field of electronic LRL !!!
                Those are technical devices and technology has the reason to work useful!

                Persons like hung who refuses all kind of understandable technical argumentation must be seen as missionaries or even as evil rabble-rouser who have the only goal to contamine the worlds view of things or to work as promoter for those companies which wanna make the big money with their not working scam-crap! This is not acceptable for real working and reliable products needing treasure-hunters or electronic-experts who wanna improve this kind of "special-technology" up to a real working level!

                And the Bionic or Mineoro LRL stuff is not real working, we know this proven since many years - otherwise this forum would be full of happy, successful and proud OKM or Mineoro owners!

                hung and co. try to protect absolutly notworking products which steal many treasure-hunters 1000s of bucks out of their pockets!


                He may tell fantastic tales about treasure-finds on the Mineoro homepage but not here.

                Either hung you cooperate with us to find a way to make this Mineoro circuit stuff real workable and useful or if this isn't possible anyway stop your hide and seek game and finally admit that this stuff is worthless anyway in the field of LRL as it seems pretty clear now with those Bionic thingy - magnetometers are not good enough for LRL and we all know this. You can find ship-wrecks pretty good and deep with diving magnetometers but that has nothing to do with the fairy-tales OKM and Mineoro wanna tells us about their handholdable LRL-systems!

                We really need some serious scientific-methodical pressure here in this forum, otherwise our technical totally silent remaining and no good arguments having LRL believers will spread their nice looking and hope making stories here without end....

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                • #23
                  New toy

                  HI,

                  Just got a new toy to tinker, time to get my hands dirty again, any suggestions where to start opening this device????
                  Attached Files

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by oroboy View Post
                    Hello Hung,

                    No worries, I will purchase the latest Bionic X4 and I will open it up for you.
                    This is great news, thanks.
                    I have never had the intention to open mine but since you offered to buy one to do it, I will finally check if what I imagine in terms of components and configuration inside is confirmed or not. All forum will appreciate that. Can't wait.

                    Would you also consider buying an OKM Explorer 5000 to do the same thing?
                    I'd love to see its inner parts.
                    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                    • #25
                      Hi Hung,

                      I already Bought okm exp 5000 last year, sold it half its price, all I ever find was just hot rocks.. dug so many holes found nothing with it...

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                      • #26
                        Hi Oroboy.
                        Here you will see what you want from FG80
                        Discussions on LRLs of the electronic variety which also utilize L-rods or other swiveling methods.


                        Regards
                        Geo

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by oroboy View Post
                          Hi Hung,

                          I already Bought okm exp 5000 last year, sold it half its price, all I ever find was just hot rocks.. dug so many holes found nothing with it...
                          I worked before 3 years with one EXP5000. At first times i thought that it located some field tests with copper, but later understood that was some big hot rocks up the copper.
                          After it, i did not work again with it. One good that i saw is that it had the ability you to see exactly a digging place

                          Regards
                          Geo

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by hung View Post
                            I have never had the intention to open mine ...
                            From your post (quoted above) it appears that you've never looked inside a Bionic 01.
                            But you then go on to say:

                            Originally posted by hung View Post
                            ... but since you offered to buy one to do it, I will finally check if what I imagine in terms of components and configuration inside is confirmed or not.
                            Confirming that you do not in fact know how the internal sensors are arranged.

                            In which case, why did you previously say this? ->

                            Originally posted by hung View Post
                            Sorry to disappoint you but this is not Bionic 01.
                            Sensors in the real one are not set and arranged like that.
                            Do you have x-ray eyes?

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                            • #29
                              Some additional words about Bionic and PSI:

                              The word "Bionic" has its meaning from biology and technology - a combination of both.
                              It reminds me on professor Simon Wright, the floating brain in Captain Future (Captain America).

                              The OKM Bionic is only "electronic" (electro plus technology) and it uses the body of the person not in any biotec way but just as a conductor or as some antenna (reflector) and only the electro-magnetic value of such a human body counts, nothing biologic at all! Instead of the body a grounded and connected sack with saltwater would do the job the same "stupid" way.

