For all engineers in electronics and designers of LRL's

[Nicolas]

Hi to all

For all electronic engineers and designers LRL. can someone explain how this type of devices work. (What what techonologie and phenomenon..!!)

Watching some videos here for an example. We notice the same thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY6Vx3-v5F0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHEvFuKVVSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqRzuGYAg4

Devices are turning to the left or to the right following the target and it is a little light, and that as Rods. but the most important how it turns when you're over the target exactly?!

They is equiped with a DC motor that rotates with the magnetic field of the earth? or with the magnetic field of the target buried or not buried?

Note: It takes one consederation that this type of device are electronic!! they are not rods. and they did change the polarity and left and right.

[WM6]

(What what techonologie and phenomenon..!!)

Technology used is SST (Scam Support Technology) and phenomenon shown is so called PS (Pure Scam) phenomenon.

[Nicolas]

Technology used is SST (Scam Support Technology) and phenomenon shown is so called PS (Pure Scam) phenomenon.

Thank dear WM6 for your opinion

Meanwhile more pricey dear WM6 answer .. so that we may confirm

so buyers of this SST. They found gold or silver buried?

further experience on target who knows in advance?


and look this trick substance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMWRf1JnI_s

maybe a rod do it like this good Rod's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwItUtNX1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No6gec4DNuE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-8c-DsI7xY

[Fred]

What WM6n means is that the only gold, silver and paper it can detect is the one you have in you pocket or bank account.

In that way it is a great LRL, but it only works for the seller of the device.





that it can detect is the

Thank dear WM6 for your opinion

Meanwhile more pricey dear WM6 answer .. so that we may confirm

so buyers of this SST. They found gold or silver buried?

further experience on target who knows in advance?


and look this trick substance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMWRf1JnI_s

maybe a rod do it like this good Rod's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwItUtNX1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No6gec4DNuE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-8c-DsI7xY

[Dell Winders]

Nicholas, Unfortunately, any argument that it is the electronics controlling the reaction of the device is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle.

People have been getting the same identical reactions with Non-Electronic LRL devices, (even a bent L-Rod) for as many years as I can remember. This swivel handle Rod reaction being demonstrated in the video's is nothing new.

The Swivel handle devices when hand held in a close to level position can easily be manipulated by very subtle movements of the hands, arms, or body, or even a sub-conscious Ideomotor controlled muscle response that is utilized in Mental Dowsing, or any slight body reflex which the operator may be totally unaware of can cause a swivel handle device, or bent L-Rod to rotate, spin, or stop.

Whether the devices actually work electronically, or not, the video demonstrations do nothing to prove this. Don't hope to get any positive feedback on a swivel handle LRL from any text book electronics experts here.

In my opinion, the advertising claims for Swivel handle LRL's with electronics attached should always be viewed with skepticism. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

For all electronic engineers and designers LRL. can someone explain how this type of devices work. (What what techonologie and phenomenon..!!)

These devices are dowsing rods in disguise.

They is equiped with a DC motor that rotates with the magnetic field of the earth? or with the magnetic field of the target buried or not buried?

There is no motor turning the device. The box is mounted on a freely swinging handle.

Note: It takes one consederation that this type of device are electronic!! they are not rods. and they did change the polarity and left and right.

They are rods. Believe it!

Nicholas, Unfortunately, any argument that it is the electronics controlling the reaction of the device is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle.

OMG - I'm being forced to agree with one of Dell's statements.
Amazing, but true.

In my opinion, the advertising claims for Swivel handle LRL's with electronics attached should always be viewed with skepticism. Dell

We'll make a skeptic out of you yet.

[Dell Winders]

Qiaozh, keep what I say in original context. I didn't say that electronic discrimination wasn't taking place or that the device was not reacting to the Field of the Target. Without testing, I wouldn't know. I am no good at guessing, and apparently you aren't either, even though you claim to be able to guess the location of buried objects, or Treasure, as accurate as I can by Dowsing

I haven't seen any factual evidence to support your "delusional Belief" that the devices demonstrated are "Dowsing Rods" in disguise. Show me some proof?

I was a skeptic long before you were born. I am still skeptical of things I don't understand. The difference is I don't have a delusioned ego to feed, so I can afford to be open minded and learn. Since I have been a rational open minded skeptic longer than you, it's all right for you to agree with me. It's not very flattering to have you agree with me but I don't deny your right to do so. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

I haven't seen any factual evidence to support your "delusional Belief" that the devices demonstrated are "Dowsing Rods" in disguise. Show me some proof?

In your own words -> "Unfortunately, any argument that it is the electronics controlling the reaction of the device is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle.