                              Its the tricky method of many blenders and betrayers to give things or themselves shiny or fantastic names. If they would name it:

                              "Nonworking handhold-Magnetometer for idiots and dreamers"

                              even idiots and dreamers would think twice to buy it or not.

                              Naming things the wrong way is a method of manipulation and criminals use it often, like second identities to hide their true personal life.


                              And now some words about PSI aka Parapsychology:

                              The "scientific research" of supernatural phenomena started in the late 19th century - at a time the people couldn't distinct very good between real natural phenomena (like the new discovered electric forces and radio transmission waves) and superstitious faith.

                              All those religions and okkultists, faith-healers, astrologers and all kind of mediums and fortune-tellers made a "good" job to confuse the masses - often they just told them what they wanted to hear like life after death stuff, giving them hope to heal them, giving them psychological tips by showing up "what the future shall brings" mixed with assumptions etc.

                              In the early 20th century especially in Great Britain, the okkult szene was "in" and brought up "Hell Fire Clubs", the society of parapsychologic research and such extremists like Aleister Crowley and his antichristian revolting experiments (his parents have been extremly religious and it was no good for the mental health of the poor child). Besides England was traditional full of haunted castles since a long time. But also the rest of Europe was interested, Sir Schrenck Notzing in Munich made many PSI experiments in the early years of the 20th century with mediums and in the Nazi times of Germany there have been special secret okkult societies like the Thule-Order.

                              Some can say that the real! scientific PSI investigations have started in the 1950s in Russia and America at Universities or Military-facilities. Sometimes this was combinated with drugs - some scientists thought that drugs could be the way to strenghten or awaken paranormal abilities.

                              It seems that the more professional and based on scientific methods the researchers work, the less PSI-effects are recognizable.


                              To put it very simple:
                              If PSI or ESP really would exists, no Casinos would exists!

                              Or:
                              If PSI or ESP really exists, the police would have a much easier job.

                              Or:
                              If telekinetic powers really would exists, devices like computer-chips which can be influences by extremly low energy values, would blow all over the world.

                              Or:
                              If clairvoyant sight really would exist, god would have been detected and proven found since many years.

                              Or:
                              If killing or detecting from a far distance just by the power of mind would exists, the military wouldn't need the usual warfare methods or rewards of billions of dollars to find and "neutralize" most wanted persons.

                              Or:
                              If telepathy, ghosts and angels really would exists, we could talk with the "beyond world" like we can talk over smartphones with the other end of the (real!) world.



                              This list could go on and on.


                              Conclusion ......
                              PSI is an illusion!


                              Its only alive because some people have the need for this esoterical "life-help-crap" like little childs need someone to hold their hands while walking. Same with religions - we see how extreme those can manipulate the thoughts of persons or whole countries! - up to throwing away their own lifes or sacrifice it for the sake of their brainwashed religious community or manipulative leaders.

                              If people suffer from real food or meaning of life, at least they need mental food and hopegiving stories - so they have some (illusional!) hope for a better life after death. Many of them wouldn't accept their own letality anyway - thinking they are some kind of gods who live forever like Freddy Mercury sung. Even their already died pets and housedogs wait already in heaven for them - but only in their brain-castles in the sky.


                              The real improvements of life always have been grounded on real working technologies - not on fairy-tales.

                              Keep this in mind here in this all electronic forum - provide improvements of already working stuff or invent something new but real functioning or if you not like this, please go to some esoterical-circle and discuss with those fantasy-stories loving persons about aliens, time-travel, ghosts, treasure-detection by map-dowsing or other stuff that has nothing to do with the repeatable and proven working reality!


                              If you should refuse to follow my good advice I have to send you my special highenergetic psychokinetic black-magic-death-rays which may destroy the micro-controllers of your mainboard or the evil cells of your unscientifical and reality ignoring brain!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
                                If you should refuse to follow my good advice I have to send you my special highenergetic psychokinetic black-magic-death-rays which may destroy the micro-controllers of your mainboard or the evil cells of your unscientifical and reality ignoring brain!
                                Careful ... Hung might zap you with his x-ray eyes ... once he's finished examining the insides of the Bionic 01 without taking the cover off, and imagining what the sensor arrangement looks like.

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