People have been getting the same identical reactions with Non-Electronic LRL devices, (even a bent L-Rod) for as many years as I can remember. This swivel handle Rod reaction being demonstrated in the video's is nothing new."

Hmmm ... it appears that you're saying it's a dowsing rod in disguise.
Perhaps you are also deluded?

[Nicolas]

Nicholas, Unfortunately, any argument that it is the electronics controlling the reaction of the device is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle.

People have been getting the same identical reactions with Non-Electronic LRL devices, (even a bent L-Rod) for as many years as I can remember. This swivel handle Rod reaction being demonstrated in the video's is nothing new.

The Swivel handle devices when hand held in a close to level position can easily be manipulated by very subtle movements of the hands, arms, or body, or even a sub-conscious Ideomotor controlled muscle response that is utilized in Mental Dowsing, or any slight body reflex which the operator may be totally unaware of can cause a swivel handle device, or bent L-Rod to rotate, spin, or stop.

Whether the devices actually work electronically, or not, the video demonstrations do nothing to prove this. Don't hope to get any positive feedback on a swivel handle LRL from any text book electronics experts here.

In my opinion, the advertising claims for Swivel handle LRL's with electronics attached should always be viewed with skepticism. Dell

Yes dear Dell I totally agree with what you say. I know all this bull**** it. but why they call LRL Electronics ? ? is a rod with a switch selection of Gold or silver substance. it means only one thing fraudster.

I work on electronic LRL long and never daring to use this truck rotated a box containing electronics .

I only use the indicator and rate monitor transmitter and receiver to locate the ions and electric charge or the magnetic fields produced by a buried in the earth for a good time at least 3-5 years object with reactor Chemical Type as acid , coal, sand and sea water and others

and I got a good result. using a receive frequency between 40 go to 60 KHZ
and a great find in a tomb depth 1.80 m and a distance of 600 m it is better now than a PD or a PDK using only telescopic antennas, inductors and capacitor to have a good impedance

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=143925&postcount=102

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18587&page=5

[Nicolas]

These devices are dowsing rods in disguise.



There is no motor turning the device. The box is mounted on a freely swinging handle.


They are rods. Believe it!


OMG - I'm being forced to agree with one of Dell's statements.
Amazing, but true.


We'll make a skeptic out of you yet.

Thanks Qiaozhi.I know it I have see the substance in Tierra Gold LRL and others models to say that this is an electronic and good price.

But I have think it's higtech and use the magnetic filield rotating. look here this Pcb

http://www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/downloads.htm#electric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_magnetic_field

Sorry for my english I use Translator

[folharin]

I bet everything I have. fixed place this unit hold 100 pounds of gold around her and it will not move

[Nicolas]

I bet everything I have. fixed place this unit hold 100 pounds of gold around her and it will not move

Yes Correct my dear. Put it on a rack. and see if it moves??

[Qiaozhi]

I bet everything I have. fixed place this unit hold 100 pounds of gold around her and it will not move

I agree. Your money is safe!
There is nothing high-tech about this device, and no chance that it will move on its own without the ideomotor effect, as it's just a dowsing rod with some electronics added to fool the technically challenged.

[Dell Winders]

In your own words -> "Unfortunately, any argument that it is the electronics controlling the reaction of the device is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle.

People have been getting the same identical reactions with Non-Electronic LRL devices, (even a bent L-Rod) for as many years as I can remember. This swivel handle Rod reaction being demonstrated in the video's is nothing new."

Hmmm ... it appears that you're saying it's a dowsing rod in disguise.
Perhaps you are also deluded?

Qiaozhi, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

In my own words I said " ANY ARGUMENT" is defeated because the electronics are mounted on a swivel handle. Meaning, that when the device is held level, it's difficult for an untrained observer (like yourself) to determine if the device was attracted to the Magnetic field surrounding the target to cause the reaction, or--- if the reaction was caused by subtle body motions of the operator?

I never said the device was Dowsing, or that it was not working electronically. Such speculation without personally testing the device would be speaking dis-honestly in ignorance and stupidity. If you don't think all three apply to your knowledge of LRL's, then pick at least one and you will be correct. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

..... when the device is held level, it's difficult for an untrained observer (like yourself) to determine if the device was attracted to the Magnetic field surrounding the target to cause the reaction, or--- if the reaction was caused by subtle body motions of the operator?

Since it's impossible for the device to be attracted to anything except gravity, then your statement above is total nonsense.

I never said the device was Dowsing, or that it was not working electronically.

You didn't need to, If it's mounted on a swinging handle, then it's a dowsing rod. Pure and simple. End of story.